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To be shocked the amount of people on antidepressants?

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Hotfuninthesummertime · 12/06/2023 16:14

I know I'm unreasonable as I've been on them for years. However i work in a very close team and am aware of 10 out of 15 of us being on anti depressants for various reasons or life stressor. I was shocked so many people are being treated but it's so common! Is it more recognised now ? Or overtreated ?

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Simonlebonbon · 12/06/2023 17:47

I've been on them since childhood and without them I'm just a mess, but it's madness to me when friends/colleagues go the GP feeling stressed out need a week off work or counselling and come out with a fuck ton of sertaline and diazempam, it's the first port of call and I'm very pro antidepressants, just not because you need a break, iyswim

angelicaelizapeggy · 12/06/2023 17:52

In my area other forms of help are quite difficult to get… CBT and talking therapies etc.

I first went on them when I was struggling after a traumatic birth. I was treated as though there was something ‘wrong’ with how I was feeling and my mental state, in hindsight I was suffering a perfectly rational and expected reaction to what I’d been put through during childbirth. Some sort of therapy to try and unpack all of that would have probably been more effective. Or better yet if the maternity system was different in the first place and I hadn’t experienced perfectly avoidable trauma like so many other women.

callingeveryone · 12/06/2023 17:54

Maverickess · 12/06/2023 17:38

I was on & off ADs for years, until my mid 30's. I figured I always would be.
I didn't have a great childhood and teen years and then a failed relationship that ended with me being a single parent, working ft nights and struggling financially.
I had a breakdown, was diagnosed with post natal depression and more ADs and a hospital stay.
I had an abusive relationship in my mid 30's after being off them for a few years and went off to the Dr's to ask for more when I was struggling again.
This Dr isn't famed locally for her bedside manner, but she said she didn't think I needed them, that the way I felt after what I'd been through was totally normal and ADs would numb it, and what I needed was to deal with it, and then move on, and that if I got 'stuck' then ADs would be appropriate and referred me for therapy, and signed me off from work for a couple of weeks - I could only do that because I was living with my mum at the time, I'd never really been able to 'stop' like that and deal with things.

I haven't taken them since because although I was really worried about not having them, I think she was right, and I'm grateful that she didn't just give me a prescription and send me on my way.

I think they're used as a quick fix for a lot of the situations that we find ourselves in - mainly so that we can continue to function on some level and earn money, look after families etc instead of being able to deal with that situation effectively.

I totally agree with you and I am glad that Dr was so helpful for you.

SparklingMarkling · 12/06/2023 17:56

Yep. Seriously so many people on them. Most probably down to the “mental illness is like a broken leg, your brain is broken rhetoric”, which is of course nonsense.

I am a clin psych and my particular service went very quiet during covid. Many people had better outcomes with their mental health during a time when life’s pressures eased. (Not for all of course, but for many). I would only ever take them if I had a serious tragedy in my life but they would absolutely be the last resort.

Zebedee55 · 12/06/2023 18:06

I think, sometimes, whatever the tragedy, you do have to just deal with it. Every day, I miss my DH, I have meltdowns, I grieve, but I know that I've got to deal with it.

'Mind numb-ers" won't help, I've got to find a way.

Not everything is helping by suppressing the feelings.

JamSandle · 12/06/2023 18:07

Zebedee55 · 12/06/2023 18:06

I think, sometimes, whatever the tragedy, you do have to just deal with it. Every day, I miss my DH, I have meltdowns, I grieve, but I know that I've got to deal with it.

'Mind numb-ers" won't help, I've got to find a way.

Not everything is helping by suppressing the feelings.

Antidepressants don't numb emotions.

JamSandle · 12/06/2023 18:08

Agree with everyone saying we aren't given time to process big life things. That's often where many other things come in to help us cope.

SparklingMarkling · 12/06/2023 18:09

@JamSandle

It is a known side effect. Even at low doses they can numb you.

Kingdedede · 12/06/2023 18:10

JamSandle · 12/06/2023 18:07

Antidepressants don't numb emotions.

That’s how my friend describes them.

SparklingMarkling · 12/06/2023 18:10

@Zebedee55

Wishing you well. I agree with what you’ve said so far. I hope you find the joy again soon, or in fleeting moments. I am certain you will. 💐

Betsybee88 · 12/06/2023 18:10

I take a ssri, I have taken them previously but short term (around 4 months) twice before.
This time around is different as I had severe untreated depression and anxiety for 3 years before reaching out thinking I was equipped to battle it alone but I would of never of been able to speak to a therapist without the aid of my ssri. I will say they have enabled myself to drag myself out of a very very dark and bleak mental space.
I am well aware that my recovery is 50% the tablet and 50% me chipping away at old thought patterns ect and I have had in-depth conversations with mental health professions about this. That said, I cannot see me not needing them anytime in the near future.
I think I'm in this for the long haul.
It depends on the GP on whether they seem the patient to be depressed enough, I know some people are directed straight to talking therapies etc. So I suspect it's a bit of a post code lottery.

10HailMarys · 12/06/2023 18:12

Hotfuninthesummertime · 12/06/2023 16:18

I've been on them since I've been 19. Without them I'm horrendous. I came off them for 2 years to ttc and it was awful.

So why do you think depression might be over-diagnosed? Why would your colleagues’ mental health problems be any less genuine than yours?

Fredella · 12/06/2023 18:12

They are often used for chronic pain and some anti-depressants are currently the goto drugs for treating Long Covid. Also depression to some degree is a common secondary effect of other chronic illnesses. Drs are very willing to offer anti-depressant if they can't offer any meaningful treatment.

Zebedee55 · 12/06/2023 18:13

SparklingMarkling · 12/06/2023 18:10

@Zebedee55

Wishing you well. I agree with what you’ve said so far. I hope you find the joy again soon, or in fleeting moments. I am certain you will. 💐

Thank you. I'm trying to find my mojo again, but it takes time and it doesn't need anti-Ds.😉

LadyH846 · 12/06/2023 18:14

Yes, we're over-treated. I recently read Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whitaker and it was eye-opening.

They can a real bitch to come off, too. I came off an antidepressant last year and had months of debilitating withdrawal symptoms. People don't think about this when they go on them. The drug I was on was too sedating and it was affecting my work and business by making me unproductive. I started making a lot more money once I came off it.

HarpyValley · 12/06/2023 18:19

JamSandle · 12/06/2023 18:07

Antidepressants don't numb emotions.

I beg to differ. My experience of being prescribed Sertraline for a few months was that they very much did. I didn’t feel despair or completely overwhelmed at having to make the simplest decision any more, but I didn’t really feel anything. Everything - positive emotion as well as negative - felt at one remove, in a way that it didn’t before or after I was on the a-ds.

Champagneforeveryone · 12/06/2023 18:20

DH has finally sought help after many years (we've been together 18 years and it's more far reaching than that) and was offered AD's before seeing the GP face to face or even having standard blood tests run.

FWIW I completely believe he needs them, but I was shocked at the casual ease they were offered. He's recently upped the dose and I expected some challenge (however mild) from the GP, but he didn't bat an eyelid before agreeing.

bonfirebash · 12/06/2023 18:20

I don't find they numb me
2 of my pets died while I've been on them and I've definitely felt grief, and love and happiness
For me they stop me having panic attacks, and I don't want to die because I'm so ugly/worthless any more
I've been on and off them since I was 16

Zebedee55 · 12/06/2023 18:23

HarpyValley · 12/06/2023 18:19

I beg to differ. My experience of being prescribed Sertraline for a few months was that they very much did. I didn’t feel despair or completely overwhelmed at having to make the simplest decision any more, but I didn’t really feel anything. Everything - positive emotion as well as negative - felt at one remove, in a way that it didn’t before or after I was on the a-ds.

Yeah, I've known friends on them. All their emotions were suppressed. Not good really.

Some people really need them - but many don't. It's just become an easy option for sone GPs.

The problems start when people wish to come off of them.

thecatsthecats · 12/06/2023 18:33

pollykitty · 12/06/2023 16:19

I think it's both. Mental health problems are very common and SSRIs are prescribed for everything. There needs to be more research on the long-term effects. I was prescribed a low-dose SSRI for anxiety for a year. It did help, but I gained a ton of weight and struggled to sleep (I had vivid horrible nightmares). Stopping taking it was hell. I'm glad I did though. I think in today's world people are stressed out and sick of feeling like garbage. The easy solution for doctors is to handover an anti-depressant med.

I was prescribed SSRIs for migraines, and didn't get on with them at all. As I wasn't depressed or anxious, I disliked the giddy feeling they gave me, and they didn't seem to help with migraines anyway. Had no guidance whatsoever about coming off them. It was hellish.

Then I was put on escitalopram for a period of acute anxiety and stress, and was very carefully taken through the tapering for coming off them, which was still hideous.

It's very disturbing that they're chucked at patients like sweeties without going into the side effects.

slithytoveisascientist · 12/06/2023 18:46

@JamSandle

Antidepressants don't numb emotions.

They did for me, both good and bad emotions. I was like a robot. That was on sertraline.

SeanDanielorBalonz · 12/06/2023 18:49

Yes, I agree it's quite shocking how many people have been prescribed them. Surely we should be trying to address the systemic problems causing our stress and depression-inducing society...but that would be complex and wouldn't make as much money for pharma, so we probably won't bother.

Oblomov23 · 12/06/2023 18:54

I think they are very over-prescribed. Cheap option rather than dealing with the core problems.

Snowpaw · 12/06/2023 19:16

I was prescribed them once after I had some low mood when DD was about 1 and a half. I picked up the prescription, but then also had some phone counselling and the counsellor suggested going for a walk every evening. I started doing that, lost 20lbs and felt so much better and never ended up taking the tablets. Sometimes all someone needs is a little nudge in the right direction from a kind, empathetic person to get the ball rolling. I never forget that kind lady and if I ever get low these days I start up the walks again.

WantToBeHappyAndHealthy · 12/06/2023 19:29

Because its easier, cheaper, and less of an inconvenience for doctors to just chuck pills at someone rather than invest time in that person and find the root cause of their problem and how to help them.

Because mental health services in this country are over-subscribed, an abomination and, frankly, unfit for purpose.

Life is more chaotic, busy and stressful, and people need something to help them cope. In the UK, minimum wage is not enough to live on, and people need to work every hour they can to make ends meet. Thus having very little time to rest.

A lot of young people think they have failed in life because they don't have a six-figure salary, the body of a model, a perfect family by 25, etc, thanks to social media.

Just a few reasons I can think of.

Been on antidepressants for 10 years.

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