To believe in forced castration?

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Sorry if this has been done before, but AIBU to think forced castration should be in place for paedophiles and people of child bearing age who have been convicted of any form of child abuse?

I get people have bodily autonomy; but the protection of children surely comes first?!

Just read the thread where a couple have already lost one child to care, are neglectful to another (disturbed) child, with social services intervention, and now pregnant with another.

I also have a family member who has 6 children with different inappropriate fathers, in and out of prison, social services involvement and criminal convictions. Providing a shit childhood for multiple innocent children who will be affected for life.

Why are we so again castration as a mechanism to stop further reproduction in damaging environments?

In many cases, people with prior child abuse convictions just have subsequent babies immediately removed. What's the point? Just stop them being able to have kids and the problems sorted?

Oh yeah, i just love them to bits, considering i was abandoned at birth, abused in my way by my adoptive family, and I have a few sexual assaults (as a child and teen) under my belt. I just love them to bits.

We convict people based on them being guilty "beyond all reasonable doubt" Not "beyond ALL doubt". And occasionally people are wrongly convicted. But that doesn't mean nobody should be jailed just in case there has been a miscarriage of justice.

ed. But that doesn't mean nobody should be jailed just in case there has been a miscarriage of justice.
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Not sure what the answer is but
To the guy that was wrongly accused
And once the girl admitted it was a lie and the year he served and the 'apology letter ...was I could go on ...
And poor old Stephan and his mum
And the girls who lied
Oh wait ....

Yes but there's always the possibility to fix that to some extent. Appeals,new evidence or witness statements etc. Castration/death are final.

You are being deliberately obtuse now. Nobody has argued that people convicted of crimes shouldn't be jailed where that is appropriate. They have said they shouldn't be tortured, mained or killed, because those are things you can't correct when you find out that you were wrong. Being jailed wrongly is awful enough.

You can't give people the time back they spent in prison.

And at the end of the day, it's what works best for society as a whole that matters, not individual sob stories. By removing serious criminals from the breeding pool, you prevent a lot of crime 20-25 years down the line.

I don't trust our society enough to support any of that (capital penalty, forced sterilisation).
Introducing it into the law would be the big step. It would get a lots of attention, require a change on big important laws.

Even if there would be very well formulated regulations around it, sooner or later someone would ammend it. Do some small change. And those subsequent changes would go through much less thorough process, as it would be just a minor technicality, the big law would be already in place.

And those small amendments can create something dangerous. Sterilisation of poor? At some age? People with more children than they can provide for on expected middle class level?

No you can’t give people time back but they still have their lives/balls

I am part of society and I don’t think it’s best at all.

Would you be happy to be sterilised tomorrow on someone else's say so?

What works best for society is not allowing that line to be crossed. Ever

No government should have that power over someone else's body because it never ends there.

No but I wouldn't be happy to be sent to prison tomorrow either.

Not sure on the effectiveness of prevention of attacks but preventing them from reproducing would be a start imo

I would fully support castration pedophiles.
Castration would be better than sterilisation so no further children are harmed,.
Having this in place would probably result in less abuse of children too, currently the punishment does not fit in the crime in most if not all cases.

Let's not start hacking off people's hands again for stealing a loaf of bread, but absolutely would support this.

@Beatrixpottersdog
It's been established in many , many , many, pp, that this.would. Not . Work.

I haven't read the thread.
However unless they've been experimenting on pedophiles they've established nothing. It is their opinion it wouldn't work.

@Beatrixpottersdog except castration for sex offenders has been used before. It's not a new and original thing.

Sorry if this has been done before, but AIBU to think forced castration should be in place for paedophiles and people of child bearing age who have been convicted of any form of child abuse?

Bit hard to sew it back on if the person is later exonerated, mind.

@Beatrixpottersdog

I haven't read the thread.
However unless they've been experimenting on pedophiles they've established nothing. It is their opinion it wouldn't work.
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I would suggest that you do then
There has been some very candid and eloquent about this.
Even one from a victim

neah, never said that's what I want. I wondered how it would be as an interesting dystopian story. And if a society organised itself that way, would children actually turn out happier. Where people had to apply & earn right to become parents, not have fertility as a near-universal biological right. Would people go off & spread lots of STIs ?

Fiction, you know, it's a fiction idea.

Really? Who are they?

Name names

OP you're an idiot. The Nazis forcibly sterilised the Roma.

Go away. Just go away - you utterly vile despicable clueless fool

You have nothing of any substance to contribute to this.

All for it.

"The Nazis sterilised the Roma."
The bad thing about this was that they sterilised people based on ethnicity.

It's like saying "The British police shot an armed criminal". "The Nazis shot Jewish people." Therefore British police should not shoot anyone. Because although they might only be shooting criminals today, it's the start of a slippery slope that could lead to them shooting people for being Travellers in the future.

Bless, you're looking for a nice, neat, simple solution. To what is a very complex and difficult area. Are you familiar with the chemical castration that was inflicted on Alan Turing? A gay man who helped to end WWII and also initiate computer technology?

Sincerely, a survivor of CSA who can't fucking stand people like you who want to put it all in neat little boxes that suit your narrow views and experience. I'm also a cis woman, who supports trans people, as should you. If we leave one behind, we leave everyone behind.