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Is a self catering holiday still a holiday?

166 replies

bagpuss90 · 06/06/2023 13:40

Very light hearted thread. I’m just curious as to opinions on this. So I was chatting to a friend last nite and I mentioned I was off on holiday next week to a self catering cottage . She said she would rather not go on holiday than go self catering because it’s not a holiday . Personally I think that’s nuts . I love the flexibility it gives. We will eat out a good bit . I’m not at work , I’m in a beautiful place away with my family . How is that not a holiday ?

OP posts:
MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 06/06/2023 14:08

Some people are very narrow minded, of course it's a holiday 🙄

Have a lovely time 😊

Scalottia · 06/06/2023 14:09

MoreMeltingThanMoments · 06/06/2023 13:56

Well ...

It takes ages to find anywhere because you’ve left it so late and then your husband bravely says… ‘As it’s only for 4 days in the UK, there won’t be much stuff to take will there?’

WHAT??

Doesn’t he realise that everyone always packs for 4 days, regardless of how long they’re away for? You also have to ‘pack up the house,’ find someone kind enough to feed the cat as well as fish number 2s out of the litter tray AND you won’t sleep a single wink unless you take your own pillow.

So there you are, finally whizzing up the motorway at 11 miles per hour. A combination of road works and an accident ‘somewhere in Cheshire’ and, instead of arriving in time for a whole evening at ‘the holiday place’, you’re making beds at 10pm with children behaving like baboons and you can’t find a socket to charge up your phone. Then you spot one – well not one exactly but one and a half. The other half is obscured behind the radiator…surely there must be another one?

Er…nope.

Luckily you’re wise to this sort of trick and have brought an extension ‘dooda.’ What you hadn’t catered for however, was this socket being wedged between the wall and the far side of the bed, so drying your hair is simply impossible. No worries, there’s no point drying it anyway because the weather’s so awful. Your hair blows sideways right across your eyes every time you set foot out of the front door. In fact the wind and rain have done such weird things to it that you now look like a water buffalo.

This hasn’t gone unnoticed by either your husband or the kids.

You’re secretly ploughing your way through the fizzy bubblegum bottles you’ve stashed behind the kettle when ‘Tesco’ arrives. A rather cheery youth asks you how long you’re staying for because he’s never seen such a large order in all his life. You suddenly realise he’s right and what the hell are you going to do with it all?? The wine can’t possibly be a problem but all these onions? Did you really order 6 bags of 8 onions…?

You look around and realise there isn’t actually anywhere to put any food. You shove it anywhere you can…under the table, behind the sofa, in the wellies…and start cooking.

Family of five. Spag Bol. You pull out the two largest pans in the cupboard. The bigger of the two is just right to cook spaghetti for TWO people and the smaller of the two would be perfect for heating up a tin of ambrosia creamed rice (if you had one and wanted to eat it).

Emergency text to ‘David’ who owns the cottage about a) the pan thing and b) the dead-as-a-dodo DVD player.

Next thing you know, a very lovely man in a high viz jacket is pushing his way through the buffeting gales to your front door, with a couple of enormo old fashioned pressure cookers and a SCART lead. You don’t like to mention the wifi is down too and vow instead to spend quality time talking to your beloved and your children.

By Day Two you find yourself hanging out of the front bedroom window ‘just to see if it’s working’. It’s not quite enough to check Facebook or Twitter but it’s enough to receive an email from Tesco to say they’re coming again tomorrow at great expense, with an order containing just 3 items that you completely forgot to cancel three days ago. You have 6 hours until the cut off time for amendments but you can’t connect long enough to cancel the order. At least you won’t have to put up with that ‘this is the largest order I’ve ever seen remark’ again. Instead you get a cheery ‘oh don’t worry, this isn’t the smallest one I’ve had, do you need help carrying it inside?’

You go to a theme park and just as you’re unloading the youngest from the car, you notice a distinct smell burning rubber and two large screws sticking out of one of your tyres. Your husband goes off to sort it out leaving you and the three kids (one in the middle of potty training and without enough spare clothes as it turns out) to the joys of the theme park. He returns several hours later with a boot full of wheel. No replacements available before the trip home he says. So now you have nowhere to put your luggage, you’re not allowed to drive home faster than 50mph on the spare and you husband states it will be impossible to put your beloved pillow anywhere other than directly underneath this wheel on the way home.

When you get back to the cottage you realise you completely forgot to order beans and chilli for the chilli, and your youngest has drawn all over their sofa. Thankfully he’s only drawn on the removable arm covers (your view of these has now completely changed). You put them in the wash and minutes later, the kids are prancing about with the other arm covers on their heads, looking like Darth Vader.

‘Can we have ice-cream for pudding?’ asks the 6 year old hopefully. No you can’t – mainly because the ice compartment of the fridge/freezer is no bigger than an envelope, so even if I’d remembered to add some to the Tescos order we’d have had to finish it all at 9:36am when it was delivered.
Finally it’s bath time for the kids and with a glass of wine in one hand you realise you’ve got in a total muddle with the ‘linen pack’ and you’re drying the youngest with a bath mat…

Despite all this though, the kids have an absolute blast, you manage one lie-in, ‘a couple’ of bottles of wine and see an alpaca…

So I’m not sure 😃

Wtf did I just read?

OP it depends on the situation, I like both. I am not really a fan of massive AI family hotels, but equally I enjoy not having to think of what/where to eat etc.

I like small, cozy hotels where you can either eat there or find a local restaurant (in places like Italy or Greece it's been quite easy so far as long as you avoid tourist trap restaurants).

DasAlteLeid · 06/06/2023 14:11

MoreMeltingThanMoments · 06/06/2023 13:56

Well ...

It takes ages to find anywhere because you’ve left it so late and then your husband bravely says… ‘As it’s only for 4 days in the UK, there won’t be much stuff to take will there?’

WHAT??

Doesn’t he realise that everyone always packs for 4 days, regardless of how long they’re away for? You also have to ‘pack up the house,’ find someone kind enough to feed the cat as well as fish number 2s out of the litter tray AND you won’t sleep a single wink unless you take your own pillow.

So there you are, finally whizzing up the motorway at 11 miles per hour. A combination of road works and an accident ‘somewhere in Cheshire’ and, instead of arriving in time for a whole evening at ‘the holiday place’, you’re making beds at 10pm with children behaving like baboons and you can’t find a socket to charge up your phone. Then you spot one – well not one exactly but one and a half. The other half is obscured behind the radiator…surely there must be another one?

Er…nope.

Luckily you’re wise to this sort of trick and have brought an extension ‘dooda.’ What you hadn’t catered for however, was this socket being wedged between the wall and the far side of the bed, so drying your hair is simply impossible. No worries, there’s no point drying it anyway because the weather’s so awful. Your hair blows sideways right across your eyes every time you set foot out of the front door. In fact the wind and rain have done such weird things to it that you now look like a water buffalo.

This hasn’t gone unnoticed by either your husband or the kids.

You’re secretly ploughing your way through the fizzy bubblegum bottles you’ve stashed behind the kettle when ‘Tesco’ arrives. A rather cheery youth asks you how long you’re staying for because he’s never seen such a large order in all his life. You suddenly realise he’s right and what the hell are you going to do with it all?? The wine can’t possibly be a problem but all these onions? Did you really order 6 bags of 8 onions…?

You look around and realise there isn’t actually anywhere to put any food. You shove it anywhere you can…under the table, behind the sofa, in the wellies…and start cooking.

Family of five. Spag Bol. You pull out the two largest pans in the cupboard. The bigger of the two is just right to cook spaghetti for TWO people and the smaller of the two would be perfect for heating up a tin of ambrosia creamed rice (if you had one and wanted to eat it).

Emergency text to ‘David’ who owns the cottage about a) the pan thing and b) the dead-as-a-dodo DVD player.

Next thing you know, a very lovely man in a high viz jacket is pushing his way through the buffeting gales to your front door, with a couple of enormo old fashioned pressure cookers and a SCART lead. You don’t like to mention the wifi is down too and vow instead to spend quality time talking to your beloved and your children.

By Day Two you find yourself hanging out of the front bedroom window ‘just to see if it’s working’. It’s not quite enough to check Facebook or Twitter but it’s enough to receive an email from Tesco to say they’re coming again tomorrow at great expense, with an order containing just 3 items that you completely forgot to cancel three days ago. You have 6 hours until the cut off time for amendments but you can’t connect long enough to cancel the order. At least you won’t have to put up with that ‘this is the largest order I’ve ever seen remark’ again. Instead you get a cheery ‘oh don’t worry, this isn’t the smallest one I’ve had, do you need help carrying it inside?’

You go to a theme park and just as you’re unloading the youngest from the car, you notice a distinct smell burning rubber and two large screws sticking out of one of your tyres. Your husband goes off to sort it out leaving you and the three kids (one in the middle of potty training and without enough spare clothes as it turns out) to the joys of the theme park. He returns several hours later with a boot full of wheel. No replacements available before the trip home he says. So now you have nowhere to put your luggage, you’re not allowed to drive home faster than 50mph on the spare and you husband states it will be impossible to put your beloved pillow anywhere other than directly underneath this wheel on the way home.

When you get back to the cottage you realise you completely forgot to order beans and chilli for the chilli, and your youngest has drawn all over their sofa. Thankfully he’s only drawn on the removable arm covers (your view of these has now completely changed). You put them in the wash and minutes later, the kids are prancing about with the other arm covers on their heads, looking like Darth Vader.

‘Can we have ice-cream for pudding?’ asks the 6 year old hopefully. No you can’t – mainly because the ice compartment of the fridge/freezer is no bigger than an envelope, so even if I’d remembered to add some to the Tescos order we’d have had to finish it all at 9:36am when it was delivered.
Finally it’s bath time for the kids and with a glass of wine in one hand you realise you’ve got in a total muddle with the ‘linen pack’ and you’re drying the youngest with a bath mat…

Despite all this though, the kids have an absolute blast, you manage one lie-in, ‘a couple’ of bottles of wine and see an alpaca…

So I’m not sure 😃

That’s pretty much my favourite post ever on MN 🤣

CC4712 · 06/06/2023 14:14

ChessieFL · 06/06/2023 13:50

Well if she’s thinking about cooking/preparing 3 proper meals a day then she’s right, that’s not a holiday. But if it’s like most people do and eat out most days so it’s only breakfasts/snack meals in the accommodation then that’s a great holiday!

Exactly what I was going to say too.

hugefanofcheese · 06/06/2023 14:15

Bollocks. I love an unfamiliar market/ supermarket (see username). Makes my holiday. She does know you don't have to make a spread worthy of Henry VIII every night? I get bored of all inclusive food offerings too and prefer to see what's available in town.

OfficerPastiche · 06/06/2023 14:17

MoreMeltingThanMoments · 06/06/2023 13:56

Well ...

It takes ages to find anywhere because you’ve left it so late and then your husband bravely says… ‘As it’s only for 4 days in the UK, there won’t be much stuff to take will there?’

WHAT??

Doesn’t he realise that everyone always packs for 4 days, regardless of how long they’re away for? You also have to ‘pack up the house,’ find someone kind enough to feed the cat as well as fish number 2s out of the litter tray AND you won’t sleep a single wink unless you take your own pillow.

So there you are, finally whizzing up the motorway at 11 miles per hour. A combination of road works and an accident ‘somewhere in Cheshire’ and, instead of arriving in time for a whole evening at ‘the holiday place’, you’re making beds at 10pm with children behaving like baboons and you can’t find a socket to charge up your phone. Then you spot one – well not one exactly but one and a half. The other half is obscured behind the radiator…surely there must be another one?

Er…nope.

Luckily you’re wise to this sort of trick and have brought an extension ‘dooda.’ What you hadn’t catered for however, was this socket being wedged between the wall and the far side of the bed, so drying your hair is simply impossible. No worries, there’s no point drying it anyway because the weather’s so awful. Your hair blows sideways right across your eyes every time you set foot out of the front door. In fact the wind and rain have done such weird things to it that you now look like a water buffalo.

This hasn’t gone unnoticed by either your husband or the kids.

You’re secretly ploughing your way through the fizzy bubblegum bottles you’ve stashed behind the kettle when ‘Tesco’ arrives. A rather cheery youth asks you how long you’re staying for because he’s never seen such a large order in all his life. You suddenly realise he’s right and what the hell are you going to do with it all?? The wine can’t possibly be a problem but all these onions? Did you really order 6 bags of 8 onions…?

You look around and realise there isn’t actually anywhere to put any food. You shove it anywhere you can…under the table, behind the sofa, in the wellies…and start cooking.

Family of five. Spag Bol. You pull out the two largest pans in the cupboard. The bigger of the two is just right to cook spaghetti for TWO people and the smaller of the two would be perfect for heating up a tin of ambrosia creamed rice (if you had one and wanted to eat it).

Emergency text to ‘David’ who owns the cottage about a) the pan thing and b) the dead-as-a-dodo DVD player.

Next thing you know, a very lovely man in a high viz jacket is pushing his way through the buffeting gales to your front door, with a couple of enormo old fashioned pressure cookers and a SCART lead. You don’t like to mention the wifi is down too and vow instead to spend quality time talking to your beloved and your children.

By Day Two you find yourself hanging out of the front bedroom window ‘just to see if it’s working’. It’s not quite enough to check Facebook or Twitter but it’s enough to receive an email from Tesco to say they’re coming again tomorrow at great expense, with an order containing just 3 items that you completely forgot to cancel three days ago. You have 6 hours until the cut off time for amendments but you can’t connect long enough to cancel the order. At least you won’t have to put up with that ‘this is the largest order I’ve ever seen remark’ again. Instead you get a cheery ‘oh don’t worry, this isn’t the smallest one I’ve had, do you need help carrying it inside?’

You go to a theme park and just as you’re unloading the youngest from the car, you notice a distinct smell burning rubber and two large screws sticking out of one of your tyres. Your husband goes off to sort it out leaving you and the three kids (one in the middle of potty training and without enough spare clothes as it turns out) to the joys of the theme park. He returns several hours later with a boot full of wheel. No replacements available before the trip home he says. So now you have nowhere to put your luggage, you’re not allowed to drive home faster than 50mph on the spare and you husband states it will be impossible to put your beloved pillow anywhere other than directly underneath this wheel on the way home.

When you get back to the cottage you realise you completely forgot to order beans and chilli for the chilli, and your youngest has drawn all over their sofa. Thankfully he’s only drawn on the removable arm covers (your view of these has now completely changed). You put them in the wash and minutes later, the kids are prancing about with the other arm covers on their heads, looking like Darth Vader.

‘Can we have ice-cream for pudding?’ asks the 6 year old hopefully. No you can’t – mainly because the ice compartment of the fridge/freezer is no bigger than an envelope, so even if I’d remembered to add some to the Tescos order we’d have had to finish it all at 9:36am when it was delivered.
Finally it’s bath time for the kids and with a glass of wine in one hand you realise you’ve got in a total muddle with the ‘linen pack’ and you’re drying the youngest with a bath mat…

Despite all this though, the kids have an absolute blast, you manage one lie-in, ‘a couple’ of bottles of wine and see an alpaca…

So I’m not sure 😃

I hope you're a professional writer because that's marvellous! Your talent should be shared with the world

Clymene · 06/06/2023 14:17

We only ever go self catering as I have a child with ASD. I love browsing supermarkets and food markets though and enjoy cooking so it's really not an issue.

JustMarriedBecca · 06/06/2023 14:18

Love that long post too 🤣

Self catering fans here. With a bit of camping every so often.

Can't stand hotels. Other people in close proximity. No thanks. I don't like eating out either. Really lovely restaurants cost a fortune and a local gastro pub is always ok but I get cross paying £30 plus drinks for a steak I can cook for less than a tenner self catering. It's OK to eat out once or twice a week.

I'd rather have 6 less expensive holidays than one massive blow out though but that's just me.

Regholdsworthswaterbed · 06/06/2023 14:21

I've never been on a non self catering holiday, though choice not due to lack of money. I did look at all inclusive this year but I don't want to be restricted to the hotel. We will probably make breakfast but will eat out most of the time

Appleofmyeye2023 · 06/06/2023 14:21

I personally love the idea of having “my own space” in a holiday home
but the reality is far form positive
with kids you’re just doing everything you’d have to do at home, but in a strange house, with strange equipment, with strange location that you’ve got to figure out where to buy food etc. cooking in a strange kitchen with strange equipment is NOT relaxing or a holiday. Nor is having kids that normally have a room each, squashed together, playing till all hours and being hyped up in a shared room particularly helpful to having quiet romantic evenings with a DP

THEN,it’s the “Dp”, and his attitude. If lime my ex you’ve got a “I’m on holiday” version, then they’ll do less than they normally do thinking the magic fairies will do all the domestic grind and thinking for next 2 weeks. They take the “laid back” approach that comes with apparently putting shorts on and some sun cream, and will have no sense of urgency, forward planning or , let’s face it, thinking at all. Then they have the audacity to state that you are “getting too wound up” , “you need to relax”, “stop being jaggy” “just relax” because they really do think that the magic Elves are helping.

if it’s a holiday cottage by myself, somewhere I wanted to go, then yep, please, bring it on…but NOT with the rest of a family 🤣🤣🤣🤣

ZenNudist · 06/06/2023 14:23

I prefer SC. I prepare delicious simple food or go out to eat. I get fed up of getting up for hotel breakfasts. Eating out for every meal gives me gut ache.

I have to be careful not to spend hours shopping cooking and cleaning aswell as im a sucker for staying on top of laundry on holiday. I try and limit the time I spend doing chores.

A hotel is relaxing but SC is much nicer to have my own space. I stayed in a hotel last week. Got fed up of the massive breakfast buffet and getting up early to get to it.ooking at villas for next year...

Hoppinggreen · 06/06/2023 14:25

We pick SC every time, even over AI.
We took the kids AI once and they said they preferred SC, we like the space and the lack of mealtimes and the choice to pick restaurants.
I sometimes cook but it’s more often a meal out or a simple sarnie etc

Grumpyfroghats · 06/06/2023 14:26

@Appleofmyeye2023 when we do self catering, we usually get a three bed so that the kids have their own rooms. They sleep a lot better, mess about less and we get more time to ourselves too.

All of what you said is 10x worse in a hotel room in my experience, horrible to be all in one room

Kiwano · 06/06/2023 14:35

Of course it's a holiday.

I make it a strict rule that when we self cater, there is minimal catering involved. That means we will eat out a restaurants, pubs etc a few times, and otherwise will have takeaways or snacky meals which consist of things like bread, cheese, pate, salad or soup or microwave meals. I don't do any clothes washing and we all contribute in terms of things like washing dishes and a quick tidy-round at the end of the stay.

I far prefer it to hotels, because we have a whole house to relax in and we're not circumscribed in terms of mealtimes. It's a great holiday so far as we are concerned.

Tinytigertail · 06/06/2023 14:37

We always self cater, love a BBQ by the pool, or discovering a little local restaurant. I want to be able to get to in the morning and make a pot of (decent) coffee and then sit and read while I drink it. I do not want to have to get dressed and queue for a coffee in the morning! We tried AI once, it was supposedly a very fancy one, and all absolutely hated it. To each their own I guess!

DanceMonster · 06/06/2023 14:37

It is for me. We always go self catering, as we have an autistic child who wouldn’t cope with the food at an all inclusive resort. Or the people.
A villa in the sun with a pool is absolutely a holiday for us. It’s the best we’re going to get anyway!

Conkersinautumn · 06/06/2023 14:41

I couldn't get with a catered holiday, set choices and mealtimes, being around groups of strangers like that. I definitely want my own space and being able to come and go, to have people round if we want but essentially be able to be able to relax away from other people on holiday or staff etc.

Wishawisha · 06/06/2023 14:42

I know it’s not the point really, but I hate that it’s up to debate what a holiday is. Like the whole idea that staying in the UK is just a staycation and not actually a holiday as if there is a price threshold or distance from
home threshold that the holiday needs to meet.

Staying in a tent and cooking on a tiny, parafin fire might not be an enjoyable holiday for some, but it’s a holiday just as much as staying in an all inclusive in the Bahamas.

I don’t really love self catered, but it is easier sometimes with children. But, I don’t think it needs to be SC vs all inclusive resort. You can stay in a hotel and eat out for different meals. This was my preferred way to holiday before children - I’d mainly visit different cities and travel around and eat out wherever I fancied. You can do it with children but it’s harder.

Crunchymum · 06/06/2023 14:44

Of course it is a holiday but I do kind of get what she means. We had booked our first ever AI for May 2020 (and we all know how that went down) as I wanted a "proper" break. I know from experience that SC means I end up doing the lions share.

We never did make the AI but we've been on about 8 UK Self catering holidays since. I love them, value them and enjoy them as holidays but I still hanker after holiday where I don't have to cook or make a packed lunch

** I do have a DP but I have fallen into that horrible default parent role and the one thing he doesn't "do" is cook

DanceMonster · 06/06/2023 14:45

My autistic child wouldn’t cope with a hotel either. And the other guests wouldn’t cope with his 3 hour meltdowns in the middle of the night. So self catering is the best we’re going to get for the foreseeable future! Luckily we enjoy it.

fizzyfood · 06/06/2023 14:50

Not for me. Would rather save a bit longer and go in a hotel.

Definitelynotme2022 · 06/06/2023 14:52

I like both!

I preferred self catering when the kids were younger, a particular highlight was several years in a beach hut on the sandspit at Mudeford - just stunning. Best holidays ever!

Now they're older (16 and 11) we prefer AI. We book two adjacent rooms and they share. The catering wherever we've has been flexible enough that you can breakfast at 8.00am or 11.00am, and the kids are old and sensible enough to almost do their own thing in a more enclosed environment. We went for some sunshine in October half term last year, and it worked just brilliantly.

mellicauli · 06/06/2023 14:53

Advantages of self catering over hotels:

  1. You are not paying for an executive business centre, a wellness room, a laundry, a receptionist, an inhouse beautician and room service options that you will never ever need
  2. You are never crowded out of the pool. It's all yours. You can play really noisy games that take up the entire pool and blare out your tunes if you are far enough from others.
  3. You don't have to listen to: other people arguing, other people having sex, other people slamming doors and laughing down corridors, other people having sex or other people's boring conversations.
  4. You don't have to sit in the dark or get bitten by mozzies on the balcony while the little ones sleep. You can read your book on a sofa.
  5. No portion control on the booze
  6. No queue for the pingpong table
  7. If you get food poisoning it's all your own fault
  8. You get to mooch around local supermarkets WITH PURPOSE and try out random stuff
  9. No need to hide from a rep or swerve past the welcome drinks
  10. You can stay 2 weeks in self catering for price of 1 in a hotel
  11. You never miss breakfast in self catering
  12. No need to go on a tedious tours to dull tourist attractions with a bunch of morons. (Or if you do, at least they are your morons)
DanceMonster · 06/06/2023 14:54

Actually even without our autistic child we always preferred a private pool and our own space to sharing with hundreds of others!

cushioncovers · 06/06/2023 14:56

At long as I have the budget to eat out most days then I don't mind self catering. No way I'm cooking everyday when I'm on holiday.

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