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(Poll) If a new disease with a similar fatality rate to pre-vaccination COVID appeared again…

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user1477391263 · 06/06/2023 12:58

And the government started to issue instructions about rules, hand washing, masks, social distancing, not meeting up with people, and the like, similarly to what happened in 2020-21….

What would your response be?

A: I would follow the rules more strictly than I did last time (because WFH has made it easier OR because the deaths from COVID make me feel we should have been stricter last time).

B: I would follow the rules about as strictly as I did last time, for the most part.

C: I would follow some rules or follow most rules to an extent, but would be significantly less “strict” about this than I was during COVID.

D: I would be much, much less strict or would completely ignore most rules/instructions, insofaras I was able to disregard them.

I’m just trying to work out whether the COVID experience and aftermath has shifted the Overton window and made people more open to the idea of following rules etc. to contain infectious diseases, OR alternatively whether people have grown a bit more blasé about diseases, disillusioned about governments or concerned about negative aftermaths of pandemic control measures.

For what it’s worth, I’d be a C (although I was never very strict first time round either to be honest).

And MNHQ, can we please get a proper poll selection option that goes beyond YABU/YANBU options?

OP posts:
ToWhitToWhoo · 09/06/2023 19:01

Howmanysleepsnow · 08/06/2023 07:42

Option F?
Dont make it about whether or not you trust the government. Read the research, look at how it’s transmitted and how it takes hold/ who is at risk, take steps to keep yourself/ loved ones safe. Don’t be put off by the fact someone else you don’t trust has reached the same conclusion and don’t base your decisions on how you feel about the covid government’s handling of things. Base decisions on facts as they become known and on probabilities until then.

Exactly!

ToWhitToWhoo · 09/06/2023 19:06

romdowa · 08/06/2023 08:44

D . I'd only follow the rules I couldn't ignore. So masks in shops etc but that's it. Never took a vaccination for covid because at that stage I was completely sick of lockdown and rules. Wouldn't take a vaccine for any further pandemics either

If you don't want lockdown or restrictions, surely that's a good reason TO get vaccinated?

(Assuming that a vaccine is available.)

It's a long time since people have had their lives restricted by the threat of polio, for example- and that's because we do get vaccinated.

Inmyonesie · 09/06/2023 19:12

D, unless virus was worse for children, then B

ToWhitToWhoo · 09/06/2023 19:35

gogohmm · 06/06/2023 13:11

D

I personally think we should be much stricter in guarding the truly vulnerable by providing a lot more assistance to allow them to shield (financial and practical) whilst letting the rest of us live our lives. I caught covid early on and it was barely anything - thankfully as my job did not stop and unlike many I didn't work from home, I was coordinating the aid for my part of the city too. Making everyone lock down just didn't help anyone, the Swedish government got it right

The world isn't divided into The Truly Vulnerable, and Everyone Else.

There's a sliding scale of vulnerability. And you can't shield all the medically vulnerable indefinitely without losing a huge number of older workers and the collapse of charities relying on (often retired) volunteers, and the daycare provided by grandparents.

I am - like many people- moderately vulnerable by virtue (vice?) of age and chronic health issues. In fact, I did NOT (to my knowledge) get Covid, and I DID suffer deterioration in some of my other health issues probably as a result of lack of availabili5ty of doctors, and perhaps also due to extreme stress. So you might expect me to be more opposed to precautions - and yet, without the precautions, I might well have got Covid badly, and there might have been even fewer medical services for all like me, and for everyone.

But it's interesting that you mention Sweden. It's at least possible that Sweden was able to get by with fewer restrictions, in part because higher public spending meant less crowding in schools and public transport and healthcare settings; less risk of overwhelming health and other services. British preoccupation with 'efficiency'; i.e. having as few staff as possible, may have meant less resilience in the face of a crisis. Yes, Scandinavian levels of services would mean paying more tax.

ToWhitToWhoo · 09/06/2023 21:59

LumpySpaceCow · 07/06/2023 17:00

D
It riles me that I followed the rules and the PM and his crew were doing what the fuck they wanted.

And the PM got a life-threatening case of Covid, probably because of his own stupid carelessness. He should be seen as a cautionary tale, not an example to follow.

FrankieStar · 09/06/2023 22:06

A

I got covid in my late 30's - NO underlying health issues so not in a high risk category; this was before the vaccinations came out, and had to be monitored for weeks after the infection left due to heart issues as a result of the infection. It scared the shit out of me, quite frankly.

User1328745 · 09/06/2023 22:10

ToWhitToWhoo · 09/06/2023 21:59

And the PM got a life-threatening case of Covid, probably because of his own stupid carelessness. He should be seen as a cautionary tale, not an example to follow.

He was overweight like a lot of them were, he said that himself

OperationUnicorn · 09/06/2023 22:11

user1477391263 · 06/06/2023 12:58

And the government started to issue instructions about rules, hand washing, masks, social distancing, not meeting up with people, and the like, similarly to what happened in 2020-21….

What would your response be?

A: I would follow the rules more strictly than I did last time (because WFH has made it easier OR because the deaths from COVID make me feel we should have been stricter last time).

B: I would follow the rules about as strictly as I did last time, for the most part.

C: I would follow some rules or follow most rules to an extent, but would be significantly less “strict” about this than I was during COVID.

D: I would be much, much less strict or would completely ignore most rules/instructions, insofaras I was able to disregard them.

I’m just trying to work out whether the COVID experience and aftermath has shifted the Overton window and made people more open to the idea of following rules etc. to contain infectious diseases, OR alternatively whether people have grown a bit more blasé about diseases, disillusioned about governments or concerned about negative aftermaths of pandemic control measures.

For what it’s worth, I’d be a C (although I was never very strict first time round either to be honest).

And MNHQ, can we please get a proper poll selection option that goes beyond YABU/YANBU options?

I'd ignore them completely, just as I did with Covid. I haven't taken any jabs, am totally fine. My parents also ignored the rules and have taken no jabs.

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