Lockdown report/Covid enquiry - if you supported lockdown do you regret it?

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I haven’t seen a thread on this so sorry if it has been done. In light of the report yesterday I wander if people have changed their minds on whether lockdown was a good idea. I remember the threads of utter lunacy on here and the mask hysteria/schools debate. I was against lockdowns and masks very early on but complied - I don’t think I’d ever do it again. I genuinely think it was a massive overreaction which has damaged things in this country irreparably and left many children and adults far worse off than they were pre covid.

Just commenting on the thread as you are

Willmafrockfit · Today 10:50
er i didnt work from home @Umbonkers

As I don't know you I would not know that - it wasn't aimed at you personally more the attitude that your post conveys that was typical of many people at the time

I dont recall where the one hour each day came from, but it was not true.

You were allowed out for exercise for however long it took you.

I read the whole sodding covid act. Because I had been caught walking my (very large) dogs for two hours. I was threatened with going to court. So I ended up reading the entire act to prove there was no time limit.

FWIW I was against lockdown itself beforehand, but once it was enforced I had a really lovely time. The first one I had no work, money coming in and some gorgeous weather. I did an online degree, so now I'm Harvard educated << joke.

Some of the threads on here were mindblowing. Quarantining post, washing down shopping and of course the great toilet paper hoarding.

I'm sorry for everyone who lost someone. That was terrible for you.

I loved every moment of lock down. Both me and DH were furlough repeatedly and it's time we would never had with our kids. It was brilliant.

What I did and still do find ridiculous is those on MN (I've never seen one irl) who thi k you should financially ruin your family to isolate.

Before furlough was a thing I posted saying I would work with it. I was torn to shreds.

Even when you say that now you get critism. I would test if I thought I had it to know if I should avoid my Nan. And yes I do work with very vulnerable children. But while the Government think that job is worth nothing I will not prioritise those children over my own. So I won't lose any money if I feel fine.

@Cornettoninja when being pro or voting it would be nice if people could consider what's happening a few miles away. World events are different, it isn't too much to ask that people think about vulnerable people, or the fate of others in the society that they want freedom, safety and protection in.

I didn't believe it at the time and I didn't comply.

I didnt buy into any of it! I am so glad I didnt now looking back!

Let's have a think about the logic behind it all.

You were forced (by threat of arrest) to wear a mask while standing in a restaurant, but you could take the mask off if you were sitting down. 🙄

You couldn't go see your dying loved ones in case they caught something which killed them. 🙄

Its a deadly virus, but if you just wear a bit of cloth over your face you will become immune.

The people who work in virology labs have to wear hermetically sealed suits, but to combat the deadliest threat to humanity in a generation a bit of manky cloth would do.

Yeah, I believed them 🙄

Yes it was a total overreaction, and what was worse was the moralising and shutting down of any debate. If there had been an open conversation we would soon have realised what a disaster it was. It’s pretty clear to anyone who looks at the evidence the whole thing was a massive mistake but seems it will take a generation for this to be publically admitted as too many are too invested. It will largely be ignored but I fear the feeling of something hidden and ongoing lying will blight society for quite some time.

It was one MP, Gove or someone, who said exercise "should" take about an hour and then everyone ran with that.

The first one, but it should have happened much more decisively and ended more decisively ie quicker.
There was no knowledge of how to treat people who were very sick in first waive.
We were poorly prepared to deal with a pandemic.

Hysteria with sanitising shopping, panic buying toilet rolls etc was madness tho.

No, I don't regret it. I was watching people die before my eyes and lost colleagues. Mask wearing is still the best way to prevent spread of Covid and other viruses, and I cannot for the life of me understand why people were against that. Lockdown was the best we knew at the time to protect the NHS. Those that call those that supported lockdown "fetishists" or "blindly following the science" or "sheep" were very clearly not working in the NHS and seeing what was happening there. There is a reason so many Doctors and nurses are suffering from PTSD from it now.

you dont know me or my attitude @Umbonkers
i am just saying how it was for me
as are others
i was also frightened and thought i was going to die,
i drove to work every day
plenty of people had furlough and no doubt suffered or wrote a book!
would you prefer that i home schooled unruly children and lived in a flat?

Yep. As a doctor's wife, I know it stopped everything completely crumbling and from that point of view it had benefits. Mind you, certain parts of the NHS (e.g., GP) are now at the point of collapse and nobody's doing a bloody thing to fix them.

As a person, lockdown nearly broke me. Trying to work full time teaching a university course and running research projects with 3 young kids and a 6 month old baby, and no help at all. And I know I was one of the privileged ones because I still had a job at the end of it and we had a garden etc.

It's terrifying how lacking in backbone we all turn out to be. When in doubt, DON'T do the thing that will definitely cause unbelievable harm. Hold firm for a bit. Hysterical videos from Italy took hold and instead of rising above it we dove right in.

I'm disappointed that so few people feel shame for backing lockdown because it will certainly happen again without proper self-examination.

Do you not think it was because of lockdown,rules restrictions, that you didn't have a case of covid until November
Do you not think the reasons why the number of cases dropped dramatically was because people couldn't mix?

And it's very painful for the people currently dying from medical neglect to be told by those still in denial that "lockdown saved lives". Hmmmm all evidence says it didnt.

Highlighting again that this report was not an unbiased review of the situation - the eventual impact and actions that filter into future pandemic planning will be the biggest indicator of wrongs and rights and Influences will be taken from various reports and analysis.

For info I work in the NHS and was frontline seeing covid patients from the very beginning. I’ve been opposed to lockdown since end May 2020. Community masking does nothing. Vaccines should have been for high risk only and vax passports were totally unethical. I am far from the only clinician I know to hold these views.

Everyone lost their fucking mind, let's face it

Keir Starmer wanted to lockdown even more than the Tories, I will remember that when I vote

Michael Gove caused that misapprehension on Tv.

funnily enough, he never bothered to clearly correct it/clear it up.

I guess doing so would be admitting openly that he himself had found the rules (that he was on Tv to discuss) confusing.

I live in a seaside resort, we had really low numbers right up to August 2020. Lots of visitors started arriving which was fair enough as people needed a break but it was so crowded and people coming from all over. Then EOTHO started, totally pointless here as all the visitors were keeping the restaurants and pubs busy and on the EOTHO days it became utter madness with long queues to get into crowded restaurants. How the virus loved it and we spiked and had lots of deaths, probably due to our older than average population.

If we'd had it in November when the hospitality businesses are always quiet it would have made more sense but all it did in the August was fan the flames that were already happening.

People close to me died from Covid. I genuinely believe the lockdowns saved more vulnerable people from the same fate.

This is being demonstrated very nicely by the BBC this morning. We’ve woken up to the news that a major dam in Ukraine has been bombed and thousands of people are in villages in the path of the water. Despite all the implications of that, the main story on BBC news channel was Prince Harry giving evidence in the MGN case.