Lockdown report/Covid enquiry - if you supported lockdown do you regret it?

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I haven’t seen a thread on this so sorry if it has been done. In light of the report yesterday I wander if people have changed their minds on whether lockdown was a good idea. I remember the threads of utter lunacy on here and the mask hysteria/schools debate. I was against lockdowns and masks very early on but complied - I don’t think I’d ever do it again. I genuinely think it was a massive overreaction which has damaged things in this country irreparably and left many children and adults far worse off than they were pre covid.

Are you always so dismissive of people with different views than yours? Why do you think they’re stupid and not you? The thing is, the only absolute way to prove that lockdown was a bad decision is to recreate a pandemic but not implement lockdown. So the rest is just debate.

Not being a scientist myself I believed what the scientists said on the matter. Rightly or wrongly I couldn't make a call so did as was told.

With hindsight it really could have been different but it was a new virus which was killing people and we had to do our best with what knowledge we had as a country. Lots of countries tried different approaches but no one came out of it unscathed.

I just hope they've learnt from it for when the next one hits.

I'm not sure who you're angry with here 😂

I was a Frontline ICU Advanced Nurse Practitioner at the time, so no. I'm still suffering mental trauma because of what happened. We lost colleagues and patients needlessly. We did not have the PPE needed. Non-covid patients died because we didn't have ICU beds for them. ICU nurses were caring for 3 ICU patients at once (it should be 1 - these are incredibly complex patients). Non ICU trained nurses were being drafted to cover ICU with an hour or 2 training. Every 12 hour shift was 16+, with death after death. People were abusing us for 'getting paid to mark deaths as covid'.

And this was all with lockdowns.

I think lockdown could have been handled better, and I 100% wish that there wasn't a cost to the lockdown, and I also have the most sympathy for those who are suffering now because of them. But that doesn't mean not doing them would have been better. I think its easy now to think that though, but all of my colleagues in the thick of it (the ones who didn't die/leave the profession/get long covid) think the same.

You haven’t disproved it 🤷‍♂️

Labour supporters tended to be lockdown supporters, plenty of posters on here fit that bill, and anyone who did question it was called ‘far right’

So yes the general theme was evident with the public

99 MPs opposed it, which party?

Mark Drakeford and Sturgeon harsher or not

Unions left or right?

I took it all very seriously because me and DH are both clinically vulnerable and I was pregnant at the time of the first lockdown. I was honestly so scared I'd have done anything. And I was angry that other people were breaking rules as I felt they were making it more likely I'd end up along with no other family and 2 children to bring up or worse that they would be orphaned (we have a v small family).

In hindsight I think my risk was a lot lower than initially stated. But I don't blame medics for being risk averse - or indeed the gov in the early stages.

I'm more angry about partygate than lockdown, but I don't think we'd ever have a true lockdown again - it wouldn't work a second time as people feel so cheated.

Hindsight is 20/20 as others have said. Most nations had strict lockdowns. The others didn't have liars and cheats running them

Oh did I imagine the "stay home, protect the NHS" slogans? 🧐

Depends on your circumstances. I was losing vulnerable clients to Covid so supported lockdown. I still went to work every day so didn't 'benefit' from furlough or working from home, however going into the office and seeing colleagues was lovely especially driving with zero traffic.

I don't have kids of school/uni age so didn't effect them bar DD having to go through a nasty accident requiring hospital stay then pregnancy and birth during lockdown which wasn't ideal. But then it allowed her and her DH to be at home with baby rather than working.

There was mass panic around washing food etc which I never did. Unfortunately common sense went out the window.

And you haven't proved it. As you made the claim, it's up to you to do that.

You'll continue to fail if you're only looking at the Anglosphere.

I agree with this, I think the wrong things were focused on, I think I agreed with the first one, whilst the virus was being figured out, but I think that should have been it.

Tbf not everyone is saying the op and others who said it at the time were right, even with this report

So no answers then to questions

Pity.

We were terrified into submission. I regret supporting lockdown and as time passed I knew it was wrong. I don't blame anyone in the public for supporting lockdowns. But we should all learn from it and know that the government cares not about us.

Jacinda Ardern is the worst liar of them all

Yes, what's being missed there is that people were responding to impending lockdown. In many cases, entirely logically.

I supported it and the masks in fact I still wear a mask in a hospital environment, and I haven't caught any viruses at all since before lockdown.
It suited me because I'm a quiet life elderly sort of person. I got to spend more time with my dd ( we live together) and we took our dogs out every day for a long walk so I actually got more exercise!
My DP who doesn't live with us never wore a mask and recently caught covid. He actually wanted to go into work, but they wouldn't let him 🙄

Continued refusal to consider the world beyond the Anglosphere, I see. Funny.

You took the words out of my fingers! Had nothing been done, would we be here debating if doing nothing was the right thing in light of xxxxx thousands of deaths?

I live in the ‘Anglosphere’ as you keep reiterating

What the left and right do here is impacts me more. Obviously.

Great if you’re in India or Russia, idk maybe you are

And we don't know if a different government would have made different choices with the scientific evidence at their disposal so saying it's the fault of the government is crazy, a labour government could have made different decisions with a much worse outcome. We just don't know.

What I want to know is why the liars in government are being allowed to delay the inquiry into covid until after the next election - that's what we should all be angry about

We didn’t follow the science per se. We followed the science that suited the narrative at the time.
Plenty of scientists believed lockdowns and restrictions were not the way to go but they were drowned out by sociogenic mass hysteria - and I lost both my mother and MIL during the pandemic. They were both very frail and sadly, would probably have died of pneumonia (as do most elderly people) had covid not got there first.

It was so obvious that the science was all over the place with the eat out to help out policy. Apparently, you could sit down, without a mask and eat food that was exposed to any floating vistas particles circulating in the air, but if you stood up, you were immediately either vulnerable or capable of transmission.

Incidentally, I also know plenty of medical staff who weren’t ‘traumatised’ by what they saw and also believed it was a complete overreaction, so I guess it depends who you talk to.

That sounds incredibly difficult,my 16 year old son recently had a three week stay on critical care, the staff do an amazing job I was speaking to one about he pandemic and he said they had never experienced anything like it with some covid, patients who were not ventilated having to see other ventilated patients getting sicker and sicker ,some staff have never recovered from getting covid themselves the staff on the critical care unit my son was on saved his life I will always be greatf ul,for he job they do.

I also think as we are an Island if we had closed our borders straight away we wouldnt have had to have any lock downs

https://twitter.com/martingilhooly/status/1521023289442844673?t=oOaQ9s_DzdleQf8b8I9dtg&s=19

Yeah we must have all imagined austerity 🧐