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To be heartbroken by husband

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Dinkydaisy1 · 05/06/2023 21:15

Long post here. Apologies but tried to keep everything relevant. Just feel very disheartened by marriage and at the end of a road.

Been married circa 20 years, two wonderful teens. Overall an okay marriage - nothing bad, we never fight, just different personalities, so more roomies with good benefits. Till....

Husband pros:
He's overall a great guy, good heart, kind, gentle. Has never raised a voice, stopped me from doing anything, interfered, drank, slept around, even come home late. What I want, I get, eg if I say I want to go on holiday, he will painstakingly look up itenaries, book tickets, take us out. Spends a lot of time with kids, divides housework in half, takes care of all expenses without expecting me to contribute a dime. Doesn't care about my spending (on his card) , very supportive of my job like coming home early or adjusting work schedule to suit me. Protects me in front of his family if anything ever crops up.

Cons
So main one has been that he's emotionally unavailable. He doesn't talk, at all. We can drive for hours, or weeks can go by, before he makes conversation. He will speak if I ask him or start talking, and listen when I chatter, but he will never come home from work and talk about his day, or share his plans over breakfast, or ask how my day was, or just talk, in normal people speak. When I raise it sometimes he makes an effort, but otherwise no.
He also had a bit of a difficult childhood (nothing major, just midly neglectful and immature parents) and as a teen he took care of them and his siblings etc to keep peace (he is a very gentle person, peacemaker type). But he admitted that it took an emotional toll on him, and at some point after his parents and siblings gave him a hard time, he decided he would close his heart and "never love again". So he never says I love you, you look nice, have semblance of "affection" or love, companionship.

So all of that continued and because there was so much good I kept going, and had my own busy life with job, friends, loved ones. But it did bother me, learned to live with it but it wasn't easy.

Now comes the HARD part.

We both have good salaries (joined income circa £300k, this is relevant) neither of us are big spenders but I've always said one thing I want is a nicer house, at the moment it's tiny so my family can never come and stay, kids have box rooms, hard to entertain etc. He's made some big investments over the years, including some I begged him not to as they sounded stupid and risky and I said do what you want as long as we fix the house which is breaking down and un-liveable as that's a priority for me. Well guess what, he invested, and we lost everything so essentially now have a massive mortgage and no moneh after working really hard for decades and living fairly simple lives. This was gutting. One was a particularly stupid one where the guy essentially ran away with cash, and I was absolutely fuming because I had specifically told him not to do this one.

Anyway he was contrite and admitted his mistake, and I kept saying, this is really big for me, we really need to work better together after this, etc etc.

Last week he told me he had a job offer he was considering. In another country, so essentially he would move and come back every 2 months or so. Turns out a friend had told him of a good job opp in a tax free country, he explored it, discussed with friends, went for interview, did research, and one he got offer, went back to negotiate, and THEN told me. I was FURIOUS. I just couldn't believe how 6 months of a decision making process went by and he couldn't be arsed to share any of that with me. He insisted that he thought he'd share once he got the offer, otherwise there was nothing to discuss. I was aghast, I mean isn't marriage/life meant to be about sharing, talking, discussing - I felt incredibly disrespected that my voice only came in a few days before a major decision was to be made and I didn't factor in any of the thought or decision making. We both wfh so just felt betrayed that there was lying going on for 6 months, not once did he say he was meeting recruiter /interviewing etc. This huge decision means we would see him twice a quarter or so, my kids would be gutted, I'd need to fly out every half term as part of visa arrangements, it would just result in a major upset for everyone.

He then said that he needed to do this to pay for the house, so I said essentially I'm sacrificing a husband for a house. I'm also basically paying for all his financial mistakes.

Most of all I'm just fuming at the omission of any sort of discussion and am just really, really hurt. We've been through a bit of up and down, but for me this feels like the straw that broke the camels back.

I've just told him to do whatever he needs to do, accept etc, I just don't care or am invested in this marriage anymore.

I don't know what to do. Not sure what I want but just feeling incredibly hurt. Is this what 20 years of marriage looks like - you are still a nothing in somebody's life.

Am I being unreasonable or overreacting or is his behaviour ridiculous?

Thank you for reading if you got this far!

OP posts:
cocoloco117 · 06/06/2023 05:40

Being cynical, if he doesn’t talk to you and is emotionally unavailable, then why not let him bugger off for two months at a time, get the mortgage paid, then at least you’ll be in a better position if you divorce, or to buy a nicer house? Either way don’t expect any change from him after this length of time, has he made any effort to tackle his childhood issues or behaviour issues, eg therapy, counselling etc.?

Sighhhhh · 06/06/2023 05:53

@Lolabear38 very sound advice

Unicorntastic · 06/06/2023 06:29

user1492757084 · 06/06/2023 03:56

Your husband has said the new job is for the house and financial rewards for the family.
Make a deal.

Open a bank account where you need two signatures to withdraw funds and where you can't direct debit any money. Have him put all earnings into it, apart from his living expenses and have him share his pay slip information with you.

Try that for a year and see if it is successful.
After a couple of years you might end up with your bigger family home and you might end up with a couple of very exciting holidays abroad.
If you leave him, you are certainly alone so it's worth a try and it is more stable for your children.

This is what I would do in your situation, use that money to get the house done up for maximum resell value , at least then your living situation is improved or you are ready to sell or move. Let him claw back some money, maybe you need to speak to a financial advisor about the practicalities of him living abroad should you divorce, are you entitled to the money etc just to cover yourself should this job & his intentions not be what he says they are.

LAMPS1 · 06/06/2023 07:27

If you feel up to it OP, I would give yourself some space and let him go and work abroad but only if he allows you complete control of all finances.

Invest his income wisely and safely yourself and improve your housing situation at the same time. If he’s emotionally unavailable anyway, you might find you don’t miss his family input much at all and you can use the time and high income positively, to recover some of what he’s lost. It also gives you a chance to experience more independence and run the house and family yourself which will help with your decision later. Your dc may miss him initially but you will help them concentrate on looking forward with excitement to visits to see him. Lots of children (mine included) live this sort of life and it can be incredibly positive.

Understandable that you feel so disappointed and betrayed and fed up of the loneliness, but turn around this situation he’s presented you with. Turn it to your own advantage to get back to where you were before, if you can. And at the same time, to add a layer of financial protection should you decide to divorce.

I’d give it a couple of school years of this before deciding how you then feel about the marriage. Divorce might be the glaringly obvious path by then, or he might surprise you, get himself some counselling and persuade you to let him try again.
Wishing you the best of luck whatever you decide.

Dinkydaisy1 · 06/06/2023 11:07

Thank you everyone, every one of your suggestions and advice has been really useful, and I am glad to have a range of perspectives. Really appreciate it and taking the points on board to have a think about how to approach this. Mental Health is definitely on the top!

OP posts:
bonzaitree · 06/06/2023 15:40

Thoughtful2355 · 05/06/2023 23:01

To be honest I'm not sure why if on 300k a year you couldn't save up enough in 4-5 years to outright buy a house worth at least a million . Even more if you saved a million and got a mortgage...

I live off 12k a year with 2 adults and 2 children so that we can save. So in theory on 300k a year I could probably save atleast 270k - 285k a year..........

When you earn £300k you pay taxes at a rate of 40%

so you wouldn’t receive anywhere near £270,000 far less be able to save that sum.

Snowy2022 · 06/06/2023 16:18

Lolabear38 · 06/06/2023 04:52

Unpopular opinion @Dinkydaisy1 - don’t come to MN for serious marriage advice. You will invariably be told, regardless of the details/ issue, to leave/ LTB/ get out now/ he’s a selfish prick etc. If that’s what you want to hear of course then that’s fine but you’ll almost certainly get a very skewed response on here. Please read and take on board what you like but also seek advice elsewhere for a more balanced view. Good luck to you xx

Lolabear,

I am really shocked at how quick LTB is thrown around here.

Someone else posted OP's DH says he will be making money to give her the house she wants.

Not to sound unkind OP ( or is it optics for you?), after your first post I hurriedly tried to really understand your objection especially since you say he makes conversation very rarely anyway, so I fail to see the difference to what you have now to him visiting every 2 months- it read the same to me.

I understand living with a reserved person must be hard. My brother is a lot like this but I grew up with him so I am used to having a conversation every so often, but boy is he funny when he talks. So I hang on to that- to when he says something. We could drive for 6 hours with me chattering away non stop- I'm outspoken although can be reserved too.

However, he is risk averse unlike your husband. So I guess his wife is not worried about the family losing money- in fact he invests traditionally which has paid off well for them. He also has a big job in insurance in the city and sometimes works away from family home but spends at least 1 full week with them each month when work takes him to the city the family home is.

Greentree1 · 06/06/2023 16:37

I think this may work out OK in the end. While he's away he may realise how much he needs and wants you and the children. And him being away may let you become more independent and feel more in control of your life. When he comes back you may both be really happy to see each other and have lots of things to talk about. I would say give it a try.

billy1966 · 06/06/2023 17:09

OP,

I would detach emotionally, your marriage is over.

However, let him work away and earn money to repay what he has lost.

You won't see much of him and hopefully you will recover enough to secure your future with the children.

I actually don't think he is a good man at all.

He has very selfishly indulged himself.

I would do 100% whatever works for you, including divorcing him the minute it suits you.

My marital vows would no longer apply either.

I would much rather he had had an affair that to lose our life savings through stupidity.

He's got the gambling gene, so beware.

Having seen affairs and money lost in marriages, loss of substantial savings was the worst.

I appreciate not everyone will share this view.😁

sadsack78 · 06/06/2023 17:50

I'm so sorry you're going through this, OP.

It sounds like he has no idea how to be part of a marriage at all. He doesn't consult you about any of his decisions whatsoever. He is acting and operating like a single person that has to provide money for a wife and kids, even though you are very much together. Marriage is largely teamwork, from how you raise your kids to how you spend your free time. He obviously cares for you and your kids but has no idea how to be part of an integrated family.

He is obviously very shut down and carrying a lot of baggage from his childhood. He doesn't sound ready to be in an adult relationship at all, and more like you got married because it was expected at a certain point in your lives rather than because it was genuinely the right move. If you had been left to make that decision on your own terms, you might have waited longer or been able to figure out he wasn't ready.

Do you think he would even be opening to any kind of counselling, or have things progressed beyond that stage? It's worth trying. You might still want to do it even if you decide your marriage is over to help you with the transition and give you emotional support.

I am sorry for all of this, OP. You are both obviously good people who have tried hard in your own ways to keep things together. You have managed to stay together for 20 years and have two beautiful kids to show for it. If things between you end, it has not been a failure❤

Throwaway1234567890000000 · 27/01/2024 12:18

Thoughtful2355 · 05/06/2023 23:01

To be honest I'm not sure why if on 300k a year you couldn't save up enough in 4-5 years to outright buy a house worth at least a million . Even more if you saved a million and got a mortgage...

I live off 12k a year with 2 adults and 2 children so that we can save. So in theory on 300k a year I could probably save atleast 270k - 285k a year..........

You will only bring home circa £150k after tax and NI on a salary of £300k….

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