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To skive off work this week ?

194 replies

IKnowItsNotMine · 04/06/2023 23:35

Posting her for quick traffic - I’ve got 10 mins to decide !

Relevant :

  • Im literally never off work with sickness - I’ve had covid twice and loads of other illnesses but will power through 😷
  • It’s lovely weather this week (UK) and I want to enjoy it before we’re back in winter.
  • No one covers my job.
  • I need annual leave for childcare in summer hols.

YABU - Get to work you lazy loser
YANBU - Life’s short, you deserve a week in the sun with no pesky kids.

OP posts:
EbonyRaven · 05/06/2023 10:29

@electriclight

I like my job and am treated fairly, so I treat them fairly in return.

I wouldn't seek to artificially inflate my AL by a week more than my colleagues get.

Surely we all know who the skivers are and dislike them for it? The ones who think they should get preferential treatment over everyone else, who don't care if their colleagues have to pick up the slack?

Rarely progress, rarely respected.

There are plenty of people who turn up for work and aren't off sick that often, who slack off a lot, and do fuck-all at work, and expect people to 'pick up the slack.' Salaried slackers we used to call them. There are plenty of bone idle fuckers who don't skive off work. They come in and do fuck-all!

Good for you if you are respected a lot at work. Many employees are not. Many are over-worked and tired and taken advantage of, and their manager takes the piss. They overload them with work, don't allow them the holiday leave they want, badger them in out-of-work hours (this happens to my DH!) and mithers them to see when they're coming back if they're off sick.

Not every employer is a fragrant, shiny, lovely breath of fresh air who is kind and thoughtful towards their employees. You're deluded if you think that's the case. Some employers treat their employees like shit, and they deserve people calling in sick for some time off. Also, many employers give a very basic amount of holiday leave/no flexi-time/flexibility.

My friend wanted Christmas off (in her job that does 24/7) a couple of years ago, and she was given it by the manager (signed off in July.) Off 22 to 28 December, then back in for New Year. Manager left, and a new one started in September, and he retracted the leave. Said she HAS to work Christmas/no-one can have it off etc etc, but she also has to work new year too as it's 'too late to get cover.' Everyone else has one or the other off. She had worked over Christmas Eve/Christmas day/Boxing day for the past 5 years and just wanted some time with her children (all 3 under 13 at that point.)

It made her very low and miserable, and started to feel quite depressed. She went to the GP a couple of months later - in early December, and asked if she could get a couple of weeks off for her mental health. GP gave her 4 weeks. Didn't return til 7th January. So the manager was then forced to cover her for Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, and Boxing Day, AND New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, and the Bank Holiday Monday that followed ... Really struggled to get staff in, and had to cover half the shifts himself. Utterly deserved it.

Treated unfairly? Treat unfairly in return.

RampantIvy · 05/06/2023 10:30

Temperatures this week are 15 - 17 degrees where I live Sad

pillsthrillsandbellyache · 05/06/2023 10:37

Agree with every word @EbonyRaven . The thing is, I wouldn't do it because it would actually impact others where i work negatively at the moment, but some of these responses... like bloody robots.

EbonyRaven · 05/06/2023 10:54

pillsthrillsandbellyache · 05/06/2023 10:37

Agree with every word @EbonyRaven . The thing is, I wouldn't do it because it would actually impact others where i work negatively at the moment, but some of these responses... like bloody robots.

😘

ilovesooty · 05/06/2023 12:16

electriclight · 05/06/2023 10:14

You don't have to be a rat on a wheel OR someone who thinks you deserve an extra paid week off at your employer's expense.

There's a spectrum of middle ground in between. Most people opt for expecting fair treatment and giving that in return.

Exactly. Some of the people endorsing this suggestion are exaggerating. There's a normal middle ground of common decency.

Dontjudgeme101 · 05/06/2023 13:04

IKnowItsNotMine · 05/06/2023 08:10

I’ve gone to work I couldn’t do it !

Great responses on here though, thanks guys 😁

Thank goodness. You know it was the right thing to do op.

CriticalAlert · 06/06/2023 18:19

If you're sure you can get away with it then do it. Life's too fucking short and too fucking shite. Enjoy your freedom x

E17Stowmum · 06/06/2023 18:42

This post is a spoof to smoke out the skivers and those who approve of this.
Watch it.

Hollyppp · 06/06/2023 18:47

Do 2-3 days tops. A week is too suspicious unless it’s a major illness

FindingNeverland28 · 06/06/2023 19:15

You sound “stressed” maybe a week off really is what you need.

RampantIvy · 06/06/2023 19:16

E17Stowmum · 06/06/2023 18:42

This post is a spoof to smoke out the skivers and those who approve of this.
Watch it.

Grin

It's too cold here to waste having time off work Sad
I think we got up to 14 degrees today.

Miajk · 06/06/2023 19:26

Azandme · 05/06/2023 00:12

"Sick" employee returns with tan...

They'll know. They can't prove it, but trust will be damaged.

And it's fraud, even if people don't realise it.

You mean like the wage theft most employers commit when most people work unpaid overtime?

Like the crap or minimum wage jobs where you have to pay money for your own uniform. Or like your pay being docked for making a mistake at work.

It's expected of us to be wage slaves most of our lives to make a few people rich, I say a week to enjoy living is nothing. Enjoy OP!

KisstheTeapot14 · 06/06/2023 19:57

@Travelfan2021 I asked about this sort of unpaid leave recently at work and was told it is only for emergencies and v unlikely to be approved! Had to use lots of AL this year for specialist NHS appointments (required time in London/2 weeks off for various reasons relating to DS SEN). Hmph!

Aslanplustwo · 06/06/2023 20:22

CountZacular · 05/06/2023 07:16

If a company is penalising someone for one week sick leave then they are already on rather dodgy grounds and I wouldn’t blame the OP for just taking some time off in that situation.

Penalising someone for taking a week's sick leave to enjoy the sunshine is dodgy ground????? I don't think so - taking a week off when you aren't sick however....

Florissante · 06/06/2023 20:28

Aslanplustwo · 06/06/2023 20:22

Penalising someone for taking a week's sick leave to enjoy the sunshine is dodgy ground????? I don't think so - taking a week off when you aren't sick however....

Agreed. Sick leave is for when you are sick, not for when the weather is nice.

Aslanplustwo · 06/06/2023 20:32

I'm not in the UK, but reading through this thread makes me wonder about your workplace culture. Of course there are bad employers where I live too, but I'm almost 64 and have never worked unpaid overtime, have always had any uniform I've been required to wear paid for, and have never been treated like shit. If I've been sick then no-one has queried any time off I've had - in fact my current boss recently told me to stay home for four days with a cold when I was perfectly happy to go to work. Surely there must be some decent employers in the UK?

DoeRayMe · 06/06/2023 20:35

Take Friday off, I bet so many others do for a variety of reasons !

Travelfan2021 · 06/06/2023 20:47

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KisstheTeapot14 · 06/06/2023 20:47

Thank you! I will.

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Clafoutie · 06/06/2023 21:18

Eastie77Returns · 04/06/2023 23:53

I’d say go for if no-one has to cover your work and as you mention you are never usually off. I wouldn’t take 5 days as that’s a bit long but a couple of days to enjoy the sunshine - why not. No-one on their death bed wished they’d spent more time at work.

Ignore the dramatic responses here. Basically stealing…lol.

They will be taking pay for work they have not done. It is fraud, and also presumably lying. Difficult also to think it would have zero impact on anyone or anything else, even though cover is not needed. But it seems plenty of people are ok with that and just go with ‘you do you’. 🙄

Fluffmum · 06/06/2023 22:07

Do it . Life is short

Eastie77Returns · 06/06/2023 22:07

Clafoutie · 06/06/2023 21:18

They will be taking pay for work they have not done. It is fraud, and also presumably lying. Difficult also to think it would have zero impact on anyone or anything else, even though cover is not needed. But it seems plenty of people are ok with that and just go with ‘you do you’. 🙄

OP stated no-one has to cover her work so who and what exactly is it impacting? It doesn’t sound as if she’s an essential worker if a replacement isn’t needed.

The company I work for posted revenue of over $20 billion last year and no-one has to to do my work if I take a day off. The company doesn’t provide any products that are life saving or particularly important. There is no impact to anyone or anything if I’m not there and given the CEO earns £25 million I’m really not going to worry too much about ‘defrauding’ the company of a few days pay.

RampantIvy · 06/06/2023 22:28

Aslanplustwo · 06/06/2023 20:32

I'm not in the UK, but reading through this thread makes me wonder about your workplace culture. Of course there are bad employers where I live too, but I'm almost 64 and have never worked unpaid overtime, have always had any uniform I've been required to wear paid for, and have never been treated like shit. If I've been sick then no-one has queried any time off I've had - in fact my current boss recently told me to stay home for four days with a cold when I was perfectly happy to go to work. Surely there must be some decent employers in the UK?

I have a decent employer. We are treated with respect, and there is give and take on both sides because none of us take the piss.

The work ethic of some of the posters on this thread is terrible, and anyone who did this where I work wouldn't last long.

A funny anecdote. Many years ago I had a dreadful summer cold. I was a sales rep, and going round several customers with such a bad cold was just not on, so I took the day off work. It was a lovely summer's day, and I fell asleep in the garden.

I felt much better the next day, but I looked like I had been sunbathing, so I trowelled on loads of the lightest foundation I had to make myself look really pale. I called in at the office before going out to see customers, and everyone at work said I still looked ill as I was so pale. I felt such a fraud, but I had genuinely felt really poorly the day before.

KarmaStar · 06/06/2023 22:55

I would not skive off because I fancied it,no.
But if you have no ethic of morals go for it.
Perhaps your boss will fancy not paying you one week so they can use your wages for a treat for themselves,after all,life is short.I bet you would not be very happy about that but it's ok the other way round!!

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