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To want to see women's clothes modelled on women with a bust?

53 replies

Randomusernamegenerated · 03/06/2023 18:05

I have a very large bust and I find clothes shopping difficult as it is. What isn't helping is looking online and all the models have flat chests/very small bust. I can't visualise how they'd look on me.

I realise it will cost the brands twice the price but would it kill them to show the items on a model with a bust and one without a bust so we can all see how the item fits?

OP posts:
11oclockrock · 03/06/2023 18:06

Yanbu

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 03/06/2023 18:09

Of course you are right. It seems that most designers don’t really like women’s bodies, so the clothes are not designed to flatter - or even fit- the female shape. Darts seem almost to have vanished , it’s all ‘boxy’ , that is square .

And when you do get something female like ( whisper) a dress, it is modelled by someone androgynous ( very small breasts, unusually tall) or sometimes even a bloke.

Simianwalk · 03/06/2023 18:10

Or a big stomach and no boobs. That never ever happens.

AuntieJoyce · 03/06/2023 18:11

YANBU OP

morejumpingfrogs · 03/06/2023 18:13

YANBU

Rowthe · 03/06/2023 18:14

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 03/06/2023 18:09

Of course you are right. It seems that most designers don’t really like women’s bodies, so the clothes are not designed to flatter - or even fit- the female shape. Darts seem almost to have vanished , it’s all ‘boxy’ , that is square .

And when you do get something female like ( whisper) a dress, it is modelled by someone androgynous ( very small breasts, unusually tall) or sometimes even a bloke.

😂

They rather use a bloke than someone with large breasts

thelionthewitchtheaudacityofTHISbitch · 03/06/2023 18:21

I have a reasonable bust size - helped now in my older age by a good bra. My bust size is perhaps larger than my frame size, but not excessively so. I have noticed perhaps more recently that none of the models seems to have busts (in fact utterly flat chested). That is so unhelpful - I would like to see how the dress, blouse t-shirt etc looks on women with a bust (and as a pp commented tummy too!). YANBU at all.

Willmafrockfit · 03/06/2023 18:22

i was just this minute looking up clothes on Yours,
despite going up to size 40 i think the models are all 16 or 18 size

nahwhale · 03/06/2023 18:23

I mean I get it but women without a large bust would probably like to see it on frames like their own.

nahwhale · 03/06/2023 18:24

nahwhale · 03/06/2023 18:23

I mean I get it but women without a large bust would probably like to see it on frames like their own.

Oops meant to add. And models tend to be flatter chested so it's a cycle we need more bigger bobbed models

Endlesssummer2022 · 03/06/2023 18:33

A lot of designers only know how to design for one shape - straight up and down. It’s easier to design for flat chested, no hips and flat bottoms.

Curiosity101 · 03/06/2023 18:34

I don't think it's just bigger boobs.

Brands need to branch out on a wider range of body types for their pictures full stop. Some brands have started making that change, Snag Tights for example, but not enough of the big ones. I get they want to show off the clothes to their 'best' - but surely more than 1 body type (tall and androgynous) can do that.

I feel like it would also be good for the models. Less pressure to conform to such a limited range of shapes/sizes.

TakeMe2Insanity · 03/06/2023 18:35

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 03/06/2023 18:09

Of course you are right. It seems that most designers don’t really like women’s bodies, so the clothes are not designed to flatter - or even fit- the female shape. Darts seem almost to have vanished , it’s all ‘boxy’ , that is square .

And when you do get something female like ( whisper) a dress, it is modelled by someone androgynous ( very small breasts, unusually tall) or sometimes even a bloke.

You sum it up perfectly.

Sanctimoanius · 03/06/2023 18:38

I am sure in time we will be able to use AI to see what clothes look like on our own bodies. As a short, big-boobed woman with a bit of a belly, that time cannot come soon enough.

Curseofthenation · 03/06/2023 18:43

There are just too many body types to cover. The body types they select obviously sell the most clothes or else they wouldn't stick with slim models. Some brands do have two models per clothing item but you can see how the costs would quickly add up if brands did that all the time with 5, 6 or 7 body types for instance.

In the end, I think most people prioritise good value over inclusivity. More businesses would be doing it if it made good business sense.

Endlesssummer2022 · 03/06/2023 18:45

Sanctimoanius · 03/06/2023 18:38

I am sure in time we will be able to use AI to see what clothes look like on our own bodies. As a short, big-boobed woman with a bit of a belly, that time cannot come soon enough.

I think it will go one further and the AI will design and model the clothes. Design by AI will ensure a more flattering fit for a more diverse range of body shapes.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 03/06/2023 18:47

I used to work for a well known high street chain in the buying office. The skirt buyer was a man, and used to try the stuff on himself. No wonder I could never bloody buy anything that fit me there.

Yvetty · 03/06/2023 18:48

I agree OP. There do seem to be plus sized models with larger breasts but I’d like to see size 12-16 woman with bigger boobs - just to please me!!

ThatFraggle · 03/06/2023 18:48

Bravissimo. They don't just do bras.

sparklefresh · 03/06/2023 18:50

YANBU OP. If you can only design for a straight up and down willowy rectangle you aren't a good designer. The average UK woman is a size 16 D cup I believe, and that should be represented.

AgnesX · 03/06/2023 18:53

ThatFraggle · 03/06/2023 18:48

Bravissimo. They don't just do bras.

Not clothes anymore. Sadly. Even Bravissimo use long legged models whose boobs aren't really that large despite the shop they're modelling for.

I wish they'd use short dumpy 50 somethings😁

whosaidtha · 03/06/2023 18:54

You're more likely to buy it if it looks good on the model and unfortunately clothes usually look better on slimmer people.
Plus you can't appeal to everyone. I would like shorter models as I am short. But unless your going to show each piece of clothing modelled by 10 different women of different heights and sizes it's never going to look like it does on the model.

whosaidtha · 03/06/2023 18:56

It annoys me more when they have plus sized lingerie models and they put them in bras or bikini tops that are too small.

TheWildOnesRunningWithTheDogs · 03/06/2023 19:06

I'm very flat-chested and I agree with you! Although I love Cos, they are one of the worst for this; they seem to choose the most androgynous models possible. I think it's a cheap way of making the clothes look edgier. I don't mind models being thinner and prettier than me, that's their job. But some are so unusual in their body type (compared with the typical customer) that the website photos are worse than useless.

Slushynana · 03/06/2023 19:10

I had this problem when I wanted an outfit for my sons wedding, I really loved the clothes on Nancy Mac but their model is so tall and slim that I couldn’t envisage any of their clothes on me, bought from Bombshell as all their models have boobs and hips.