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To want to see women's clothes modelled on women with a bust?

53 replies

Randomusernamegenerated · 03/06/2023 18:05

I have a very large bust and I find clothes shopping difficult as it is. What isn't helping is looking online and all the models have flat chests/very small bust. I can't visualise how they'd look on me.

I realise it will cost the brands twice the price but would it kill them to show the items on a model with a bust and one without a bust so we can all see how the item fits?

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mistrals · 03/06/2023 19:13

Popsy Clothing have professional models but they also have photos of their customers modelling too.
My friend bought a few things from them and they got in touch and asked if she would take some photos for the website if they sent her a couple of items.
She received a complimentary t-shirt and a dress, her husband took a few snaps of her wearing them and the photos were used. She's a size 20 with a larger than average bust.

I think this a great idea, minimal outlay for the company, creates loyal customers and shows how their clothes look like on different body shapes and sizes.

woodhill · 03/06/2023 19:13

Totally agree and wish they wouldn't put pockets on shirts aimed at older women

shellyleppard · 03/06/2023 19:16

YANBU..... The amount of times I have ordered a pretty dress online.....and it won't go past the girls 😐😐

Howlongwillthistake · 03/06/2023 19:26

Surprised to see COS have introduced 2 different sized models recently...the one on the right has the figure of a 7 year old, but refreshingly the left one has boobs! A start for them at least!

To want to see women's clothes modelled on women with a bust?
SparkyBlue · 03/06/2023 19:40

I agree OP and especially with the current trend of some items being very low cut. I was admiring a jumpsuit from Warehouse a few months ago and the model who was showing it was wearing no bra and completely flat chested so I knew it would be a show on me as an F cup.

FarmGirl78 · 03/06/2023 19:58

Years ago someone told me that as most fashion designers are gay men (apologies if I'm wrong!) they design clothes for models that mimic the younger male form...ie straight up and down flat chested smooth hairless bodies. They simply design clothes for bodies they'd like to see them on.

Hairbrushhandle · 03/06/2023 20:01

I think m&s have pics of outfits on customers but I think it's mainly linked to insta which I don't use.

SuperbSummer2023 · 03/06/2023 20:01

Simianwalk · 03/06/2023 18:10

Or a big stomach and no boobs. That never ever happens.

Neither does big boobs & a big stomach and short!!

Simianwalk · 03/06/2023 20:06

whosaidtha · 03/06/2023 18:54

You're more likely to buy it if it looks good on the model and unfortunately clothes usually look better on slimmer people.
Plus you can't appeal to everyone. I would like shorter models as I am short. But unless your going to show each piece of clothing modelled by 10 different women of different heights and sizes it's never going to look like it does on the model.

But mix it up a bit!

Sissynova · 03/06/2023 20:06

Howlongwillthistake · 03/06/2023 19:26

Surprised to see COS have introduced 2 different sized models recently...the one on the right has the figure of a 7 year old, but refreshingly the left one has boobs! A start for them at least!

I actually just find comments like this rude and offensive.
Plenty of women are naturally slim, it doesn’t mean we look like 7 year old boys.

Is there a need to be horrible about other women’s bodies? Does it make you feel better in some way? The comment was quite clearly trying to be negative.

Sissynova · 03/06/2023 20:08

FarmGirl78 · 03/06/2023 19:58

Years ago someone told me that as most fashion designers are gay men (apologies if I'm wrong!) they design clothes for models that mimic the younger male form...ie straight up and down flat chested smooth hairless bodies. They simply design clothes for bodies they'd like to see them on.

The vast majority of high street or higher end high street design teams are almost entirely female.

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 03/06/2023 20:10

Given the most popular size of clothing is 14-16, I think models should be that size range.

I know some of the Asda clothes were modeled on both skinny and large women but it's rare.

I want to see what clothes will look like with a slightly podgy, bloated belly ffs! 😆

thatcornishfeeling · 03/06/2023 20:15

This thread is uncanny! I was just checking online for nice v neck t shirts as I've been watching Friends Season 3 and I love them! I'm a 90s girl.

Anyway, I found one with nice sleeves in a colour I love. Unfortunately it was modelled by a bloke wearing an alice band so I didn't buy it. I was just so confused I gave up searching. How do I know if the V is modest or booby?

continentallentil · 03/06/2023 20:17

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 03/06/2023 18:09

Of course you are right. It seems that most designers don’t really like women’s bodies, so the clothes are not designed to flatter - or even fit- the female shape. Darts seem almost to have vanished , it’s all ‘boxy’ , that is square .

And when you do get something female like ( whisper) a dress, it is modelled by someone androgynous ( very small breasts, unusually tall) or sometimes even a bloke.

I find the oversized thing so bizarre - it’s impossible to get a shirt that isn’t oversized. It’s hideously unflattering - I get it’s a teen style (although I wonder what it says about attitudes to women’s bodies in Gen z) but I don’t know why it has overtaking everywhere.

Crikeyalmighty · 03/06/2023 20:17

@Randomusernamegenerated I totally agree- same issue here !

Crikeyalmighty · 03/06/2023 20:19

RIP bravissimo (clothes section) all my best bits of clobber that fit beautifully were from them!!!

Howlongwillthistake · 03/06/2023 21:19

I didn't mean to offend, I didn't however, mention it being a 7 year old boy. Perhaps a poor choice of words, but believe me I don't go around 'women' shaming, I'm a size 18 and bloody hate my fat rolls but they are what they are... it was a description.
The point I was making was the comparison between the two models...chalk and cheese. There seems to be no in between.
COS are addressing the differences in women's bodies...or starting to at least.

FarmGirl78 · 03/06/2023 21:29

Sissynova · 03/06/2023 20:08

The vast majority of high street or higher end high street design teams are almost entirely female.

I'm ignorant of these things, but aren't High Street designers simply working on basic 'theme' of what's in and what's out based on thr bigger fashion house designers? Variations on a theme?

If not, what the hell are they playing at?

GettingStuffed · 03/06/2023 21:32

Even plus size models tend to e relatively small busted,

ZillionDayStreak · 03/06/2023 21:38

I buy lovely cashmere jumpers (nearly new) from a shop that shows a photo of them on one of their employees, and gives their dress size and measurements. It’s brilliant - I can easily see if it will be too short or the V neck too low. Habe never needed to return anything.

@thatcornishfeeling I just found some good V necks for a big bust (flattering, not revealing) in Kettlewell, the cotton V.

Randomusernamegenerated · 03/06/2023 22:33

GettingStuffed · 03/06/2023 21:32

Even plus size models tend to e relatively small busted,

Exactly. Plus size doesn't always equate to large bust, it just means curvy all over (or over a size 16/18). If your busy and Belly are in fair proportion to each other your clothes will look hugely different to those of us whose boobs would walk into a room 3 days before the rest of us does.

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elevenpartharmony · 03/06/2023 22:37

AgnesX · 03/06/2023 18:53

Not clothes anymore. Sadly. Even Bravissimo use long legged models whose boobs aren't really that large despite the shop they're modelling for.

I wish they'd use short dumpy 50 somethings😁

I miss Pepperberry so much. If Bravissimo couldn't make the line work, it doesn't bode well for anyone else making clothes to fit. 😔

With Bravissimo, if you look at their bras and bikinis, they do often use models with stretch marks and lumps and bumps, which I think is magnificent.

JudgeRudy · 03/06/2023 22:44

YABU to expect clothes to be showcased on models that look like you....because then I want to see the clothes on models that have narrow waists, deep shoulders, hollow back and muscular legs. I dare say someone else wants models with skinny thighs and no waist. It would be ridiculous to see clothes modelled on ever size and shape.
Catwalk models have always traditionally tall and willowy and I'm happy with that as long as they're not unhealthily underweight. On line models (Asos, Boohoo etc)tend to be more realistic sizes/shapes and many have plus size models. I've not noticed they are particularly flat chested. I'd like to see clothes modelled on healthy weight, evenly proportioned women. I don't mean average weight/size though, as average is overweight.

Thisisbollocksmark · 03/06/2023 22:48

I very much agree. I'm short, a size eight, with an E cup. All the models are either tall and very slim or plus size. It's very hard to tell if anything will be too tight or swamp me from looking online.

What gets me is when they put little bust cups on tops and dresses. They're always absolutely tiny so I end up with my boobs being cut in half by them. Drives me batty.

PlantingMarigolds · 03/06/2023 22:49

Me too op.
Completely ridiculous that we are still objectifying skinny women with no breasts.