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Appalling grammar influx

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Schnicklefritz · 03/06/2023 08:22

NC because I am almost certain that I'm going to receive a bashing.

Has anyone else noticed the influx of threads started by posters with absolutely awful grammar? I don't mean mixing up "your/you're" or "there/their/they're". I mean entire paragraphs without full stops, capitalization, "we wasn't/I weren't", "cuz" instead of "because".

Add in standard abbreviations like "wwyd" and "DH/DC", and it makes the posts incredibly difficult to follow and in some instances, effectively unreadable.

It's only the past two weeks or so that I've noticed the increase in these posts. Is it just me?

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Gtsr443 · 03/06/2023 08:24

we wasn't/I weren't

This is East Anglian dialect. Away with your judgey twaddle.

Schnicklefritz · 03/06/2023 08:26

@Gtsr443 I'm not from the UK. Didn't know that.

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Goodadvice1980 · 03/06/2023 08:26

Perhaps some of the new posts are AI or chatbot generated?

PiffleIsTakingThePiss · 03/06/2023 08:26

Lots of text speak 'u' 'ur' etc too. YANBU but you're going to get roundly told off Grin

Schnicklefritz · 03/06/2023 08:28

@PiffleIsTakingThePiss Thus the name change, as I figured this would happen. The text speak is doing my head in!

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kangaroopelicanartic · 03/06/2023 08:29

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a basic standard of communication.

KetoQueen · 03/06/2023 08:30

YES

Along with a complete absence of punctuation which means that sentences run on and on then you have to work out yourself where the natural break would be and the other thing is half the time the sorry tale is a pile of dysfunctional nonsense or a completely pointless thread which drives me mad after all the effort it takes for my menopausal breaks to untangle but at least I suppose you know it’s legit and not done chatGBT performance now that annoys me way more even if the SPAG is fine

Dolphinnoises · 03/06/2023 08:30

It could be Mumsnet are doing an advertising campaign. Each time we’ve had a big influx there’s been usual internet writing style for a while before the grammar police have either made posters raise their game or had them backing out slowly.

ADHDDDDDDDBOOM · 03/06/2023 08:32

Yes I have noticed an influx of wld (would) u (you) and similar.

Last time that happened, it was because there were issues over at Nethuns so they had migrated over here. And it showed.

Schnicklefritz · 03/06/2023 08:32

@KetoQueen I enjoyed your sentence, but the spelling was too good!

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MandyTraynor · 03/06/2023 08:33

I've had to name change recently because of a few appalling posts I wrote after too much wine. Not a grammar issue, but it certainly could have looked that way. They made no sense, but I knew what I was trying to say at the time. Very embarrassing.

Silvergoldandglitter · 03/06/2023 08:34

Gtsr443 · 03/06/2023 08:24

we wasn't/I weren't

This is East Anglian dialect. Away with your judgey twaddle.

I'm born and bred East Anglia and didn't know this. Never heard those ever.

musixa · 03/06/2023 08:35

I haven't noticed an influx - there's always been a variation in standards. I don't judge - you have no idea if an OP might be poorly educated through no fault of their own; have dyslexia or have English as a second language.

FrogsAreMean · 03/06/2023 08:36

Totally agree with you and you’re right in saying some posts are unreadable.

I don’t even bother with the posts that have no new paragraphs, just constant rambling words.

Schnicklefritz · 03/06/2023 08:36

I'm honestly not trying to be judgemental! It was just a change that I

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Allblackeverythingalways · 03/06/2023 08:37

FrogsAreMean · 03/06/2023 08:36

Totally agree with you and you’re right in saying some posts are unreadable.

I don’t even bother with the posts that have no new paragraphs, just constant rambling words.

I close those ones.
I'm not here to read a wall of illegible twaddle.

EatYourVegetables · 03/06/2023 08:38

Chatbots have perfect grammar.

Schnicklefritz · 03/06/2023 08:38

Agh toddler smacked the "post" button.

It was just a change that I had noticed. I didn't think AI generated stuff would have errors in spelling and grammar?

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LadyOfTheCanyon · 03/06/2023 08:45

It drives me mad.
However.

Lack of a great education/ books/reading/ support from parents has left swathes of the population unable to communicate outside of text speak. However grating it may be, I want them to be able to find support and information on MN rather than feel that it's some kind of middle class club that they are being excluded from.

AutumnCrow · 03/06/2023 08:48

The ones that I've noticed recently are about well-known individuals in the news that have a spelling mistake in the thread title, usually relating to the famous individual's name. The posts express purported concerns for the well-being of the individual in the news.

I think they come from PR crisis management teams and the spelling mistakes are there to make them seem less obviously professional and more 'normal'. Except on MN they don't seem normal, but rather a bit ignorant.

Hence 'Megan' and endless variations on 'Scoffield' and 'Willibiby'. And the faux innocent declarations of, 'sorry don't no how to spell lol!' from the OPs who are presumably typing into a device that has, you know, google.

tallcypowder · 03/06/2023 08:48

I used to hate the DC, DD, DDog abbreviations but I am fine with it now. Took about 10 years though.

I also struggle to type with my fingers so I don't mind the odd coz.Blush

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 03/06/2023 08:50

Schnicklefritz · 03/06/2023 08:22

NC because I am almost certain that I'm going to receive a bashing.

Has anyone else noticed the influx of threads started by posters with absolutely awful grammar? I don't mean mixing up "your/you're" or "there/their/they're". I mean entire paragraphs without full stops, capitalization, "we wasn't/I weren't", "cuz" instead of "because".

Add in standard abbreviations like "wwyd" and "DH/DC", and it makes the posts incredibly difficult to follow and in some instances, effectively unreadable.

It's only the past two weeks or so that I've noticed the increase in these posts. Is it just me?

Yay! The weekly smug grammar bashing thread. I've been waiting for it.

If, OP, approximately 25 years into social media forums and the usage of standard abbreviations within said forums, you are having difficulty understanding them, might I suggest you may have comprehension issues? Have you ever tried reading more?

There is also, of course, the fact that this is a parenting forum, not an English language test. There ARE posts with poor grammar. There always have been. I'm an English teacher in a school, I'm not on Mumsnet to belittle people who may not have had the education I have.

It might also be worth asking yourself the question "the person using grammar incorrectly- why are they doing that?" Choose from one of the following:
a) they're thick
b) they haven't had the English language education that others have had
c) they have cognitive learning issues
d) they're not sitting an English grammar test right now, so what does it truly matter?

After you've answered that one, ask yourself this one.

When the person/people you've started a nasty, belittling, smug thread about see your nasty, belittling, smug thread, do they feel:

a) thankful that such a clever, superior being has pointed out their mistakes
b) humiliated
c) determined to do better next time or face detention
d) that you're a nasty, smug sufferer of both Muphry and Duning-Kruger.

thinkfast · 03/06/2023 08:51

The ones I've noticed are where the grammar / sentence structure is so bad, that it's difficult to understand what the OP means.

Doggymummar · 03/06/2023 08:51

I've just read a short thread that the OP has bumped as there is little response, and I can't work out from the list what she is asking. It seems to be just a statement. I was going to ask, Sorry you have few responses, but I don't know what you are asking, but it seemed snarky so I didn't.

I appreciate we don't all have the same level of education and I can usually interpret but I don't have the bandwidth to sit and try to unjumble every post.

Schnicklefritz · 03/06/2023 08:51

@LadyOfTheCanyon That's a very good point, actually. I definitely wouldn't want to discount people or have them less able to find support here because of something out of their control like dyslexia or poor education.

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