The Andrew Tate interview is being drowned out by yet more Schofield

Laughingravy · 2023-06-02T12:13:05+00:00

The interview with Tate is not only telling in terms of what an odious human being he is but surely is way more in the public interest especially to anyone with impressionable teenage sons. Yet more Philip Schofield has relegated it to a secondary story. On any other day it would be front and centrel and it really should be now.

Mochudubh · 02/06/2023 13:54

I was actually really annoyed at the BBC for doing the Tate interview. Why give the scrote more publicity?

Schofield? Meh!

Sirzy · 02/06/2023 13:55

To be perfectly honest the less attention the better for both of them is my view!

Phos · 02/06/2023 13:56

Well Joe Public are obviously more interested in Scofe.

NowItsSpring · 02/06/2023 13:59

I think the BBC Andrew Tate interview was ill-advised. We learnt nothing new but have given him a lot of unnecessary air time. I believe he recorded the interview too, so lots of fodder for him to edit and spin out to his disciples.

araiwa · 02/06/2023 14:00

You need to explain how giving Tate increased publicity will lessen his appeal to teenage boys?

WheelsUp · 02/06/2023 14:07

Tate being arrested and vile appeals to his fans as I believe that one of his recurrent themes is about the system trying to shut him up. While influencers like him are a problem, most people don't have children or teenagers so are happily living their lives without knowing about issues that affect kids like vaping, County Lines, behaviour in schools...

VisionsOfSplendour · 02/06/2023 14:09

I've heard part of the interview and imo the less airtime the vile boorish rude misogynistic gets the better

WheelsUp · 02/06/2023 14:14

You should be more concerned that the average Tate fan won't watch the interview as it's on BBC but will only see select clips uploaded to places like TikTok that will increase his likeability to fans.

Whether or not the BBC should help spread his message is a bigger question imo.

AuntieJoyce · 02/06/2023 14:19

The Tate interview only added to his cause

I agree with you re Schofield though

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Laughingravy · 02/06/2023 15:11

Point taken about him misusing the interview himself. Aside from his editing and posting on his own media I don't see this interview adding to his cause one bit.

The more parents of teenagers know about this man and then get to talk to their children about him the better. While he's pretty well known there are sure to be plenty with teenagers who are totally ignorant of his potential to do harm.

I just think it's unfortunate that both interviews are out on the same day and the one I think is more important and has much more potential to generate discussions about healthy relationships is being lost in the noise about PS.

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AuntieJoyce · 02/06/2023 15:15

Aside from his editing and posting on his own media I don't see this interview adding to his cause one bit

It’s not what you think though is it?

The woman just made aggressive points by talking over him constantly with her set questions and didn’t adapt to his responses.

My DS watched it with me and all it did was make him even more convinced that the establishment is out to get Tate

pillsthrillsandbellyache · 02/06/2023 15:20

People need to stop worrying about Andrew Tate and concentrate on what's going on in their own homes. How many homes are kids been raised in were they see mum run ragged and dad doing fuck all bar going out to work? Children seeing from infancy that men live their best lives on the backs of their family? They learn from a young age in their own home that men hold all the power. Andrew Tate just adds to that when they get older.

Outofthepark · 02/06/2023 15:21

A lot of kids these days equate popularity and airtime with power and importance so it's probably helped him. Bloody BBC, think that was very poorly advised.

Naunet · 02/06/2023 16:07

I don’t think sexual abusers should be getting a platform anywhere frankly.

hamstersarse · 02/06/2023 16:14

NowItsSpring · 02/06/2023 13:59

I think the BBC Andrew Tate interview was ill-advised. We learnt nothing new but have given him a lot of unnecessary air time. I believe he recorded the interview too, so lots of fodder for him to edit and spin out to his disciples.

The BBC was definitely ill-advised to edit the interview to try and present what they wanted to present about him

Yes, he has released a recording of the full 38 minutes and all of the comments are about how pathetic the BBC were trying to get 'their gotcha' momen

I'm afraid the interviewer was woefully ill prepared and made herself look really stupid to his fans. A lot of what she quoted was inaccurate and a joke (his fans do know when it is a joke) and honestly, it just made his fans think the Matrix is even more real.

I also believe the BBC have taken the interview down from their website because they have had such bad feedback (not in the nature of this thread)

These sorts of things really do highlight the difference in how the young generation consume media vs the legacy media like the BBC. He releases the whole thing without any editing, the BBC edit it down to tell a tale. THe audience pretty much know everything there is to know about Andrew Tate so feel some connection with him, whereas the BBC interviewer could have been any generic BBC reporter - no connection with her.

I think it was a massive own goal if the aim was to stop young people idolising him. He won. Big time,

hamstersarse · 02/06/2023 16:17

Naunet · 02/06/2023 16:07

I don’t think sexual abusers should be getting a platform anywhere frankly.

I hate to say it but this sort of comment just marginalises his fans even more.

The situation is that he has had nearly 6 months either in prison or under house arrest and there have been no charges brought against him. It is pretty unusual to be able to hold someone without charges for that long - and again, I'm afraid the authorities behaving like this only works to get him more support, as does accusing him of being a sexual abuser when there are no charges against him

Naunet · 02/06/2023 16:17

hamstersarse · 02/06/2023 16:14

The BBC was definitely ill-advised to edit the interview to try and present what they wanted to present about him

Yes, he has released a recording of the full 38 minutes and all of the comments are about how pathetic the BBC were trying to get 'their gotcha' momen

I'm afraid the interviewer was woefully ill prepared and made herself look really stupid to his fans. A lot of what she quoted was inaccurate and a joke (his fans do know when it is a joke) and honestly, it just made his fans think the Matrix is even more real.

I also believe the BBC have taken the interview down from their website because they have had such bad feedback (not in the nature of this thread)

These sorts of things really do highlight the difference in how the young generation consume media vs the legacy media like the BBC. He releases the whole thing without any editing, the BBC edit it down to tell a tale. THe audience pretty much know everything there is to know about Andrew Tate so feel some connection with him, whereas the BBC interviewer could have been any generic BBC reporter - no connection with her.

I think it was a massive own goal if the aim was to stop young people idolising him. He won. Big time,

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To be fair though, his “fans”/fellow misogynists supported him when he was charged for trafficking too, not much will change their minds because they agree with him that women are second class.

Naunet · 02/06/2023 16:19

hamstersarse · 02/06/2023 16:17

I hate to say it but this sort of comment just marginalises his fans even more.

The situation is that he has had nearly 6 months either in prison or under house arrest and there have been no charges brought against him. It is pretty unusual to be able to hold someone without charges for that long - and again, I'm afraid the authorities behaving like this only works to get him more support, as does accusing him of being a sexual abuser when there are no charges against him

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I don’t care. I’m a victim of childhood sexual abuse, how about not marginalising us by giving men like him a platform? Or does that not matter?

hamstersarse · 02/06/2023 16:22

To be fair though, his “fans”/fellow misogynists supported him when he was charged for trafficking too, not much will change their minds because they agree with him that women are second class.

I have an 18 yo DS so unfortunately have had to have a lot of conversations about AT because he is a fan. There will be many MN'ers who have teens who are 'fans'

I started off with this view but honestly, he's just a bit of a commitment phobe probably scarred from his parent's divorce but he doesn't hate women, and I would describe him as being conservative in his views about women and family - yes, he believes men should be the providers, but he respects the traditional female roles. He challenges feminism when it is very anti-men and when it is very pro-feminising men, and to be fair,that is an argument worth having - but it is not necessarily misogynistic.

I know I sound like a fan, I am not, I wish there were better role models out there for young men, but having watched most of his content and talked to DS about him in depth, he isn't as bad as is made out

Naunet · 02/06/2023 16:25

hamstersarse · 02/06/2023 16:22

To be fair though, his “fans”/fellow misogynists supported him when he was charged for trafficking too, not much will change their minds because they agree with him that women are second class.

I have an 18 yo DS so unfortunately have had to have a lot of conversations about AT because he is a fan. There will be many MN'ers who have teens who are 'fans'

I started off with this view but honestly, he's just a bit of a commitment phobe probably scarred from his parent's divorce but he doesn't hate women, and I would describe him as being conservative in his views about women and family - yes, he believes men should be the providers, but he respects the traditional female roles. He challenges feminism when it is very anti-men and when it is very pro-feminising men, and to be fair,that is an argument worth having - but it is not necessarily misogynistic.

I know I sound like a fan, I am not, I wish there were better role models out there for young men, but having watched most of his content and talked to DS about him in depth, he isn't as bad as is made out

Oh I see, you’re a sympathiser. I’ll leave you to it.

worldstillturns · 02/06/2023 16:27

" he isn't as bad as is made out"

No, he's worse. Ffs.

hamstersarse · 02/06/2023 16:28

I don’t care. I’m a victim of childhood sexual abuse, how about not marginalising us by giving men like him a platform? Or does that not matter?

I am a victim of abuse too (DV) but I don't think that is necessarily relevant here.

The problem here is that he has huge influence over young men, huge, and the BBC could really have done much better than resorting to 'gotcha' tactics and not doing their research properly. He rarely gets challenged properly because he is quick and unafraid to say things directly to people - but this interview needed someone to understand the positives of him, see what his appeal was, before examining and questioning some of his views. It was a really bad interview.

Like I say, I don't much appreciate him as a role model, but he is not what people my age most often say he is - he is funny, he is motivating, he is disciplined, and he is hard working and he does speak some sense. To blanket dismiss him as a misogynistic abuser does none of us any good.

hamstersarse · 02/06/2023 16:31

worldstillturns · 02/06/2023 16:27

" he isn't as bad as is made out"

No, he's worse. Ffs.

What do you base your opinion on though?

I am asking with genuine curiosity because like I say I have watched a lot of his content and come to my own opinion on it.

Why do you think so many young men like him?

YouJustDoYou · 02/06/2023 16:34

AuntieJoyce · 02/06/2023 15:15

Aside from his editing and posting on his own media I don't see this interview adding to his cause one bit

It’s not what you think though is it?

The woman just made aggressive points by talking over him constantly with her set questions and didn’t adapt to his responses.

My DS watched it with me and all it did was make him even more convinced that the establishment is out to get Tate

Lol. What do you think she should've asked? "Aww, Tatey, how you feeling bud?".

LifeIsPainHighness · 02/06/2023 16:36

I agree with you.

The PS obsession is wavering on scary.

Andrew state influences young boys to be misogynistic and is far more of a public concern than a man who had an affair.

I suspect homophobia is at play but that’s just me.