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To be pissed off with useless dog owners??

176 replies

Sapphire387 · 31/05/2023 23:23

This week so far:

One dog on a beach knocked my stepdaughter over in order to grab a sausage roll out of her hand. Owner came up far, far too late, to be fair he tried to offer us money to replace the food. I did say it wasn't really about the money, the dog had knocked her over (she's nine).

One dog ran up to us in a field and pissed all over my mum's bag (it was on the floor; we had stopped walking briefly). Owner not paying attention so I called him over and told him what his dog had done and he said it wasn't his fault so I told him he should keep his bloody dog under control.

I'm not a dog owner. I neither particularly like or dislike dogs. But AIBU to think that people should train their dogs out of this sort of stuff, and if they can't, they keep them on a lead? It is NOT ok to just let your dog be a nuisance to other people.

OP posts:
Chasingadvice · 01/06/2023 17:21

faffadoodledo · 01/06/2023 16:33

It's obviously bad behaviour for a dog to rip food from a child's hand. Worse still for the owner to make light.

Fir the parent the important thing is how to react. Hopefully in the myriad of cases cited here the parent calmly said to the child 'oh naught doggy.' And the story enters funny family folklore. While giving silent daggers to the owner. The worst thing a parent could do (even if they felt like it) would be to publicly rant and give the child figure fears. I'm sure that's how all the victims of food snatching g have reacted on here?

"Naughty doggy" and glaring eyes does not adequately convey how unacceptable a dog's behaviour is to the owner. Some children will be incredibly upset and frightened away so telling the owner to put their greedy, untrained mutt on a lead is the minimum.

Mygazpachoistoocold · 01/06/2023 18:07

LakieLady · 01/06/2023 12:08

Incidents with dogs on beaches are easily avoided by going to one of the many, many beaches where dogs are banned in daytime throughout most of the spring/summer/early autumn.

Except they're not because it doesn't get enforced. In Hayling Island a couple insisted it was their right to walk their dog on the beach because they'd paid to park in the carpark, despite numerous signs suggesting otherwise 🙄
On the Isle of Wight I politely asked a couple to remove their dog from that section of the beach. Apparently they hadn't seen the signs that had been conveniently placed at every entrance point to the beach.
The only way to avoid incidents with dogs on beaches is unfortunately to avoid beaches entirely.

faffadoodledo · 01/06/2023 18:18

@Chasingadvice you won't have seen lots of dogs at the mass clear ups bc we might just do it naturally every time we walk the beach in the winter. No need to be organised! Just take a sack. You know. Initiative. It's quite addictive too

faffadoodledo · 01/06/2023 18:19

@Chasingadvice 'naughty doggy' is for the benefit of your child so that they're not spooked. The glaring eyes are obv for the dog owner. My kids were never jumped on but had they been I'd have minimised it for their sake not the dog owner's

Chasingadvice · 01/06/2023 18:36

faffadoodledo · 01/06/2023 18:18

@Chasingadvice you won't have seen lots of dogs at the mass clear ups bc we might just do it naturally every time we walk the beach in the winter. No need to be organised! Just take a sack. You know. Initiative. It's quite addictive too

Oh I see. So is beach clearing exclusive to dog owners or are there other non dog owners there too? Not a special club for dog owners only?

Chasingadvice · 01/06/2023 19:00

faffadoodledo · 01/06/2023 18:19

@Chasingadvice 'naughty doggy' is for the benefit of your child so that they're not spooked. The glaring eyes are obv for the dog owner. My kids were never jumped on but had they been I'd have minimised it for their sake not the dog owner's

I did say glaring at the dog owner- perhaps you didn't catch it?

Do you never express to the dog owners it's unacceptable for their dogs to bother your children?

faffadoodledo · 01/06/2023 21:19

I just worry @Chasingadvice that some children are getting as scarred and scared by the reactions around them to the badly behaved dogs and owners (which i have totally acknowledged).
There is anger fizzing off this thread and I'd hate to see children feeling it second hand on top of what has been described as the trauma of dogs rushing up to them.
It really is palpable.
I am one of the dog owners who has said she believes folk who say they get jumped on all the time and who has acknowledged that some dog owners need to get their acts together.
But yes. The anger is palpable.

My niece is a big grown up hospital consultant now. But spent her childhood cowering from dogs and the outdoors in general because her mum was so twitchy and transferred those feelings. She now has friends with dogs and has decided for herself that the fear isn't worth suffering for.

Now I'm not saying YOU are like that. But gosh the energy on this thread. It's quite something.

And once again I have tried to be understanding. So back down please

NapoleonDidSurrender · 02/06/2023 06:01

faffadoodledo · 01/06/2023 21:19

I just worry @Chasingadvice that some children are getting as scarred and scared by the reactions around them to the badly behaved dogs and owners (which i have totally acknowledged).
There is anger fizzing off this thread and I'd hate to see children feeling it second hand on top of what has been described as the trauma of dogs rushing up to them.
It really is palpable.
I am one of the dog owners who has said she believes folk who say they get jumped on all the time and who has acknowledged that some dog owners need to get their acts together.
But yes. The anger is palpable.

My niece is a big grown up hospital consultant now. But spent her childhood cowering from dogs and the outdoors in general because her mum was so twitchy and transferred those feelings. She now has friends with dogs and has decided for herself that the fear isn't worth suffering for.

Now I'm not saying YOU are like that. But gosh the energy on this thread. It's quite something.

And once again I have tried to be understanding. So back down please

Not particularly targeted at you but I just wanted to say that not all dog-haters are scared. I just find dogs gross. Their wet tongues, licking their balls etc. People letting dogs lick their faces and sleep in their beds. I don’t want dogs licking my stuff or jumping at me. It’s a mistake to think it’s all about fear.

Random point I know!

Jantlet · 02/06/2023 06:09

It’s not a random point, the hygiene issue is important too.

bussteward · 02/06/2023 09:13

Thank you, @NapoleonDidSurrender! I hate dogs but I’m not scared of them. And I actually make a point of saying hello to neighbours’ dogs and generally being friendly, not mentioning my deal-seated loathing in front of the DC, because I don’t want to create a phobia in them as the world is full of dogs and hard to navigate if you’re scared. Unfortunately DD is small and has been jumped on and growled at so often she’s frightened anyway.

NapoleonDidSurrender · 02/06/2023 09:22

bussteward · 02/06/2023 09:13

Thank you, @NapoleonDidSurrender! I hate dogs but I’m not scared of them. And I actually make a point of saying hello to neighbours’ dogs and generally being friendly, not mentioning my deal-seated loathing in front of the DC, because I don’t want to create a phobia in them as the world is full of dogs and hard to navigate if you’re scared. Unfortunately DD is small and has been jumped on and growled at so often she’s frightened anyway.

I have hidden it too. To the extent my older teens now want a dog, esp my son. Not happening!

I would never want to see dogs hurt and abhor animal cruelty.

I just find dogs in the home gross and O I don’t think owners should laugh and let their dogs spoil picnics, steal food, burst kids’ balls and jump on people. That’s unreasonable according to some here. What can you do 🤷🏼‍♀️

PurpleParrots · 02/06/2023 10:32

Chasingadvice · 01/06/2023 18:36

Oh I see. So is beach clearing exclusive to dog owners or are there other non dog owners there too? Not a special club for dog owners only?

Not exclusive to dog owners, no. Litter picking is a common community event - those who respect our environment and our sea life are involved. Guides, Scouts, Sea cadets, ramblers, community litter pickers… anyone can help preserve our beautiful beaches and countryside. You don’t have to be a dog walker but it’s the dog walkers who do the lions share because dog walkers walk everyday and are appalled at the filth holiday makers leave behind.

Not to mention the nylon strings and metal hooks left behind by bloody novice fishermen!!

You are probably just another scummy idiot who dumps their shit on the beach thinking it will magically combust by the time your tanning session is done 🙄

FFS have some respect for our sealife!!

EggInANest · 02/06/2023 10:53

Yes ‘yet another’ thread because we have ‘yet more’ dogs with ‘yet more’ irresponsible dog owners. Of course people are sick of it.

I was in a lovely London park last week. It has a vast open field space, with trees, grass etc, and a much smaller space with ornamental gardens and ponds. This is fenced with clear ‘dogs on short leads’ notices on every gate. The fence round the ponds had noticed about nesting wild fowl, and the Friends association had put up notices to say that 3 goslings had been killed over 3 days by off lead dogs.

4 out of 5 dogs in the gated area were off leads. One was even in that ‘alert’ state, trembling and with one paw lifted that is the first stage of prey drive and the owners were laughing indulgently at him looking at a clutch of baby moorhens. I told them to hold on to him as he was about to chase. They rolled their eyes. Nice young m/c couple.

Sick of it.

But love dogs that are well managed and well trained by considerate owners.

Chasingadvice · 02/06/2023 19:29

@PurpleParrots are you okay? You seemed to go into a bit of a rant there regarding my cause of the decline of sea life. It was very out of the blue and bizarre. Have you had a mental health check recently?

PurpleParrots · 02/06/2023 21:36

Chasingadvice · 02/06/2023 19:29

@PurpleParrots are you okay? You seemed to go into a bit of a rant there regarding my cause of the decline of sea life. It was very out of the blue and bizarre. Have you had a mental health check recently?

🫣😂 Get a grip you clown! I was just pointing out anyone can litter pick if they have a mind to. Obviously you don’t. You are not alone. There are plenty of scummy litterbugs around that think the shit they leave behind magically disappears.

Have a think about what happens what you dump your rubbish on the beach and leave it. Where do you think it goes?? 🤷🏻‍♀️

gettingoldisshit · 02/06/2023 22:11

Im a dog owner op but these incidents would piss me off! If you do not have complete control of your dog and its recall then it simply should not be off the lead! It's not hard to understand!

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PurpleParrots · 03/06/2023 01:30

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Some people think a dog on lead means the dog is under control. Bollocks!!

A dog who is kept on a lead because it either -

-,cannot be left off lead because it’s vicious

or -

because the owner hasn’t bothered to teaching it recall.

I have no sympathy for dog owners who blame their dogs rudeness on “Aww he’s a rescue dog” 🙄

I’m not interested in your dog whilst it’s attacking my dog and I have to fork out for vet fees!

I hate owners who think it’s a great play opportunity for their dog whenever they spot another off lead dog.

My dog is walked off
lead (everyone’s- where appropriate). She, nor I appreciate random dogs approaching.

I am totally in agreement for a ban on extended leads. Either teach your dog to stay close, when needed, or pay for for your dog to exercise.
Your choice.

NosieRosie · 03/06/2023 02:07

Anyone who walks their dog on a lead that extends up to 30ft and thinks it’s ok is a fool. Nobody is control of a dog who is 30ft away.

I’m all in favour of banning extending leads. Either teach your dog to recall or put it on a proper lead to walk the streets.

Im sick and tired of being branded a “Shit dog owner” because some dog owners are shit.

I totally empathise with posters who have had random dogs jumping over them. I have too. I agree, it’s fucking annoying! 🤬 I don’t allow my dog to jump on me and I don’t appreciate random dogs jumping on me either.

Chasingadvice · 03/06/2023 12:40

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pookiedoodlepuppy · 03/06/2023 13:28

@Chasingadvice Your posts are really something else .

Hivaluegirl · 07/08/2023 22:42

I have an ignorant neighbour who is a dog owner. His dog regularly barks/growls at my dog and the woman laughs like it is funny saying "it's okay"
It's annoying because she/are the owner of a bull breed as am I and people like me who's dog is lovely, soft doe nor bother other dogs (because she's is scared of them especially little ones) gets tared in the same brush

Sorry for resurrecting this thread but i just had another encounter with these dikheads and their dog hating on my dog cause she's beautiful

Hivaluegirl · 07/08/2023 22:42

She/he

Goneroundthetwist · 04/11/2023 18:13

I think what you mean is, you are sick of owners who have no control of their dogs….

Skodacool · 04/11/2023 19:22

CallieQ · 01/06/2023 00:37

Yet another dog hating thread 🙄

No it isn’t, it’s a hating dogs being a nuisance and selfish, entitled owners thread.