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Did you do a double think on the grammar here?

116 replies

Awumminnscotland · 31/05/2023 10:06

My 7 yr old was reading the "blub" as she calls it on the back of her reading book and tells me that her teacher said this was wrong, that it should be "strongest". I'm afraid my eyebrows couldn't get any higher on my head and my mouth dropped. But maybe my expectations are too high?
I'm 52 and in primary didn't get taught much grammar but I knew this...
Not a teaching bashing thread just a v surprised mum and I know most mums of 7 yr olds are younger so just looking for perspective really.

Did you do a double think on the grammar here?
OP posts:
Cam22 · 31/05/2023 12:37

The word “stronger” is a comparison not a superlative. The blurb is correct and the teacher is wrong and stupid.

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 31/05/2023 12:41

The blurb is correct. As is @CharlottenBurger.

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 12:42

Awumminnscotland · 31/05/2023 11:02

Thank you. I did actually tell her to tell the teacher mummy says it's correct. I agree re the communications. But my Mother in law ( 85 )was a school secretary forever and has always said the same re teachers written communications.

What would your mil think of this:

“… teachers written communication.” ?

NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 31/05/2023 12:43

(the use of a comparative with "the" is very formal though. I'd imagine the book is quite old?)

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 12:43

Formal is not wrong.🙄

NEmama · 31/05/2023 12:46

ArdeteiMasazxu · 31/05/2023 10:08

Stronger is correct for a comparison between two. You can use strongest if the comparison is between 3 or more.

Between is only two things

NEmama · 31/05/2023 12:46

This needs to be in pedants corner

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 12:48

Comparative adjectives compare two things. Superlative adjectives compare more than two things.

Commonly, adjectives that contain only one syllable or end in 'y' use 'er' to form comparatives and 'est' to form superlatives. For adjectives ending in y, change the 'y' to 'i' before adding the 'er' or 'est'.

  • old – older – oldest
  • young – younger – youngest
  • pretty – prettier – prettiest
  • long – longer – longest
  • short – shorter – shortest
  • bright – brighter – brightest
  • close – closer – closest
  • happy – happier - happiest
Cam22 · 31/05/2023 12:49

NEmama · 31/05/2023 12:46

This needs to be in pedants corner

Your sentence would not be permitted to enter. You probably know why…

NEmama · 31/05/2023 12:50

@Cam22 😃

mamabear715 · 31/05/2023 12:52

It's correct.

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 12:53

piedbeauty · 31/05/2023 11:44

@CharlottenBurger Well, you have your Cambridge, and I have my Merriam-Webster. I'm sure the world will keep turning.

Why are you using a US dictionary for the UK? BIzarre decision. There are plenty of UK dictionaries. (And there's no need to be so snarky, ffs.)

Indeed.

Fairislefandango · 31/05/2023 13:01

For all you lovely pedants out there, I do see the green lines come up when I'm typing so sometimes that tells me there's something incorrect and sometimes I know anyway. But...I'm soo rock nd roll I just.... ignore it! I know right!!

That seems more than a little unlikely in someone who is interested enough in correct grammar to start a thread about it. There's nothing rock 'n roll about typing 'alot'. It's an extremely common mistake.

As for the stronger/strongest thing - the teacher is wrong to say it's incorrect, but it is slightly old-fashioned usage to stick to that rule. That doesn't make it a 'fake rule' though, @CharlottenBurger Confused. And yes, for British English, why use Merriam Webster?

ThatOnePlease · 31/05/2023 13:06

The comparative is correct. The use of 'the' is not.

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 13:10

ThatOnePlease · 31/05/2023 13:06

The comparative is correct. The use of 'the' is not.

Aka as the definite article, of course…

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 13:15

…aka as

RockGirl · 31/05/2023 13:58

I don't know why you are surprised.

You can get on a PGCE with a 2:2 and GCSE Maths and English at grade C.

The skills test requirement was removed in 2019 (though it was pretty basic anyway).

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 14:10

In England, perhaps.

MercyChant66 · 31/05/2023 14:22

Awumminnscotland · 31/05/2023 10:33

Interesting. I'm also child of the 70s but in Scotland so completely different here but I may just have forgotten alot!

Child of the 60s here, also in Scotland but that makes no difference to this - OP you are absolutely correct, stronger is used to compare 2 , strongest for 3 or more. I was brought up in a family of English teachers and grammar was taught from early on in primary school.

RitaFires · 31/05/2023 14:30

The stronger is a bit archaic, most people would say who is stronger or who is the strongest. If a small child was talking about who is the stronger some might think they're wrong or a bit pretentious in their choice of language. It would be legitimate of the teacher to say it's not commonly used rather than tell a child that it's wrong.

MasterBeth · 31/05/2023 14:30

"Who is the stronger" is formally correct, if a little old fashioned.

I wonder if anyone on the thread has had their judgment affected by the proximity of the half-rhyme between "contest" and "strongest" in the text?

Awumminnscotland · 31/05/2023 14:31

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 12:42

What would your mil think of this:

“… teachers written communication.” ?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

OP posts:
NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 31/05/2023 14:38

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 12:43

Formal is not wrong.🙄

No, it isn't. That's why I didn't say "which is wrong".

Elphame · 31/05/2023 14:41

Strong
Stronger
Strongest

The book is correct. The teacher is wrong

Cam22 · 31/05/2023 14:42

RitaFires · 31/05/2023 14:30

The stronger is a bit archaic, most people would say who is stronger or who is the strongest. If a small child was talking about who is the stronger some might think they're wrong or a bit pretentious in their choice of language. It would be legitimate of the teacher to say it's not commonly used rather than tell a child that it's wrong.

“It would be legitimate of the teacher to say it's not commonly used rather than tell a child that it's wrong.”

What a pointless thing to say. I think the child would be more interested in what was correct. Children are like that.

Anyway the woman was clueless and was trying to be smart. Lol

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