Aibu? DS should talk about his party politics activities in interviews?

[Theworried]

DS is at uni and applying for internships etc. in the field of finance. A lot of these interviews ask typical skill or behaviour questions- e.g. tell me a time when you have shown teamwork etc.
DS is an active member of the young conservatives and has done a lot of activities in his uni and in our local young conservative group- e.g. take an active role in meetings, canvassing support amongst young people etc.
He thinks that he should be able to use these examples in job interviews as they highlight his skills and is a big part of his life, but DH thinks he should shy away from it as it is do with party politics and is quite a divisive topic in society.
I think that DH is worrying unnecessarily and interviews would not look down upon it as he is developing skills through this activity.

@Artycrafts

How is critical thinking stifled?

Are tories so scared of justifying their beliefs they just run away crying rather than actually justify them?

A PP, who is a teacher, has posted about the staff's collective voting pattern in Brexit. Heaven forbid brexiteers could have the audacity to share their vote. Imagine a student trying to argue their reasons for their parents, for instance, voting Brexit. They would be bullied out of it, shouted down and ridiculed. The poster has already said brexiteers are thick (how thoroughly enlightening). The OP asked a question as to whether their son should mention his political experiences. Labourites have used the opportunity to go on a political rant. Not helpful, not unbiased, in the slightest.

@Artycrafts

Huh?

That's a lot of leaping in 1 weeks post

You addressed me, I answered you. My opinion. I won't facilitate any further derailing of the thread.

@Artycrafts

Your opinion is nonsense though

Absolutely this. He can deliberately not mention the party because he doesn’t mix work and politics.

I really wouldn't. I would feel that he might be one to cause division in the workplace. i wouldn't employ someone that shows a low moral viewpoint and voted Tory

What sort of company do you own? Or are you HR

Or is it hypothetical ie if you were to be in position to hire

I see the narrow mindedness is still showing. As an employer, you are governed by legislation, which protects your employee. Unfortunately, as evidenced here, the intolerant brigade will try to ignore that to suit their political bias. I would love to see the reasoning on the notes, as to why the candidate was unsuccessful. He votes Tory, so he's got poor judgement. Really? That's as peurile as it gets. Some of you have admitted you would lie, as you know (quite rightly) you couldn't get away with blatant discrimination.

As for those saying they would disown their child. What, for exercising democracy? I wonder how many of you having a go at this young lad,were the ones outraged at the arrests on coronation day. You make up the rules about free speech, as well as all other democratic rights to suit your own beliefs.

The OP has been given some excellent advice but as soon as she mentioned "young Conservative" the thread was, inevitably hijacked. Meanwhile,a young lad has been terrorising people on the streets/in their homes and videoing it for likes. There really are some skewed views on here, when an aspiring lad is trying to make a positive impression in an interview and it's that which attracts spiteful comments.

@Artycrafts

The OP has been given some excellent advice but as soon as she mentioned "young Conservative" the thread was, inevitably hijacked. Meanwhile,a young lad has been terrorising people on the streets/in their homes and videoing it for likes.

Unless you can show posters you disagree with on this thread actively cheering on the young lad TikTok case while they criticise OP's son's political affiliation, what on earth has one got to do with the other?

You seem to be suggesting some sort of hypocrisy or double standard but you're just referencing an entirely unrelated case...

"...cheering on the young lad from the TikTok case" that was meant to say, obviously.

One lad is out there doing something positive, another doing something destructive. Yet, the former has been derided with talk of parents disowning their own child,doing the same. The latter case, I could understand. It's a comparison which should be straightforward.

Yet, the former has been derided with talk of parents disowning their own child

This seems extreme and somewhat controlling.

Honestly being a member of young conservatives would probably instantly make a lot of people NOT want to hire him. Basically every professional I know, myself included, would see this as a very negative thing and instantly have him down as a bit of a twat based on politics alone. Definitely do NOT mention politics in interviews! Too divisive! I honestly would not hire someone based on this alone, if I’m being really really honest (but obvs would never admit this was the reason out loud!)

It shows poor judgement bringing politics into an interview
Just a big fat no

Leave politics out of it. Being a "Young Tory" won't bring many fans

@Artycrafts

One lad is out there doing something positive, another doing something destructive. Yet, the former has been derided with talk of parents disowning their own child,doing the same. The latter case, I could understand. It's a comparison which should be straightforward.

It's not a relevant comparison though unless you're accusing the same people who say they would disown their child if they joined the young conservatives are saying they would be pleased their son was terrorising people in their homes.

Most people (dare I say likely ALL people) who would be aghast at their child becoming a young conservative campaigner would also be aghast at their son frightening people / breaking into homes / all the other law breaking 'pranks' the tiktok lad has done.

They aren't mutually exclusive things to be aghast at. So no, it's not a straightforward comparison. It's a bizarre and nonsensical one 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Artycrafts you keep saying the left are intolerant but what do you mean by that statement?

That those on the left will not listen to opinions that are opposed to their views? Well, the right are exactly the same, so why would you be holding the left to a higher standard? Unless you believe the left are of a higher standard in general?

Many with more right wing views seem to be very attached to the notion that "everyone is entitled to an opinion" while also rejecting the fact that not all opinions are equal. For example, if someone voted for brexit becuase they thought it would stop immigration then their view was baseless and not worth listening too.

You say the leftist posters on this thread have demonstrated their intolerance of opposing views, but why should they (or anyone) have to tolerate views that are somewhere between ill-informed and completely detached from reality?

The current crop of tories are demonstrably corrupt, inept, and vile. Anyone professing to support them should expect to be challenged and, if they truly hold their opinion to be right, be able to defend their view, not just bleet that they're "entitled to their opinion".

@Thebestwaytoscareatory
For example, if someone voted for brexit becuase they thought it would stop immigration then their view was baseless

Well, quite ;)

Is "reading the mood of the country" classified as intolerance of other views now?

I'd avoid it. Any implication at all of being politically active would raise questions in most companies (I would want to check out for example, that the political involvement wasn't in some extreme group so would definitely ask questions and dig to find out exactly what the interviewee was meaning and what party he's politically active for, and what his involvement has been), and once it's clear he has strong political views, it would b a red flag.

Even if he got lucky and all the panel were conservative, it may still go against him as a lot of right wing companies are trying to shed the 'conservative boys club' image. If the panel r not Tory, then they won't want him as it's hard to look past that. Like it or not 'young tories' also have a bit of a reputation, and it's not favourable.

Personally I think he shouldn't mention it. I don't think it's a plus point. But that's just my view.

The arrogance is seeping out of your latest essay.

That is different though. He's not an activist, but someone wanting to learn more about politics and would have taken a role with any party. In the OPs case, her son is strongly and actively conservative and their will be assumptions made about this.

Less than 200 words over 4 short paragraphs is not an essay. I know that the current fashion is to redefine words to suit yourself, but it's shit and I wish that people would stop doing it.

OP - I'm a manager in the Civil Service - we have many many reasons to hate the Tories.

But if your son was to attend an interview, and use examples that demonstrated e.g.
teamwork, stakeholder management, or (absolutely key) delivery, no one on the panel would have the slightest problem with those being in a Young Conservatives context. If there were concerns that he might not understand the requirement to leave that at the door if he got the job, those would be addressed at the offer stage, assuming he was the best candidate.

I really am shocked by the responses on here implying your politics need to be 'okay' for you to be allowed to exchange your labour for money. To those people - you ain't Lech Walesa, and this ain't Gdansk.