Sick of some Cornish people bleating on as though they are the worlds only tourist destination

[Endlesssummer2022]

Just read the article below and found a few gems such as these:

’ have you ever wondered where the local people live? Or have you noticed that many of your holiday neighbours are recognisable in the narrow lanes of the pretty fishing villages because they are the same people you live near in London?’

and…

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage…* *And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff. ‘

What patronising bollocks. So Londoner’s (as those are apparently the only people who visit Cornwall) are so untraveled and boorish we need to be told not to be rude to people, pay tips, not to smash glass bottles in sand, that we’ve bought all of their houses, that it’s ‘their’ land and we’re the ones who are rude?

I’d already decided I wouldn’t go back there after how some of them carried on during Covid but this article has pissed me off. Why would anyone go there when they can go to equally lovely places in the UK/World and not be treated with contempt?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

These accents really won't all sound the same, you're just used to them.

And no, those places don't count as London. Of course you don't notice your own accent, noone does.

@DdraigGoch

Here’s another - all those tourist taxes to fund public toilets in every city, town, village and tourist beach car park! It’s no use people complaining about wild toileting, when there is no alternative!

The trouble is, good as these suggestions are, all 6 Cornish MPs are Conservative and unlikely to be in favour of additional taxes, or anything that limits capitalism/enterprise.

Cornish people don’t even like Cornish people from other towns in Cornwall let alone the rest of the world 🤣

Another idea for how to improve things - ban disposable BBQs. They are not only a hazard to people but cause far too many moorland fires.

"Local towns only doing local things for local people with no incomers is fine if you fancy living in a small village in 1332"

Exactly. Times change. Communities adapt. It happens everywhere.

The Cornish people sound very similar to West Coasters from the South Island, NZ.

Funnily enough, I'm descended from both of them, lol.

This is very true 😂

What part of the problem is that visitors seem blind to the levels of poverty in Cornwall. There is a radio 4 programme called the patch. It generates a random post code and a reporter has be go there and find a story. She the reporter pops down from London to redruth and refused to believe the taxi driver never takes the locals to the beach, that there are kids there who have never seen the sea. Only when she visited the nearest beach and failed to find anyone from Cornwall did it seem to dawn.
So you are earning minimum wage from Easter to the end of September. Every house that comes up for sale is bought by someone, who if you are lucky doesn't airb&b it and visits during the weekends.
Your kids will only have tourist based low paid jobs because there are I mines anymore and the fishing industry was stuffed by European quotas. The civil service is tiny, the pensions departments, passports, DVLA have all gone where there is more political pressure.
And people take glass on to beaches, let dogs on beaches where they are banned, park where they like, are rude and demanding, and the locals are expected to smile all the live long day
ps I'm from Somerset! Watch Corkie on YouTube, his song Ginsters paradise

No part of this is specific to Cornwall other than beaches - there’s poverty all over the country, there are many areas where there is very little work, property prices have gone crazy everywhere, unfortunately people just have to move to where the work is. Many key workers who live in London cannot afford to live in London - nurses, fireman have to commute in from 2-4 hours away.

My dear relative suffered from racism when she was living in Cornwall. Really badly. She was different, you see. From the 'wrong' side of the Tamar! That's Devon. That told me all I needed to know about Cornwall. That and Brexit, of course.

This sounds like AI wrote it.

If only it was just cornwall! I live in a fashionable part of Somerset and every summer it’s silly season. Journeys take so much longer, not because of traffic jams but because you’re inevitably stuck behind someone who has no idea about how to drive in the countryside. I went from one part of Somerset to another on Friday and it took 3 hours to do a 50 mile drive.

It’s annoying but it is what it is and there’s no point in getting wound up about it. If I didn’t live here I’d want to visit too, it’s lush.

I’m sorry to say, but a great number of people would be better off moving away from Cornwall if they want to escape poverty.

Dh was born in a beautiful part of Wales. But there are no jobs other than min wage or public services. He had to leave all he knew behind and move to London for a well paid job. Now he is in the position that if he ever (we) ever wanted to move to the beautiful area he is from, that he could afford a nice house. It’s always been that way, the nicest houses are bought by those from outside the are.

I have lived in Cornwall for about 40 of my 66 years, but the rest was at university in Bristol, then in London and New York, so I don't chew straw. Rural poverty and lack of academic ambition is a huge problem here. When I returned in 1990, I was among the first to WFH with a fax machine, and the village we still live in is just nicely off the beaten track but fairly convenient. The house DH bought with money earned overseas is currently on the market (updated) for six times what he paid for it in 1988, and then we re-roofed it, and still lost money when we sold. As a child, I lived on the Lizard. I took my DC there at 5, to show them where I grew up. We talked to old people who said, well if you know that you must be x, and I was. But the places that I used to go to, to swim etc, are now gated villages for well-to-do holiday home owners (and a chalet bungalow in such areas will now set you back a £1million-plus). The best paid employment where I grew up will be the public sector where there's a national pay scale. A nurse will be near the top of the local pay ladder.

And yet, people flock here. They pay at least £1.5k a week in the holiday months to rent a house for a week, often much more. And they distort any rational economic model.

I think there should be a tourist tax, as I have just paid in Spain and Portugal, of a pound or two per bed per night, to mend the potholes and upgrade the water/sewage to cope with the influx each year, and to pay for more bins and better street cleaning. We did not see a single rubbish strewn town or road in about 3,000 km of touring.

And I think the rules on small business rates and nights let should be revisited to clamp down on the large numbers of people claiming tax/rate reliefs for let property when it's not actually available a lot of months. It's not a business venture unless you have a decent occupancy rate. There were a lot of disgruntled business people in Cornwall when so much COVID relief was paid to owners of private holiday homes, mainly used privately, and paid to people not resident in the county.

On the whole I think that the Welsh Government are incompetent and have all of the wrong priorities. On this though, I think that they've got it spot on.

Ban second homes and if people are found to be using subterfuge to own two (or more) homes, take all their homes from them. Ban AirBNB.

Aye but there’s really not. You’re whinging about being priced out of affordable housing, places being rammed to all fuck and people leaving a mess. This happens in London too. Have you seen the price of houses here??! And guess what; rich people rent them out to poor people for £££ rather than live in them. None of this is unique to Cornwall. Get over yourselves.

Politics of envy?? That is unless you were to inherit two houses and give them to someone more in need than you.

Councils and successive government won't boot tenants out of large council houses when the family the tenants raised are long gone . Why don't they?

What happened to squatters, they would occupy these empty homes in London. There's more empty homes than ever owned by overseas investors and never occupied. We've no cojones these days unlike the Spanish

https://costaluzlawyers.es/blog/squatters-rights-vs-owners-right-a-common-clash-in-spain/

This thread gives me hope that people are getting fed up with coming to Cornwall and we can get back to normal levels. I live in a block of apartments and have gradually seen almost all friends and neighbours evicted so their home can become an airbnb. Until you live surrounded by homes that are empty most of the year you don’t know how soul less it is. Then the rest of the time you have a bunch of rude entitled idiots on their “holibobs” who think that they can make noise till the early hours, let their children shriek and run around the stairs, lift and foyer “because they are on holiday”, I always make sure to give those guests an loud early awakening when I get up for work at 6.30am.

And for those trotting out the tired old line that locals sold the homes in the first place - what about the new builds? Family estates are not safe from the air bnb greedy twats. Bereavements - families have to sell the home to divvy up the inheritance - due to rising prices people who live here can’t afford to buy their siblings out.

Oh, and the tourism pound - oh yes, so much of that stays in Cornwall - not. All it is good for is crappy seasonal jobs, most of which are understaffed due to nobody being able to afford to live on those areas, or able to afford to commute in. None of my family work in industries relied on by tourism - there are other jobs here you know other than bowing and scraping to sacred tourist.

I am so glad that the touridiots are starting to realise that they are being ripped off.

London tourism is different though. The tourists tend to stay in the centre you don't find many in Finchley. Just picked it as I used to live there. The people who have second homes in London are wither MPs or people who can spend £12 million, they are not buying up ex council flats or starter homes.

In central London there is nothing worse than being behind a Japanese tourist when you are trying to cross the road, there can be no traffic and they still wait for the green man.

And the locals tend to avoid Abbey road as if is radioactive.

One thing Cornwall should do is what has been done in the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands and that is to have some mechanism to either give locals priority in housing or only allow a certain amount of property to be occupied by non Cornish or people who have not lived there for a certain number of years.

My brother's children, all born and raised in Cornwall have or will have to live 'up country' for work. They all have degrees and are or will be professional people.

Do people in Cornwall have above an average bereavement rate? They are all selling to rich Londoners due to inheritance apparently. No owner is selling their home for an inflated price to a non-local out of greed. Not one.

The victim mentality and whining is really unattractive.

I don't know anyone who drives in London. Too busy and nowhere to park. And the public transport is world class and 24 hour We live in Zone 3 and only use the car to go out of London. Now I'm an old lady I get free public transport too, over-60s Oyster Card.