Sick of some Cornish people bleating on as though they are the worlds only tourist destination

[Endlesssummer2022]

Just read the article below and found a few gems such as these:

’ have you ever wondered where the local people live? Or have you noticed that many of your holiday neighbours are recognisable in the narrow lanes of the pretty fishing villages because they are the same people you live near in London?’

and…

‘Despite what you may have read, we Cornish do welcome visitors and are happy to share our love of our land with you. But it might help if you do a bit of research – Cornwall is fiercely independent and has a proud and unique history and heritage…* *And try not to be rude to local people. If you’ve been asked to not drink from a glass bottle on the beach, there is a reason for that. Don’t forget to tip waiting staff. ‘

What patronising bollocks. So Londoner’s (as those are apparently the only people who visit Cornwall) are so untraveled and boorish we need to be told not to be rude to people, pay tips, not to smash glass bottles in sand, that we’ve bought all of their houses, that it’s ‘their’ land and we’re the ones who are rude?

I’d already decided I wouldn’t go back there after how some of them carried on during Covid but this article has pissed me off. Why would anyone go there when they can go to equally lovely places in the UK/World and not be treated with contempt?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/welcome-to-cornwall-please-dont-ruin-it-for-us-local-people

So the people in Cornwall (and Wales) who voted for Brexit weren’t actual Cornish (or Welsh), they were ‘incomers’ aka ‘Londoners’! Lol.

The tourist pound doesn't stay local, most of the businesses are either in the hands of very few, and of those a significant number are upcountry or international.

So who staffs the business then? Or are people commuting for the summer?

Visiting Cornwall isnt charity work to help the poor little locals.

What would help locals is less second homes to help prices of housing stock and less cars on the road which wlarent designed for high traffic tourism.

Some shopkeepers benefit from tourism.

Tourism might be a big revenue generator but probably not for the majority of people that actually live there. Those getting the most money from tourism probably don't live there.

Tourist pounds are all very well but most of the jobs they support are minimum wage jobs.

The areas that voted leave in wales were predominantly the areas where there are more english speaking people like wrexham etc. The more welsh speaking areas like Gwynedd voted remain.

Im not sure that's enough to state confidently that the overall vote was leave because of English people or even english speaking people. Correlation doesnt equal causation and all that.

It is annoying though to come from a farming area and hear about how welsh farmers all voted leave even though they got the EU subsidies when the reality was the leave votes came more from the towns than the rural areas, and only 1.8% of workers in wales are famers/agricultural workers so they couldn't be responsible for the majority voting leave.

Students and the comfortably retired up here. It serves as an interesting seasonal hobby for them and the flexibity suits the students. For others (i.e. me) that are trying to crack the heritage sector (in those particular tourist attractions) it makes up one of several jobs.

This.

I live in Bournemouth. During the height of the pandemic, we had to declare a state of national emergency due to the amount of people descending on us, with no fucks given whatsoever to the local people they were spreading COVID around to.

Pandemic aside, I hate the summer months here.
We pay a premium in our council tax for the general maintenance of the beach, yet do we get to enjoy it during the lovely weather?
Not unless we want to battle with thousands of others who DON'T have to pay the premium.
Then we also have to pay to use the pier on certain months, so they can charge tourists.
Bugger off! I live here! I object to having to pay for something I use on the crappy months for free just so they can milk the tourists further.

On top of that, we also have to deal with buses being packed, shops being rammed and everything just being generally more awkward due to everyone wanting to use the town for their jollies.
Then we get told we should be grateful for tourists. No. No I'm not. I'd move tomorrow if I could.
I genuinely hate where I live.

Sorry, meant to write 'major indendent'.
Not 'state of emergency'.

Still shite.

Etc, no it doesn't. The jobs are seasonal and low paid. You have no idea.

The vast majority of tourists money goes up country. Please, do a little bit of research before you post such ignorant rubbish.

Something I have also noticed is that many of those who complain most vociferously are those who moved to Cornwall themselves. Maybe it’s because they haven’t been able to cash in on the housing boom.

Cornwall is a lot like London in many regards. SOME people with perfectly ordinary jobs have ended up making millions on property by virtue of being born at the right time.

My aunt was a primary school teacher, as was her husband. Now in their 60s, they’ve sold their house for 1000% increase. They bought it in the early 00s for £150k and it’s just sold for £1.5mil. They’re now moving to Central London with the view of having a fun 10-15 years or so before moving back down to sleepy Cornwall.

If you look at Gwynedd, the place where there most native Welsh speakers reside, they voted remain and it tends to be the pattern in other places in Wales where Welsh is spoken in a higher percentage.

God the ignorance. As @Daftasabroom most tourism and leisure jobs are unreliable and very low paid. They're practically poverty wages and a lot of young people are stuck at home with their parents, unable to move out.

Given how often and fervently the Cornish vote Conservative they clearly have no problem with free market economics or survival of the fittest housing policy so should stop fucking whining.

Anyone who lives in / close to university areas will know the burden of extra populations.

@mumda it also brings in a huge amount of revenue and educated people in an area. Cornwall is impoverished for not having a dedicated university in the whole region (I don't count the Falmouth campus of Uni of Exeter as a separate university as it is very limited in range).

Unfortunately Cornwall voted Brexit, even though it was one of the regions who had most to lose. The most cited reason was "immigration fears." What immigrants? There are hardly any immigrants from overseas in Cornwall compared to most of the U.K. Now they are finding there is nobody to do seasonal work in hospitality or agriculture.

We go to Cornwall every other year. Anyone who says the locals should be grateful for poorly paid seasonal jobs is just thick.

Displaces local people by upward pressure on rents.
Creates a lack of affordable housing for local people.
Net jobs to a poor neighbouring area is usually zero (Like Ardwick and Brunswick next to Manchester University)
Often causes parking chaos during term time.

The change in an area is usually subtle but horrific until it's fully taken over and then it's just nasty.
There are no benefits for local populations.

In pretty tourist areas schools end up shutting, shops close down (apart from maybe a convenience store).

Lots of other places have poorly paid jobs. It's not exclusive to Cornwall.

Or university towns in tourist locations... Of which there are plenty!

Indeed. @Letsallthinkofaname this morning on the news there was mention of a protest with celebrities in the Lake District grumbling about the excess water population going on.
I hope none of them went to the loo during their stay in the Lake District.