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Baby next door crying for a few hours most nights - what would you do?

76 replies

PollyIndia · 23/05/2023 12:28

So as the thread says, the 18 month old baby next door is left to cry in the middle of the night sometimes for up to 2 hours. Because he’s quite old to be crying like this, he winds himself up so it sounds like he’s going to be sick - he’s clearly so upset. It’s a different kind of crying from the newborn crying. I never complained about any of the newborn crying because that’s what new babies do, but this feels different. It’s been going on since Feb, so not continuously since he was a newborn. Both parents are NHS doctors, and I have spoken to them but they said there’s nothing they can do as he’s just being naughty and they don’t want to encourage him by bringing him into bed with them. She suggested I sleep downstairs on my sofa but that definitely isn’t an option for me! I guess I’m someone who never left my son to cry it out, even when I was sleep training him I went in and put my hand on his chest so he knew I was there. So I’m kind of at a loss. I have excellent earplugs but still I get woken up almost every night.
So my am I being unreasonable is: yes you are being unreasonable and you should suck it up, no you’re not being unreasonable and this is what I would do. Thank you for any tips and advice. I’m a lone parent and always have been so it’s just me, so it’s not even like I can send anyone else in to have a word with them. I also run my own business which takes a lot of headspace, so I’m struggling with the lack of sleep.

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sociallydistained · 23/05/2023 14:27

My son is 15 months and sleeps through but has has various nights due to teething or regressions where he's woken up crying and no way I could leave him for longer than a few mins. The main reason he'll wake in the middle of the night and cry now is overtiredness and it would be bloody cruel for me to leave him. The next day I've put him to bed early to help and it's solved the problem. It sounds like he is permanently overtired and need of some comfort.

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 14:30

veryleafytrees · 23/05/2023 13:53

*Ooooh touchy!

Yes, children who only get to see their parents for an hour on weekdays are suffering parental neglect. It’s just a fact. Childcare can’t match a parent’s love.*

You are speaking from a place of privilege and your view is really quite ridiculous. You've obviously never witnessed, or been around any children experiencing true neglect.

Parents have to work to pay bills, buy food, buy clean clothes. I am grateful that I can set my own hours. The friends I have that have to drop their children off at 8, and pick them up at 5.30 really hate it but need to be able to keep a roof over their children's heads, keep them warm, clean, and fed.

If you want to spend time with your children there’s always universal credit 🤷🏾‍♀️

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 14:32

TheMoops · 23/05/2023 13:58

If they’re both doctors, he’s probably being dropped off at nursery at 8am latest and picked up at 6/7pm and probably only has half and hour or so before bed with his mum. He’s feeling (and actually being) neglected. Poor child. I’d put a call into the relevant authorities.

You have absolutely no proof that this is true. What a ridiculous post

Oh yes, I forgot. Most female GPs work part time.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/28/just-one-four-gps-works-full-time-new-data-reveals/

So hopefully he is getting enough time with mum.

Just one in four GPs are working full-time

The head of the Royal College GPs said the job is too stressful, with patient satisfaction at an all-time low

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/28/just-one-four-gps-works-full-time-new-data-reveals/

Retrain12345 · 23/05/2023 14:33

My NDN baby cried for hours every night for almost 2 years.

Nothing wrong with him and he did stop eventually. Not that it’s very helpful to you right now! I would raise it again in the hope they could move rooms or something.

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 14:34

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Littlepiglet123 · 23/05/2023 14:35

Obviously if they are not with the child this is cruel. That being said they may be with the child. One of our children were like this, all the whole in my husband's arms or sometimes mine.

2bazookas · 23/05/2023 14:35

I also run my own business which takes a lot of headspace, so I’m struggling with the lack of sleep.

I'm sure two doctors feel the same.

Spacestace · 23/05/2023 14:37

2bazookas · 23/05/2023 14:35

I also run my own business which takes a lot of headspace, so I’m struggling with the lack of sleep.

I'm sure two doctors feel the same.

Perhaps they could parent their child then and attempt to settle them or to move them to another room so that they don't cause more people to lose sleep over it? I know people are inherently selfish but fuck me they have at least an element of control over it but OP doesn't.

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TheMoops · 23/05/2023 14:47

So hopefully he is getting enough time with mum..

And dad of course. They're equally important.

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 14:49

TheMoops · 23/05/2023 14:47

So hopefully he is getting enough time with mum..

And dad of course. They're equally important.

Yes but the point is female GPs work part time. Her doctor husband probably works full time. Hence less time with DS.

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 14:49

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Why do you say that? Reporting you.

TheMoops · 23/05/2023 14:50

Yes but the point is female GPs work part time.
All of them?

Her doctor husband probably works full time. Hence less time with DS.

And less judgement apparently 🙄

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 14:52

TheMoops · 23/05/2023 14:50

Yes but the point is female GPs work part time.
All of them?

Her doctor husband probably works full time. Hence less time with DS.

And less judgement apparently 🙄

“Most”.

You need to brush up on your reading comprehension, dear.

TheMoops · 23/05/2023 14:53

“Most”.

You need to brush up on your reading comprehension, dear.

No 'dear' you need read what you've written.

You omitted the word 'most' from your sentence.

SouthLondonMum22 · 23/05/2023 14:53

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 13:46

Ooooh touchy!

Yes, children who only get to see their parents for an hour on weekdays are suffering parental neglect. It’s just a fact. Childcare can’t match a parent’s love.

The reason to report is because he is crying for hours during the night and not being comforted. If he’s hungry, feed him. If he’s teething, get the calpol out. Don’t just leave a baby to cry for hours.

It isn’t a fact at all, it’s simply your opinion.

Should those with demanding careers such as doctors just not be parents then?

caringcarer · 23/05/2023 14:54

AdamRyan · 23/05/2023 13:00

I'd keep a diary and complain to the council, same as any other noise pollution
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/noise-nuisances-how-councils-deal-with-complaints#noise-at-night-warning-notices

They can invest in sound proofing if they are hell bent on leaving their toddler to scream

This.

TheMoops · 23/05/2023 14:55

Should those with demanding careers such as doctors just not be parents then?

Apparently they should quit and claim benefits instead 🙄

SouthLondonMum22 · 23/05/2023 14:57

TheMoops · 23/05/2023 14:55

Should those with demanding careers such as doctors just not be parents then?

Apparently they should quit and claim benefits instead 🙄

Imagine if all doctors did that? The NHS is already in crisis.

Great plan. 😂

LeevMarie · 23/05/2023 14:57

YANBU, OP. I agree with a pp - you need to make a nuisance of yourself here. The mother suggesting that you sleep on the sofa is testament to them not taking your compaint seriously.

When DS was this age, we had a few weeks of him waking up screaming and it was horrible. We also had a next door neighbour who was a cardiac specialist at the local hospital and I kept imagining that disturbing his sleep might lead to him making a really serious error at work! I know that's unlikely, but sleep deprivation has such a terrible impact on your rationality of thought. I used to pick DS up and take him downstairs, leaving all of the lights off, just holding him. No playing, no interaction. Still sending the message that it was nighttime, but at least I'd tried to minimise the disturbance to next door.

They sound like total arseholes.

Sissynova · 23/05/2023 14:58

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 23/05/2023 13:35

If they’re both doctors, he’s probably being dropped off at nursery at 8am latest and picked up at 6/7pm and probably only has half and hour or so before bed with his mum. He’s feeling (and actually being) neglected. Poor child. I’d put a call into the relevant authorities.

'Quick social services, this poor baby is being raised by two doctors so must be neglected'.

TheMoops · 23/05/2023 15:01

SouthLondonMum22 · 23/05/2023 14:57

Imagine if all doctors did that? The NHS is already in crisis.

Great plan. 😂

Haha i know! Madness eh?

Thedogscollar · 23/05/2023 15:01

ADHDDDDDDDBOOM · 23/05/2023 12:54

I'd be sticking some evidence based information through their door about prolonged crying, brain development and attachment.

It would be a cunty thing to do, but not as cunty as leaving an 18 month old to cry because they are "naughty"

I'd do this. They should know better. Prolonged crying is not good for babies.
Naughty at 18 months old!! Fgs they have no understanding of being naughty. Plenty of evidence of poor and lazy parenting though.

Hatscats · 23/05/2023 15:05

Poor kid

Chypre · 23/05/2023 15:09

Living in a semi, neighbours have 2 kids - 3y and I think 5y or 6y. The 3-year-old (born in lockdown) still cries every ingle night, for about 40 mins. He is crying for "mummy" (I can hear the word), but I clearly can hear her going to his room every night, yet still he cries. The other night the mummy there was screaming and crying for him to "stop, please stop, I'm tired". Can't judge her - 2 young children, full time job, house renovation going on, etc. I guess some kids are just like this, and there is nothing that can be done.