Apparently in 2030, 45% of women ages 25–44 will be single and childfree. Do you think this will happen?

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https://medium.com/hello-love/study-predicts-45-of-women-will-be-single-by-2030-1fbc99bad6a8

Came across this article.
And as much as I (single/childfree woman) would like this to be true, just so there would be more like-minded people and the stigma of being single and childfree woman would lessen.

I really don’t think this is going to happen.
Most people are still higgly conventional and traditions seem to stick in strong.

And also: putting young age 25 is jist silly, by the next 5-10 years most of those women will be married/have kids.
And what I’ve seen happening in dating life is that labels have changed, but it’s still the same old, same old.
Many insist they are ’casual’ or have areagment or new word for dating, but they are basically just plain old dating/in a relationship.

Yes.

However, as you mention, statistics that include 25-40yr olds and their parental status are pretty meaningless as even if in a snapshot of time those people don't have kids or a partner, there's a very high chance they will get one and have kids as they move throughout their twenties and thirties.

I'd be more interested in women over 45 who are single and childless/childfree or women who are 70 who've been single and childfree for a set number of years.

Someone can be single when this snapshot is taken and then find a partner the next week they're with for the rest of their lives.

It's like daft stats about the percentage of people who have one child only when those surveyed are of childbearing age. Yes, every eldest kid who has younger siblings was an only child at one point, most don't stay that way.

Most people are still higgly conventional and traditions seem to stick in strong

Do you imagine women only have children because its conventional and traditional?

Crap, I forgot to say that the article is written in a horrible way and mocking the topic.

I meant to say that I only posted in to show that I didn’t pull the numbers or this study from my backside.

The wording of your post a little odd - suggesting that women only get married and have kids because of tradition and convention.

My DH is the best thing in my life and I love being married. All options should be celebrated!

I think the numbers will be higher than they are now, for sure.

Many of the factors that have compelled women to partner up or have kids in the past become less influential (over certain demographic groups or women) over time, and I suspect that trend will continue. They say that the more educated a woman gets, the less likely she is to have kids at all. Says a lot, really.

presumably the same percentage of men will also be single and childless?

No wonder people don’t want to get married and have children anymore. We don’t want to make sacrifices or endure unpleasant times for the sake of something greater.

Modern society has driven us further away from the values and structures that truly bring fulfillment in life.

God, the sanctimony.

Anyway - I don't know. I suspect there are a fair number of women who'd like to have kids but can't afford it. I also suspect there'll be a fair number of women who have kids and then be single (which doesn't seem to be factored in to this article at all).

But I also think that being childfree by choice is increasingly popular - kids are extremely expensive, can be tyrannical tedious company, and may not fare well in a contest against, say, career goals or extra-curricular activities. Not to mention the climate crisis - I can't have kids but I wouldn't have them, knowing that they'd reach adulthood at a point where there may be warfare over water, for god's sake.

If it leads to single childless women being less overlooked by society/politicians then I'm all for it, honestly. I'm nearly 40 and have never once regretted not having them - it looks like my worst nightmare!

I have advised my DC not to have any. They might not listen to me, of course. But they also think they won't be able to afford them.

it isn't surprising given how having children impacts a woman's career

I agree that most people are conventional however convention is a shifting thing and if it becomes the norm to be single and child-free then those single and child-free people will be following convention

I'm afraid your post sounds a bit sneery towards women who you appear to believe only choose to be in relationships/ have kids because they are highly conventional and traditional.

No wonder people don’t want to get married and have children anymore. We don’t want to make sacrifices or endure unpleasant times for the sake of something greater
Marriage typically involves women making sacrifices whilst men reap all the benefits, women only put up with that because they had little option, now that women have better options they are taking them.

I imagine women will feel less forced to 'settle' for loveless marriages as the only source of security and status in society. But when you read some of the threads on here you realise how many women would rather be with anyone, no matter how obnoxious, than remain single. That is quite sad and hopefully an attitude that is gradually disappearing.
The statistic being quoted seems very high though.

Yes I think it will be the case. Meeting partners later, house prices, having freedom to travel, build a career etc.
we were told we could have it all. when the reality is that’s bollocks. Well, we can, if you’ve got family support, a well earning career. But most of all a partner who believes in teamwork who won’t fuck off.
theres alot to be said for being child free and the stigma is going

As a pp said it's not a meaningful stat as most women have babies later these days.

What you want is to look at 50 year old women and see how many are childfree/how many children they've had as they will have completed their families.

I certainly think the number of births will reduce. But it should - there are too many people in the world and we need to reduce the population before climate disasters start killing us off.

But that's bollocks really, isn't it? Marriage for many women has many many benefits. We do have options, and we still choose marriage and children much of the time.

I can't see what benefits I personally would have as an unmarried childless woman that I don't have now. Or what I've given up, exactly.

If people want to marry (or not)and have children, great. If they don't, great. But lets not pretend either one is inherently better for women.

Are you saying it's not generally accepted that marriage benefits men significantly more than it benefits women?

[b]And as much as I (single/childfree woman) would like this to be true, just so there would be more like-minded people and the stigma of being single and childfree woman would lessen.[/b]

If we are to believe recent research that was published in Guardian, the reason for not having children for majority of women is that they did not find a suitable partner, so I very much hope this won't turn out to be true.

I have two cousins who are single and childfree.
One is 45, never married.
One is 38 who was divorced at 30.

Both are happy despite family pressures to settle down. It’s very uncommon in our culture to be single and childfree despite the gender. Most of us have been prepped and primed from a young age to get married and have children.

It just means unmarried. Surely only a tiny number of 25yos now are married?!

Most late 30s women I know are unmarried but lots of those in relationships/ cohabiting.

Child free, maybe. Single, I doubt it. Why do you think that you wouldn't be like minded with people who have children? I have never found this to be an indicator of personality.

Personally I find a person's childfree or otherwise status the least interesting thing about them.

The evidence suggests that single, child free women are generally happier and live longer. That does not mean that married women with children can't also be happy but statistically speaking single women seem to fare better.

archive-yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/should-women-stay-single#:~:text=A%20number%20of%20studies%20report,and%20compromises%20than%20married%20women.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert