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To ask what one thing you would ban to help the environment?

422 replies

AngryBirdsNoMore · 21/05/2023 09:29

Following on from @GADday’s well meaning thread about disposable sanitary products being an option to phase out to help the environment - what one thing would you ban to help the environment?

Let’s not get into sanitary products again. That thread makes clear that disposable sanitary products are probably here to stay for a range of reasons…

Ill go first:

Private planes. I’m struggling to think of any reason why they’re necessary especially for short flights.

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/05/2023 20:01

Lilifer · 21/05/2023 19:46

You and me both. My let them eat cake comment up thread was in response to the Judy fucking walk/cycle brigade who are bad enough but there's also that anti human view where people are actually hinting at culling older people and pets that is truly disturbing.

Right… @Lovecleansheets hasn’t been back to expand on their plans to line up granny for composting the minute she gets a cough.

Fluffy40 · 21/05/2023 20:05

Hot tubs, bloody awful things

StayGoldenPonyGirl · 21/05/2023 20:05

There's a difference between culling people, farm animals and pets and instead just not breeding more/prolonging unhealthy and unhappy lives.

I don't think anyone wants to murder your gran and stamp Fido to death but looking at making sensible medical plans before or as illness occurs and clamping down on animal breeding is sensible.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/05/2023 20:14

StayGoldenPonyGirl · 21/05/2023 20:05

There's a difference between culling people, farm animals and pets and instead just not breeding more/prolonging unhealthy and unhappy lives.

I don't think anyone wants to murder your gran and stamp Fido to death but looking at making sensible medical plans before or as illness occurs and clamping down on animal breeding is sensible.

making sensible medical plans before or as illness occurs

Do you/did you do that with your children?

Pestispeeved · 21/05/2023 20:16

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/05/2023 20:14

making sensible medical plans before or as illness occurs

Do you/did you do that with your children?

DH and I have made plans and discussed it with the children. Why wouldn't you?

ThankmelaterOkay · 21/05/2023 20:16

Only using a roast chicken for one meal.

TheHateIsNotGood · 21/05/2023 20:17

Shampoo and beauty products - that'll kick em in the arse enough to find more environmentally-packaging for their products pretty quickly.

FergalforPM · 21/05/2023 20:26

Ban on changing your kitchen and bathroom due to fashion - we put zilliions of perfectly serviceable stuff in skips every day just because some people don't like the look of it.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/05/2023 20:27

Pestispeeved · 21/05/2023 20:16

DH and I have made plans and discussed it with the children. Why wouldn't you?

No, about your own children. As in if they had significant medical issues.

FergalforPM · 21/05/2023 20:27

ThankmelaterOkay · 21/05/2023 20:16

Only using a roast chicken for one meal.

😂

MaggyNoodles · 21/05/2023 20:28

Yarn bombing.

SideBob · 21/05/2023 20:41

InanimateObjects · 21/05/2023 19:01

... it's not 40 billion log burners producing that carbon dioxide, it's factories.

How can you not see how circular and apathetic your reasoning is?

Every person on the planet has 6 log burners? 🤔

Chinas pollution comes from manufacturing. Very clever of you.

ThankmelaterOkay · 21/05/2023 20:42

FergalforPM · 21/05/2023 20:26

Ban on changing your kitchen and bathroom due to fashion - we put zilliions of perfectly serviceable stuff in skips every day just because some people don't like the look of it.

Waste is an integral part of capitalism.

SideBob · 21/05/2023 20:44

Mrsblobby12 · 21/05/2023 19:28

'nobody needs to see a relative abroad '. Yeah, fuck grandma, just let her rot. These threads always attract some really terrifying posters who would ban anything other than living by candlelight eating gruel.

This comment reminds me of a thread on here about a year ago where someone said they killed a spider in their house. Then there's dozens of posts from people saying it's disturbing' to kill any living thing, including flies.

You're not disturbed by this thread, enough with the melodrama.

SideBob · 21/05/2023 20:45

Correction: 'terrified' 😂

Mrsblobby12 · 21/05/2023 20:56

I don't think you get to tell me what I am and what I'm not.

StayGoldenPonyGirl · 21/05/2023 21:03

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/05/2023 20:27

No, about your own children. As in if they had significant medical issues.

Yes, of course, XH and I talked about it.

Would I execute my disabled DC? Of course not! You must be able to understand the difference.

Making your own decisions when appropriate to decline care not in your own interest/ DNR is not the same as wanting to murder kids ffs.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/05/2023 21:11

StayGoldenPonyGirl · 21/05/2023 21:03

Yes, of course, XH and I talked about it.

Would I execute my disabled DC? Of course not! You must be able to understand the difference.

Making your own decisions when appropriate to decline care not in your own interest/ DNR is not the same as wanting to murder kids ffs.

But you’d be ok with encouraging your own mother to do the same? No, I guess I don’t understand the difference in this context. I mean we’re talking resource consumption, right?

it makes far more sense to compassionately dispatch children that will consume far more resources than an old person that is only sick in the last couple of years of a long life. Right?

StayGoldenPonyGirl · 21/05/2023 21:24

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/05/2023 21:11

But you’d be ok with encouraging your own mother to do the same? No, I guess I don’t understand the difference in this context. I mean we’re talking resource consumption, right?

it makes far more sense to compassionately dispatch children that will consume far more resources than an old person that is only sick in the last couple of years of a long life. Right?

Well, no, I'm never going to agree with dispatching children - the premise of the thread was not to remove all consumption. I wasn't even the original poster advocating against prolonging life in dire circumstances. I just found it so absurd that people were suggesting not having pets automatically meant exterminating all current animals and looking at the concept of prolonging life at all costs meant slaughtering old people. It was ridiculous.

I am personally conflicted over euthanasia/ removal of care due to the possibility of being pressured by family. But it's not something to discount because you are pretending people have a bloodlust to kill grannies. My own granny wanted to pass long before she was able to and my mum does want to choose when (chronic illness) but will most likely have a undignified...and yes, being plain...pointless expensive and resource heavy end absolutely no one wants.

FuckthatFrank · 21/05/2023 21:25

AngryBirdsNoMore · 21/05/2023 09:29

Following on from @GADday’s well meaning thread about disposable sanitary products being an option to phase out to help the environment - what one thing would you ban to help the environment?

Let’s not get into sanitary products again. That thread makes clear that disposable sanitary products are probably here to stay for a range of reasons…

Ill go first:

Private planes. I’m struggling to think of any reason why they’re necessary especially for short flights.

Animal agriculture

olderthanyouthink · 21/05/2023 21:26

Not rtft

Kids magazines with tat

Toy tat vending machines

Any toy that cannot be repaired or last as long as the material lasts (stupid electric drum toy that didn't last a 6 months but the plastic will be here in 500years)

Driving a 5 seater care with one person in it

Companies bringing out a new clothes collection ever week.

Most holiday tat, mainly the shit like whatever day baskets and themed clothes that can only be worn for a week before it's just odd.

olderthanyouthink · 21/05/2023 21:28

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/05/2023 09:59

How can you realistically ban fast fashion when all it physically is is cheap fashion and what makes it ‘fast’ is the people who wear it once and throw it away? What is fast fashion to one person is just clothes to someone else.

There's cheap clothing and then there's bringing out something new every week. Trends used to be a long term thing (6 month seasons and spanning a few years) and now it's week to week.

olderthanyouthink · 21/05/2023 21:34

Any product not fit for purpose, companies should be fined for making stuff that doesn't last a reasonable length of time.

Eg a pram should last 8 years (2/3 kids worth of use), a pram should not break or not be fit for purpose by 12 months because it broke with normal use or it has a puny seat that wouldn't actually fit a toddler.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 21/05/2023 21:51

StayGoldenPonyGirl · 21/05/2023 21:24

Well, no, I'm never going to agree with dispatching children - the premise of the thread was not to remove all consumption. I wasn't even the original poster advocating against prolonging life in dire circumstances. I just found it so absurd that people were suggesting not having pets automatically meant exterminating all current animals and looking at the concept of prolonging life at all costs meant slaughtering old people. It was ridiculous.

I am personally conflicted over euthanasia/ removal of care due to the possibility of being pressured by family. But it's not something to discount because you are pretending people have a bloodlust to kill grannies. My own granny wanted to pass long before she was able to and my mum does want to choose when (chronic illness) but will most likely have a undignified...and yes, being plain...pointless expensive and resource heavy end absolutely no one wants.

No the premise of the thread is “what would you ban”. Clearly granny and fluffy are on that list for people.

The point of my questions are to point out to those that are keen to get rid of things they don’t like is that it’s totally emotional based on things they don’t value and fuck everyone else if they have a different opinion because someone sitting back in their comfy life being a keyboard eco warrior is more righteous than the next.

I want people like @Lovecleansheets to think twice before offering granny up to the alter of “the greater good” because there are batshit people that will jump on that idea without thinking the consequences through.

So thank you for being realistic.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 21/05/2023 21:53

olderthanyouthink · 21/05/2023 21:34

Any product not fit for purpose, companies should be fined for making stuff that doesn't last a reasonable length of time.

Eg a pram should last 8 years (2/3 kids worth of use), a pram should not break or not be fit for purpose by 12 months because it broke with normal use or it has a puny seat that wouldn't actually fit a toddler.

I think this is a really good point, so many things I've picked up in places like the pound shop like toys or tools are just so flimsy they are broken after a couple of uses. I have learned from this and not bought from there again, but these shops are stocked to the rafters with this badly made stuff.