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To ask what one thing you would ban to help the environment?

422 replies

AngryBirdsNoMore · 21/05/2023 09:29

Following on from @GADday’s well meaning thread about disposable sanitary products being an option to phase out to help the environment - what one thing would you ban to help the environment?

Let’s not get into sanitary products again. That thread makes clear that disposable sanitary products are probably here to stay for a range of reasons…

Ill go first:

Private planes. I’m struggling to think of any reason why they’re necessary especially for short flights.

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SmurfHaribos · 21/05/2023 12:54

Plastic grass.

SmurfHaribos · 21/05/2023 12:57

Dogs and other carnivore pets

InanimateObjects · 21/05/2023 13:01

EmpressaurusOfCats · 21/05/2023 12:38

And I'd make public transport way chapter to use. Currently, even taking into account the cost of tax/insurance/mots/services/petrol it's still cheaper for me to drive to work than it is to get a bus and a train. How can that be right??

Both cheaper and more reliable. I’m in London so if one route doesn’t work I’ve usually got an alternative but there are far too many places where it doesn’t work that way - and the frequent train cancellations, for whatever reason, are currently a bloody pain in the neck.

Train travel per mile into major cities in Europe costs a fraction of what it does in the UK.

unsync · 21/05/2023 13:02

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/05/2023 11:05

Are frisbees exceptionally bad? Or do we need to ban balls as well? Maybe they could make biodegradable frisbees.

Frisbees as per the pic get caught around the necks of marine mammals and cause horrific injuries and slow painful deaths. They should be banned from beaches.

To ask what one thing you would ban to help the environment?
unsync · 21/05/2023 13:04

Blankspacehere · 21/05/2023 11:42

May I ask what's the issue with Frisbees? Not being snippy; genuinely curious.

This seal was lucky, it was rescued and the frisbee removed.

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elevenplusdilemma · 21/05/2023 13:06

Disposable vapes.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 21/05/2023 13:14

AngryBirdsNoMore · 21/05/2023 12:41

Did you get anywhere?!

Not unless the theory is that car owners should be penalised by not being allowed to eat cheesecake.

maryberryslayers · 21/05/2023 13:23

Things that effect males. Fed up of it being female and childrens products that get banned or looked on disapprovingly.
Paper straws don't work for toddlers and I don't want to do anything with my san pro other than put it in the bin.
I don't see men using reusable condoms or ensuring the golf balls they loose or ping in to water are biodegradable...

InanimateObjects · 21/05/2023 13:36

HoboSexualOnslow · 21/05/2023 11:38

Golf courses

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Users37 · 21/05/2023 14:09

InanimateObjects · 21/05/2023 10:48

In a population collapse?

And how would you do this, enforced abortions?

What population collapse? The world population is growing and reached 8 billion last year! I haven't even suggested reducing the UK population - just maintaining it with a 2 child limit per woman.
The Earth is becoming unliveable on, for humans and (fast) for other animals. Increasing the population isn't exactly an answer to that, is it? Education and contraception would be the starting point. We should look at financial incentives too.
Or would you prefer a denial of what's happening, as the world burns around us and more and more animals go extinct?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/05/2023 14:12

unsync · 21/05/2023 13:02

Frisbees as per the pic get caught around the necks of marine mammals and cause horrific injuries and slow painful deaths. They should be banned from beaches.

Thank you.
So it’s the ring frisbees specifically, not all frisbees.

BatsHaveButtcheeks · 21/05/2023 14:15

Average speed camera zones and smart motorways. I feel these cause more tailbacks and harsh braking/acceleration, than if you let people get on with it

Fake grass and plants

Fireworks, lanterns, log burners

Mysticguru · 21/05/2023 14:24

Banning the manufacture of jeans and cotton products.

SideBob · 21/05/2023 14:35

The sad fact is whatever we do won’t make a jot of difference until China etc. take drastic measures to reduce their carbon output.

Where was your plastic grass made @Cheesecakeandwineinasuitcase?

Your answer to pollution is 'who gives a crap, china is worse' when they are the ones making the things we consume... it's not 40 billion log burners producing that carbon dioxide, it's factories.

How can you not see how circular and apathetic your reasoning is? I take it there's no point helping poor people in the UK because people in India have it worse too?

HinnyInAPinny · 21/05/2023 14:47

notsayingmuch · 21/05/2023 09:35

I don't think banning things is the way forward. I would love to see a deposit placed on every recyclable drink can and bottle and have some form of reverse vending machine where you can pay them in for a credit on an app. Even if the drinker didn't put the can into the machine, it would increase the chances of someone else picking it up and recycling it.

We have these in my home country. You put your bottles in the machine and it pays a certain amount of cents per bottle.
The machine then gives you a voucher for the total amount to spend in the shop where the machine is.
I used to save all my bottles until I had a couple of black bags full, then trade them. I used to use the voucher towards my shopping, it could be anything between 20 and 50 euro's worth.
My family back home still save theirs up to cash in for a large voucher.
The pensioners and kids love it, you will often see them out collecting the ones left laying in the streets.
The local councils even put bottle trays on the lamp posts for people to put their bottles in if they were out and about so the pensioners and kids could collect them easily.
They put the idea for machines forward here in the UK, but the government ( I think it was Cameron at the time ) mooted it for some ridiculous reason.

Loria · 21/05/2023 14:54

Users37 · 21/05/2023 14:09

What population collapse? The world population is growing and reached 8 billion last year! I haven't even suggested reducing the UK population - just maintaining it with a 2 child limit per woman.
The Earth is becoming unliveable on, for humans and (fast) for other animals. Increasing the population isn't exactly an answer to that, is it? Education and contraception would be the starting point. We should look at financial incentives too.
Or would you prefer a denial of what's happening, as the world burns around us and more and more animals go extinct?

In the UK we're already at 1.56 per woman so we're well below your target. That's below population replacement level btw.

The population is increasing because lifespan is increasing. But the global birthrate is decreasing and has been for decades.

notsayingmuch · 21/05/2023 15:02

ReviewingTheSituation · 21/05/2023 11:31

This is coming... google 'deposit return scheme'. Starting in Scotland first. It's going to be a right royal PITA.

Whereas now you can put all your drinks containers in your home recycling, you'll have to take them all (intact - no crushing or damage to the label) to a return point and feed them in individually. For them to be taken to the same place they would be if you put them in your household recycling. So it just creates huge inconvenience.

People's behaviour won't change out of home - single use bottles will still just get bunged in a bin.

The whole scheme is madness and it's going to cost millions.

The reason I want this is because the cans and bottles that I collect every week are NOT put into home recycling. They are left under bushes and in the woods by local teenagers and rough drinkers. I am one of the few who bothers to go and collect them. If it was incentivized then some other kids might go along and grab the recyclables leaving me to just pick up the plastic bags and other crap they leave behind.

Blomonje · 21/05/2023 15:17

Your answer to pollution is 'who gives a crap, china is worse' when they are the ones making the things we consume... it's not 40 billion log burners producing that carbon dioxide, it's factories.
It’s a valid point though. China is bothered about economic development not pollution. They won’t stop manufacturing plastic tat. And selfish people won’t stop buying it. Our government needs to ban it. But then China will just sell it to other countries. So everyone needs to ban it. And I can’t see that happening, and it’s out of our control anyway. So we might as well just enjoy the ride while the boat is sinking.

Ladykryptonite · 21/05/2023 15:26

Batshavebuttocks, tail backs are caused by cars

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 21/05/2023 15:28

Blomonje · 21/05/2023 15:17

Your answer to pollution is 'who gives a crap, china is worse' when they are the ones making the things we consume... it's not 40 billion log burners producing that carbon dioxide, it's factories.
It’s a valid point though. China is bothered about economic development not pollution. They won’t stop manufacturing plastic tat. And selfish people won’t stop buying it. Our government needs to ban it. But then China will just sell it to other countries. So everyone needs to ban it. And I can’t see that happening, and it’s out of our control anyway. So we might as well just enjoy the ride while the boat is sinking.

Well, personally I would like less plastic crap in our own rivers, so I don’t think trying to get a grip on it is entirely pointless regardless of what China does.

Rightnowstraightaway · 21/05/2023 15:29

Hell121 · 21/05/2023 11:06

People against flying - I’m assuming you have all your family in this country and have done all the travelling you want to do?

I have family abroad and would like to do more travelling. If it was a choice between seeing my family or all flying being abolished because that's what it takes to save the planet, I'd choose the latter. I'd either move to be near my family or accept I would rarely see them. As was the case until about 100 years ago.

I would ban fossil fuels
I would ration clothing and possibly food.
I would ban individually wrapped food items like sweets.
I would ban all disposable wipes.
I would ban disposable swimming nappies and probably also disposable nappies.
Ban tea bags. Use leaf tea.
Ban coffee pods.
Ban bottled water in countries with safe drinking water.
I expect I'd ban some construction projects and insecticides / agricultural practises too but I don't know much about it.

I recently went to an exhibition on London Fog. No one replaced their fires until they were forced to, even though the smog was killing people. It took decades. People don't want to be inconvenienced and mostly won't change unless forced or bribed.

CurlewKate · 21/05/2023 15:32

When I say I would ban bottled water in countries with safe drinking water, it's not just the plastic bottles. It's the "water" miles and the damage to the natural water sources as well.

georgarina · 21/05/2023 15:33

Billionaires

Atishoos · 21/05/2023 15:40

Barbeques, both disposable and fixed. The smoke from them in a neighbourhood setting is horrendous. Any day now they will be going again and my washing and my nose and ears (from the hilarity and accompanying BBQ beer fun) will be destroyed.

Oh and what about NOISE pollution? That is becoming very irritating now with speaker phones and selfish idiots using the speaker in buses trains and so on.

I'm turning into Victoria Meldrew. I knew it would happen one day.....

Storywriter · 21/05/2023 15:43

Car lights automatically coming on during the day. Buses with internal strip lights on during the day. Offices / schools / public buildings with lights on continuously during the day. Businesses with external flashing neon signs on during the day.

All of these especially when it's sunny!

I also object to all of these on behalf of migraneurs and those with light triggered epilepsy.