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Sunak says we have 'moved past' resenting people for being rich

90 replies

theDudesmummy · 19/05/2023 23:39

Wtf. I guess peak capitalism has been achieved. Well done capitalists. Nauseating.

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itsgettingweird · 20/05/2023 05:49

ReignOfError · 19/05/2023 23:54

I’ve never resented anyone for being rich - my closest friend is a multi-millionaire. But I don’t for one moment believe they understand what life is like for the the rest of us, and particularly for the poorest. And in Sunak’s case, I don’t believe he even cares.

This.

My friends and I all have different wealth. Some have millions and I live in a HA flat!!!

None of that matters to us and o don't believe it matters to most of the general population.

What bothers me is a) when someone doesn't accept people have to choose between heat and eat and b) that they are making the richest richer and blaming the poorest for their circumstances during a CoL crisis and when it's government decisions that have kept wages low.

Aishah231 · 20/05/2023 05:56

I don't resent people for being rich. I do think the corporations particularly need to pay their fair share in tax. Businesses need educated workers, roads to get their workers to work, health care to keep their workers healthy etc. We live in an inter dependent system and no one deserves to be a billionaire at the expense of 10s of millions of other people.

pompomdaisy · 20/05/2023 06:01

No I just resent being governed by corrupt , lying and out of touch individuals. Money may have been the cause. Or it may be parents who gave them an over inflated sense of their self importance. I don't care.

JamSandle · 20/05/2023 06:07

I dont begrudge anyone being rich. I do begrudge them making decisions that make the rest of us poorer.

musixa · 20/05/2023 06:08

Is this the 'Royal We'?

frankgu · 20/05/2023 06:14

I resent the ones that avoid paying taxes!

Gtsr443 · 20/05/2023 06:16

I don't resent rich people if they've made their money ethically.
It's tax dodgers and shysters I don't like and a lot of them happen to be rich because it's the tax dodging and shysterism that made them rich in the first place.

Mutabiliss · 20/05/2023 06:19

VashtaNerada · 20/05/2023 03:16

I don’t resent people who are rich. I resent people who are rich and actively work to make lives harder for the poor by depriving public services and the welfare system of funds. Hth Rishi 🙄

This.

I don't believe Sunak is the slightest bit interested in other people. He didn't go into politics to try to improve lives, or use his position for good. He sees it as a business opportunity.

frankgu · 20/05/2023 06:19

I don't resent rich people if they've made their money ethically.

Good point & a lot have just inherited it from people who did things that weren't ethical

DIYandEatCake · 20/05/2023 06:40

I resent the vast inequality we have that can have people working equal hours earn vastly different amounts of money. I hate this ‘just get a better job and earn more’ attitude - the world needs care assistants and teaching assistants and cleaners just as much if not more than company executives, and they shouldn’t be punished through low wages, but valued and earning enough to live on. The truth is that minimum wage is nowhere near enough to live on comfortably, never mind buy a house, and that’s what’s going to breed the resentment. People are trapped into paying hugely inflated rent to rich landlords, and hugely inflated bills to rich companies - the wealth’s all going the wrong way.

GreenwichOrTwicks · 20/05/2023 06:42

frankgu · 20/05/2023 06:14

I resent the ones that avoid paying taxes!

Have you never paid a tradesman in cash? Loads of hypocrisy.

Talapia · 20/05/2023 06:54

Swansandcustard · 20/05/2023 01:24

He has it wrong. It’s not resentment of the rich. It’s the resentment of the rich who are rich through circumstance, ability to evade expenses they should morally incur and insistence ‘there’s no magic money tree’ when they themselves have several such orchards, and proclaim to be ‘doing their bit’, ‘working hard’ and ‘already paying loads in tax’

how many homes can you live in at once
how many cars can you drive at the same time
can you not do the maths of this
do you not recognise when plenty has crossed over to excess

This.

Rich people will use every available loop hole/law to avoid taxes of all sorts. Ensuring they remain super wealthy.

Most of society just pay their taxes. They don't own and let multiple properties, avoid CGT, play inheritance laws, have offshore companies etc. Poor people don't have investments, stocks& shares etc warning extra money for them.

It's not a fair system at all. There is no way the wealthy in this country can relate to people who, need to keep their heating off, love on a diet of jacket potatoes, go without etc.

I work in a school and see more children now unable to afford new school school etc, when the old ones have holes in. Even a £10.prinark pair is now unaffordable to many.

curtainsfringe · 20/05/2023 06:55

@GreenwichOrTwicks I haven't actually? We aren't all like you! 😆

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 20/05/2023 06:56

Why would I resent someone for being rich? Good for them. It's not healthy to resent someone because they're doing better than you.

curtainsfringe · 20/05/2023 06:57

I think resentment comes from some people's actions rather than just because of money. So I would resent the slum landlord or drug baron or yes the person doing everything they can to avoid paying tax!

Gtsr443 · 20/05/2023 07:01

We could do with a bit more Victorian-style philanthropy - the super rich trying to outdo each other with good deeds instead of "Look at my fucking huge yacht."

itsgettingweird · 20/05/2023 07:06

DIYandEatCake · 20/05/2023 06:40

I resent the vast inequality we have that can have people working equal hours earn vastly different amounts of money. I hate this ‘just get a better job and earn more’ attitude - the world needs care assistants and teaching assistants and cleaners just as much if not more than company executives, and they shouldn’t be punished through low wages, but valued and earning enough to live on. The truth is that minimum wage is nowhere near enough to live on comfortably, never mind buy a house, and that’s what’s going to breed the resentment. People are trapped into paying hugely inflated rent to rich landlords, and hugely inflated bills to rich companies - the wealth’s all going the wrong way.

This.

It's so hard to reckon that 3 years ago all the people who were "key" workers to the country and expected to keep it running through a global health crisis are the very same people who aren't considered important enough to be paid a decent living wage or having a decent standard of living.

My friend said at the time we were tattling off to work daily "it's because they think we're dispensable". She may have had a point.

Alexandra2001 · 20/05/2023 07:11

We need the wealthy, they are essential, people are basically greedy, there has to be incentives for folk, they then employ people pay taxes etc etc.

But if they wish to use methods to reduce their tax bills, these should be available and freely available for all of us but they are not & the very people with the power to limit tax avoidance are the same people who benefit from it.

So they keep low rates for themselves whilst more and more of us pay higher rate taxes on a fraction of the wealthy's money.

imho Sunak has no idea how ordinary people live their lives, he is a free marketeer, very keen on Brexit and believes that the poor only have themselves to blame...... if he gives them any thought at all.

Sunak uses a private GP, we now learn these are becoming increasingly more popular @ £550 per hour...... so basically we will see GP services go the same way as Dentistry... all under the Tories watch.

Abhannmor · 20/05/2023 07:20

I don't resent them , or even envy them tbh. Most people probably don't give them a second thought.

We just don't want to subsidise their lifestyles with expense accounts , dodgy non dom schemes , government grants etc all of which the mugs on PAYE stump up for.

After all they and/ or their companies get the benefit of health , education , transport and other services like anyone else.

PinkRobotDuck · 20/05/2023 07:29

Ed Sheeran is worth 683 billion at the last count.
There was a programme on TV about the richest people - can't remember who presented it so can't look it up - but his conclusion was that if you tax them they'll just move somewhere with less tax. You need a global enforcement on tax.

daisychain01 · 20/05/2023 07:30

On this theme, Sunak isn't the only one.

Ann Widdecombe has a "let them eat cake" clueless, empathy lacking, victim-blaming moment when she said that people have become used to low food prices over the years, that they don't have a right to low prices and if they can't afford a cheese sandwich they shouldn't buy one. Nice one Ann, as a Christian, you really scored a blinder there lovey.

I had steam coming out of my ears Angry

being rich shouldn't mean you lack a social filter but so many politicians are f*ing clueless as to how they come across.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 20/05/2023 07:30

Lemieux3 · 20/05/2023 03:59

That's not true at all. What some people resent is rich people, getting richer at the expense of poor / middle income people.

I agree that some people resent rich people getting richer at the expense of poor/middle income earners.

But I still think my statement is true. There are also too many people with the attitude of ‘if I can’t have it, no one can’.

One does not preclude the other. Don’t say my statement ‘is not true at all’.

5YearsLeft · 20/05/2023 07:33

Sigh.

I’m in Switzerland right now but my friend in Edinburgh sent me a picture of a food package. And instead of a cash prize or a nice summer holiday or a car or, well, anything else really, they were running a sweepstakes to pay “one lucky winner’s heating bill for all of next winter!”

I mean, if that’s not a dystopia, what is? And I think the people who see that package and think, “Dear god, that’s bleak,” but then enter the sweepstakes themselves because it’s true, they did have to ration their heat last winter, find it a bit difficult not to dislike Rishi Sunak and his half a billion dollar net worth. I don’t think they have the time or energy to actively resent him, but when they do think of him, it’s not fondly.

waltzingparrot · 20/05/2023 07:38

Fererr · 20/05/2023 00:54

I resent the increase in inequality and a system which produces such statistics:

Total wealth of UK billionaires

▪️2012: £212 Billion
▪️2022: £653 Billion

But there's also far more billionaires so that's misleading - it's not like for like.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 20/05/2023 07:47

Maybe he meant to say that HE has moved on from resenting the rich as he has leap-froged over them on the UK rich list.