To have been really put off ASDA by the way they're treating their staff

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I think it's terrible to ask staff to take pay cuts in the current economic climate. It has really put me off shopping at ASDA in future. AIBU?

Any links on this? YANBU if that's the case. They're low paid anyway.

https://news.sky.com/story/7-000-asda-staff-could-face-the-sack-unless-they-agree-to-a-shameful-pay-cut-union-claims-12884128

It has massively put me off - I've always thought of ASDA as having quite a friendly image, before this.

Tesco is the same, getting rid of people (like cleaners) and asking floor staff to pick up cleaning duties etc. Since they are all involved in charities with their customers money they get nice tax cuts and big 4 is also propped up every year by 11 billion pound of taxpayers money,even with their record profits.

There is no getting away from it tbh,they are all raking it it inc energy companies petrol companies etc- only ones “feeling the crunch” are the normal working people.

ASDA is a bottom of the barrel supermarket. This isn't that surprising.

There is no getting away from it tbh,they are all raking it it inc energy companies petrol companies etc- only ones “feeling the crunch” are the normal working people.

Yes it feels like this is what's happening - definitely with the energy companies. And supermarkets trying to squeeze staff, I mean £11 per hour in London is not loads, I think this is including that they're trying to reduce pay for night shifts too? I feel sorry for the staff I really do.

This has been going on for years - ever since Walmart bought it and set about destroying the unions (they banned unions and had to have the British courts "explain" to them that we don't do that in the UK), management has progressively chiopped away wages, conditions and union membership. Haven't set foot in one for 20 years and won't be back any time soon.

@Quveas - Walmart haven't owned asda for a few years. It's owned by a couple of brothers from Birmingham

The people who bought ASDA didn’t do the best deal, and they were undercapitalised ( so DH says, anyway, it’s his area of interest). So now they are having to claw back some money from the only available source.

Sorry, Blackburn Lancashire, not Birmingham

I work for Morrisons. We get paid minimum wage unless you are a team leader when you get 30p an hour more. We're hoping for a pay rise in October.

I interpreted it that there's some stores outside of the M25 that attract the 60p an hour additional weighting, not in London, and the cut off point means there's stores down the road that dont get the premium. I should imagine that causes disharmony and recruiting issues.

I'm not saying I support it, I work nights in a supermarket (not ASDA) and fully sympathise with the staff. I thought ASDA were one of the higher paying supermarkets now.

I guess the higher management feel drawing the line at M25 makes it easier for them to justify, though the staff will feel they need to match the 60p everywhere then load for within M25.

The wider argument about capitalist companies screwing over workers etc aside - that specific article is about ending a London-weighting style arrangement from what it says. With staff in the South East, but outside the M25, being paid 60p an hour more.

I am always slightly bitter about location-weighting because I live in Bristol, and supposedly the South West isn't that expensive a location to live in - but Bristol bloody is! We've got the worst rental/housing situation outside of London. Where's our location supplement!

Not heard about Asda , but I did read that the managers in pizza express are being told ' to do more ' and they will be cutting back on the staff that do the waitressing / waiters etc.

Even where there's a discrepancy between stores, that's a problem the company has created itself. Asking people to take a pay cut right now or get sacked must be causing horrendous stress for people who are already quite low paid. I don't think that's fair.

Ah so they are removing an allowance which many companies have already removed years ago?

It's not a 'pay cut'

Tesco pay £11.02 an hour. That’s ok surely?
Cleaning staff are contracted out there’s a morning cleaner and an in store cleaner but they don’t cover all the hours - so staff clean up spills themselves anyway most of the time.

*Ah so they are removing an allowance which many companies have already removed years ago?

It's not a 'pay cut'*

It literally is if you are bringing home less money each month for the same hours.

My last company had this hot spot allowance and when hiring new staff we had to say it's a nicety ( which it was) which could increase, decrease or be removed, at any time

My new company had it taken away years ago according to current staff

ASDA do pay a Nightshift premium on top of the £11, midnight to 5am £2.54. (Just found a night job ad)

Walmart still have an equity investment with ASDA even though the Issa brothers own the majority now. The standards of employment by ASDA are abysmal. Their Contract 6 is disgusting and they've even stopped the annual bonuses for everyday staff (shelf stackers, customer service, counter operatives, porters etc) which although was small, certainly helped a tiny amount. They no longer give vouchers at Christmas and they don't pay for bank holidays where they close, it comes out of annual leave. There used to be an excellent staff canteen with discounted fresh food for all staff, now there are only machines with full price branded goods. They are a joke.

I’ve had experience of Asda staff being fiddled before, this was when I worked in a different role.

full time worker went part time, but had a weeks annual leave between the change. The store told her she’d only be paid for 3 days as part time now. That’s not how accrued annual leave works and she’d not taken annual leave for 6 months. It wasn’t until I questioned her about it she realised.

I think all the big companies are at it - stealth or overt pay cuts, squeezing the workers to maximise profits and presumably encourage people to leave through attrition to employ cheaper workers without having to do redundancies.

I won’t be shopping there.

Energy companies, supermarkets, food supply chains are all at it. I read there is a ‘big six’ that monopolise selling seeds to farmers, which only work with certain fertilisers they also sell at their fixed prices, and then they buy the grown product back at a you guessed it, a fixed price.

Lloyds bank are changing loads of people’s hours if they are part time - either take a pay cut or change the days you work.

Sainsburys got rid of its team leaders a few years back, reduced the unsocial hours premium by one hour for night shift.
Tried to remove the bakers premium which the union managed to block.

The big 4 have all had to make drastic cutbacks to compete with Aldi and Lidl, who crept up quietly while the giants were snoozing, and stole much of their customer base

It's like when companies removed the 'time and a half' for Sunday working