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Horses- yard drama. Help!

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Clipityclopity3 · 19/05/2023 10:55

I’ve got my beautiful 2 horses at a yard that until recently has been perfect. But the atmosphere has changed recently and I feel so miserable there. But I can’t change yards as it’s best for my horses and no other nearby yards offer full turnout throughout the year, so I have to stay here because it’s best for my horses.

I’ve always just kept myself to myself- my horses are on full livery so I don’t go to the yard everyday. They are ridden 3 times a week on average but are fit with it, and they are turned out all the time too which helps. Nobody has ever passed any judgement on my routine until recently.

A new livery moved in around 3 months ago. She is nice but the atmosphere has changed significantly. She likes to do everything together and at times I will school or hack or go out for lunch with them, but generally I like to go to the yard and work myself and sort my horses and go home. With a stressful job it’s my happy place to go to the yard and have some quiet time just with my boys. I’ll always be polite and chat away but I’m a quiet person anyway and I just like to have some me time with my horses so I’m happy to hack or school together sometimes, but other times I want to do it myself. But she calls me rude because of this and seems to think I’m antisocial, and that I should always want to do things together. She’s never liked me- she would say that I’m shy and hard to talk to, but we would make small talk but it was always me being interested in her and she would completely ignore me and then the conversation would just die because she wasn’t reciprocating it.

I was just being polite and accepting we will never be friends but can be civil, but now she’s been talking about me to the other liveries and she’s popular so people who have always liked me are now really close with her and have been acting differently towards me and talking about me too.

She says I don’t care about my horses which is absolutely unfair but I’m just not a hysterical horse owner and with hers the vet is ALWAYS out, there’s always an issue and nothing is ever simple. It’s now a competition with her and some of her other liveries as to who’s horse is more difficult and expensive and half of the time it doesn’t even need the vet. I don’t judge her for it, but she always passes comments that I’m ‘too chilled out’ about my horse, and ‘do I not understand what to do?’ Err, I’ve had horses for 30 years and just because I don’t call the vet out because they’ve scratched their leg doesn’t mean I don’t care.

Recently we had the farrier out because both boys needed new shoes. We all use different farriers at the yard and don’t call them out in sync. Unbeknownst to me, she uses the same farrier and had contacted for an appointment that week. She had been offered the same day as mine and that it would be discounted because he was already coming out to me (farrier is fantastic and would have given me the same discount when it came to paying for it) but I didn’t realise any of this. I ended up having to cancel as I was unwell and the farrier still went out to her but it was full price for her as it wasn’t a shared appointment. Now she (and all her friends) have been furious at me and saying I should have told her I was cancelling and that it was full price because of me, but I didn’t even know she had booked in as well nevermind on the same day!

she is always passing judgement that I don’t come up to the yard enough and that my horses are not ridden enough. Nobody else has ever had an issue with my routine until now and everyone just blindly agrees with her and they’ve all been talking about me.

Ok, you probably get the idea. The atmosphere has changed and I’m miserable going up there now. But my boys are happy and there’s no other yards with turnout as good as this. How do I toughen up and let all this nonsense brush over me so I can keep my horses there without me being miserable?

OP posts:
anon12345anon · 19/05/2023 11:00

She's a cunt.

Two options,
either have it out with her and put all the issues out there. Or just ignore her, enjoy your horses and pay her absolutely no attention.

Good luck - there's always some twat ruining an otherwise peaceful life Hmm

Heartsnrainbows · 19/05/2023 11:00

Sorry you didn't realise you were her secretary and supposed to know her appointments for the week?

Your routine sounds fine and I'd just keep repeating that this is what works for you and the horses are fine, thanks for the concern.

OooYoureHard · 19/05/2023 11:01

I know nothing about the horse world OP so I'm probably not being helpful but can you not tell her / them to just fuck off and leave you alone? Just concentrate on your horses? I'm a loner though and don't really care if people don't like me!

Chamomileteaplease · 19/05/2023 11:03

Ear buds?

Keep your head down. Try to avoid as much as possible.

Such a shame.

Merha · 19/05/2023 11:03

In my experience, that sort of livery pisses other people off sooner or later, and moves on. Sit tight and enjoy your lovely boys. Hugs!

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 19/05/2023 11:04

Put some ear phones in And listen to music or a podcast. Then you don’t have to engage with her. She will find someone else to pick on once you are ‘unavailable ‘, they always do.

CaveMum · 19/05/2023 11:05

You need to talk to the yard owner/manager NOW. This is exactly the kind of thing they should be managing and keeping on top of.

A stern “If you have concerns about the welfare of any of the horses in the yard, these must be raised with yard manager in the first instance. Bullying will not be tolerated.” message by text/email to all liveries might help to nip it in the bud.

PocketfulOfMiracles · 19/05/2023 11:06

I wouldn’t go with earnphones as they can be small and unnoticeable. I’d go with a pair of bloody big cans so she realises you can’t hear her crap and just crack on with it.
these people feed off the drama.

hamstersarse · 19/05/2023 11:08

In this circumstance i would actually do some form of confrontation and become more assertive

You are never going to get on with her, but telling her directly:

"Thank you for your input but I have had horses for 30 years and am quite happy with the way I care for them"

"If you needed me to keep the farrier appointment, you should have communicated that. It is not my problem"

"Shall we agree that we do things differently and leave it at that"

However you say it, this situation calls for some directive assertiveness

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 19/05/2023 11:11

I have friends with a livery yard. They had someone exactly like this, they were asked to leave. Speak to the owner/manager, it's completely unacceptable.

twistyizzy · 19/05/2023 11:13

Oh the joys of livery yards 🙄
You need to put her in her place now otherwise this will just continue but I would speak to YO first. Liveries like that are usually serial yard hoppers so hopefully she won't be there long anyway!

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 19/05/2023 11:14

This is why I detest livery yards. My dd has a horse and it was a nightmare, the adults are worse than the kids imo.

I ended up going to a private yard with only the owners horses and mine. I'm the same, horses (even my dd's) are my happy place and I like to quietly Potter around, I don't do it to be sociable.

I've no suggestions apart from finding somewhere different, or even finding your own paddock, the issue with that means you have to go everyday

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 19/05/2023 11:17

Whats your YO/YM like? My yard is big-ish but is owned by a totally no nonsense farmer and anyone rocking the boat/being a twat gets a stern talking to or their marching orders. Keeping one difficult person happy isn’t worth it if 5 then leave!
Might be worth having a chat?

Heronwatcher · 19/05/2023 11:23

Next time anything happens (even a low level comment), ask for a word and then just tell her calmly and politely (with a smile) that you will look after your horses/ engage farriers as you see fit, you want to work by yourself quietly, that you have no desire to be her or anyone else at the yard’s friend and that if she doesn’t back off and leave you alone (including badmouthing you to others) you will complain to the manager and potentially consider contacting the police/ a solicitor as what she is doing may constitute harassment.

Honeyroar · 19/05/2023 11:24

How is this even happening if you’re on full livery? Why isn’t the yard owner/manager stepping in? If she’s criticising how your horses are cared for she’s criticising the yard..

Liveries like that are a nightmare. I used to have liveries on my yard, but it drove me bonkers. For e tiny bit of money it made it wasn’t worth the 24/7 hassle, and whatever rules I set up to avoid a problem, someone else came with a different issue to cause problems!

Every time she says something, reply that you don’t want her opinion, and you won’t be fitting any farrier or vets appointments around her, so don’t expect you to. Then walk away, even if she’s talking back at you, saying I don’t want your opinion.

HorseyMel · 19/05/2023 11:25

Problems dripping with privilege

Honeyroar · 19/05/2023 11:26

And definitely speak to the yard.

Clipityclopity3 · 19/05/2023 11:28

HorseyMel · 19/05/2023 11:25

Problems dripping with privilege

Excuse me?

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GrannyWeatherwaxsHatpin · 19/05/2023 11:31

What does your YO think about all this? After all, this fuckwit is risking damaging their business if they've got unhappy customers.

If, as YOs so often do, they decide not to get involved (the professional way of dealing with it being for them to take Fuckwit Livery aside and ask them to wind their neck in leave other liveries alone, but then some YOs have the people skills of a bollard) then the only way is - forgive the pun - to ride it out. People like this almost always metaphorically hang themselves in the end.

It's shit, trust me because I've been there. They're almost always jealous and/or insecure and it's as tedious as it is unpleasant to deal with. But she will either learn that she doesn't get her jollies from bothering you because she's never getting a reaction out of you or she'll trip up, make herself unpopular with everyone and leave (usually with a complaint that they're being bullied Hmm )

In the meantime, always be cheerful but at arm's length with everyone. Google "grey rock technique" and have a few stock phrases for when Fuckwit Livery dispenses her advanced knowledge (they're always fucking know it alls, aren't they?) such as "Thanks for that, I'll bear it in mind", that end the conversation without antagonising her. Manage the farrier situation by discussing it with him and maybe putting a note on the yard board if you have one when you've booked an appointment. But mostly just enjoy your lovely horses and rise above her drama, it's the best quiet revenge!

Peach0123 · 19/05/2023 11:32

She sounds an absolute nightmare.
Echo what PP have said, you need to speak with the manager/owner about this. If she's not been there long an moved from another yard then I guarantee she has form for this. The horsey world is a small place so maybe they have been made aware by previous yard. If not it won't take much to find out.

Stand up to her and say 'fuck off, my horses my business'. Full livery is not cheap and the yard is meant to be your down time, don't let some jumped up little bitch ruin this for you.

GrannyWeatherwaxsHatpin · 19/05/2023 11:34

Stand up to her and say 'fuck off, my horses my business'.

Problem is, people like this are usually pretty quick to play the victim. OP doesn't want to find this is twisted back on her, particularly if the YO doesn't want to have to deal with it.

Horseskeepmesane · 19/05/2023 11:34

You have my sympathy!!! I would speak with the YO and tell them that she is talking nonsense about you. Just carry on as normal! They are your horses not hers.

Peach0123 · 19/05/2023 11:39

GrannyWeatherwaxsHatpin · 19/05/2023 11:34

Stand up to her and say 'fuck off, my horses my business'.

Problem is, people like this are usually pretty quick to play the victim. OP doesn't want to find this is twisted back on her, particularly if the YO doesn't want to have to deal with it.

Yeah actually, you have a good point. I was coming from the angle that bullies need standing up to but in this case it might not be the best approach.

Dedodee · 19/05/2023 11:45

I wouldn’t speak to her at all.
Whatever you say will be twisted.
Just glare at her and walk off.
Whats she going to tell people @Clipityclopity3 looked at me funny?

DingDongDenny · 19/05/2023 11:46

If you ignore her the chances are she will move on to the next victim to get her drama fix, then people will likely see her for what she is.