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To correct them everytime over DDs name?

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AllInAName · 18/05/2023 21:55

For this thread lets say DDs name is Elizabeth (it’s not but it works for the example).

She is Elizabeth, no Liz, Lizzie, Beth, Eliza, just Elizabeth. I personally like all the shortenings of her name and would have no issues if she wanted to use one. ExH uses a shortened version of his name and day to day I use a completely different name to my given name but my parents refer to me by my given name so DD is around people who use shortened names/different names and knows she can to but says it’s not her.

Teachers and TAs at school have always been fine with it and call her Elizabeth but I’ve noticed that NHS staff and other outside of school shorten it. DD has medical condition that requires regular physiotherapy and also orthopedics input.

Both her physio and consultant use different shortenings of her name, one calls her Beth and the other Eliza for example. I wouldn’t normally complain as generally they’re doing their best but DD doesn’t like it and both have commented that DD can be unco-operative with them and I just think if they used her preferred name she’d co-operate better. It’s also happened in other NHS settings such as the GP and also at activity clubs and similar – actually school and Brownies are the only place DDs name doesn’t get shortened to Liz/Lizzie/Beth/Eliza and she is known only as Elizabeth.

I do correct them everytime and have repeatedly said “She doesn’t like to be called anything but Elizabeth”, and I use Elizabeth when talking about DD but they still slip back.

I don’t want to make an official complaint or anything as it’s such a minor thing. I have checked on DDs medical records that theres no known as name in her records (there is in mine and ExH says in his to) so it’s not like they’re reading the notes.

Is there anything else I can do other than correct them everytime?

For context DD is 8, but quite shy so wouldn’t correct them herself

OP posts:
TimeForTeaAndG · 19/05/2023 09:51

orangegato · 19/05/2023 09:46

Absolute non-problem. Good heavens.

Alright then, Bob. Just cos you think you wouldn't mind people using the incorrect form of your name. Why bother having names at all, eh?

HRTQueen · 19/05/2023 09:51

Is it really an issue for your dd or is this your issue

my name is often mispronounced to the English version. It really annoys my mum I don’t care and never have or my name being shortened though I do correct it now I was too shy as a child

CharlottenBurger · 19/05/2023 10:05

ChocChipHandbag · 19/05/2023 09:38

It IS pronounced Es-MAY. That's what the é signifies.

If they spelled it without the é they've just made up a name that sounds a little bit like a real name.

Like if someone called their son Roobert.

You were correct. Even if you weren't, that child needed a talking-to about rudeness.

You do run the risk that people (not me!) will think that sprinkling acute (or grave!) accents, diareses, circonflexes, etc, on your kid's name for the purpose of poshing it up is a bit, kind of, precious. or insisting on a 'correct' pronunciation that most people haven't heard of. My little Hermes, for example. No matter how many times I tell people he is Her - mays, they insist on calling him Her-mees. He makes things worse by telling his little pals to call him 'Harry' and rolling his eyes v. expressively when I put them right.

CharlottenBurger · 19/05/2023 10:12

I note in this 2014 MN thread on the same subject,

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/baby_names/2259330-Esme-Esm-or-Esm-e

it was mentioned that: If following French language rules, then 'e with accent' for a boy and 'ee with accent on the first e' for a girl.

So, perhaps, Esmée (adj/ 'esteemed') for a girl, and Esmé for a boy (really?) if you want accents. But 'Esmee' is too tempting for les rosbifs to say their way.

Just throwing a bit of mischief in 😀

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EsmeSusanOgg · 19/05/2023 14:51

ChocChipHandbag · 19/05/2023 09:38

It IS pronounced Es-MAY. That's what the é signifies.

If they spelled it without the é they've just made up a name that sounds a little bit like a real name.

Like if someone called their son Roobert.

You were correct. Even if you weren't, that child needed a talking-to about rudeness.

Esme, without the accent, is a diminutive of Esmeralda and can be pronounced Es-Mee not Es-May.

mondaytosunday · 19/05/2023 15:26

Beth and Eliza are completely different names, even if they could be nicknames for Elizabeth I know girls who have those as their given names.
My daughter has a 'nickname' as her given name. Occasionally some one will use the long version and she either smiles if it's someone she is unlikely to see again or says her name.
Your daughter, or you, should just say her proper name when someone calls her something else. And repeat if you have to.

ChocChipHandbag · 19/05/2023 16:56

@EsmeSusanOgg not the standard way of saying the name though, nicknames and diminutives tend to have all sorts of pronounciation made up on the hoof. There's no way that someone would be expected (as that PP was) to assume that the default pronunciation was es mee.

There can't be enough Esmeraldas knocking about the UK to make it a common nickname to come across and know already like Becky or Suzie.

thecatsthecats · 19/05/2023 17:12

JMSA · 18/05/2023 22:03

I couldn't lose sleep over this in a medical setting. Her proper name is used in school and other social settings, the places that count most.

My mum is on a patient feedback and research group, and one of the frequently reported issues between staff and patients is the patronising lack of respect shown by giving pet names.

My mum's experience is that she gets a very patronising response in NHS settings - until they learn that she's part of the research group, not a "doddery old lost patient".

If they can switch manners on and off, they can do it for patients.

EsmeSusanOgg · 19/05/2023 21:42

ChocChipHandbag · 19/05/2023 16:56

@EsmeSusanOgg not the standard way of saying the name though, nicknames and diminutives tend to have all sorts of pronounciation made up on the hoof. There's no way that someone would be expected (as that PP was) to assume that the default pronunciation was es mee.

There can't be enough Esmeraldas knocking about the UK to make it a common nickname to come across and know already like Becky or Suzie.

Oh, I don't dispute that. I think someone being nasty about an initial mistake is quite unpleasant. But if someone keeps mispronouncing when intiially corrected....

cyncope · 19/05/2023 21:48

ChocChipHandbag · 19/05/2023 16:56

@EsmeSusanOgg not the standard way of saying the name though, nicknames and diminutives tend to have all sorts of pronounciation made up on the hoof. There's no way that someone would be expected (as that PP was) to assume that the default pronunciation was es mee.

There can't be enough Esmeraldas knocking about the UK to make it a common nickname to come across and know already like Becky or Suzie.

I think traditionally the name was Esme (Es-me) and in recent years it has become more popular to 'frenchify' it, with or without an accent.

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