Why aren't parents correcting their DC?

[Meili04]

I just saw the DM article about an 11 year old boy being tasered for brandishing a knife over a tantrum in burger king. The mum said they were too harsh. I've seen this in my DDs school their child is a little angel and can do no wrong. If my child is mean to another child I correct the behaviour , if they rude I do the same.
My DC is a human being with faults and isn't perfect 100 percent of the time, no person is.

Why can some parents see no fault in their child? Our responsibility as parents is to bring up DC to be functioning adults who thrive. Treating DC as mini deities does them no favours. I think parenting is becoming too gentle. AIBU?

@furryfrontbottom why would nothing in Scotland be open past 11? I live next to a 24hr McDonalds and shop in a 24hr supermarket, there are plenty of wee 24hr shops near me too.

If an 11 year old was coming at me with a knife I'd be grateful if someone tasered him!

I dont think the mother was there, She was the one phoned the police because he had ran away after having a tantrum because burger king was shut. She was worried he wouldnt find his way back as they werre on holiday. It was only when the police found him that he picked up the knife and started waving it arounnd.

The worst kids I've met were not getting gentle parenting by any stretch of the imagination, but yes, their parents would be furious with anyone else saying the slightest thing against them.

However, five grown men with stab vests unable to deal with an 11-year-old without violence is a little too like USA policing and not a good look.

He was on holiday and ran away and somehow found a random "butter knife"?

Good. Hopefully he will think twice before he kicks off again eh?

Of course, all bad behaviour must be down to being ND.

The gangs of children roaming around terrorising people must all be ND too.

Ah! noted, thank you. Apologies to all Scots. It's a while since I last visited Scotland and things have obviously moved on.

I really dont know, I just read the link

When was the last time you visited Scotland? 1920? 😂

An 11 year old is in year 6 or 7 and is well past old enough to know better. Knives are deadly. What would you have the police do if he pulls it and refuses to put it down, ffs!

Must everyone be ‘ND’? Is nobody just badly behaved now, or a bad egg (sadly they do exist and are quite common)?

If I were ND I would find it quite irritating that everyone assumes it’s synonymous with unusually violent or aggressive behaviour.

They have normal shop opening hours on Sunday too.

I came on to say this, but you've expressed it much more eloquently!

And before anyone raises the butter knife thing - Brooker v DPP 2005. Still an unlawful bladed item if over 3 inches long.

Equating parenting to punishing bad behaviour is ridiculous.

11yo is very young and I struggle to believe that tasering them is in line with the legal requirement to attempt to use the least force necessary. While the child might be behaving badly, I doubt most 11yos get to the point of pulling a knife in McDonalds without something problematic going on, and I don't think it is a bad behaviour that justifies that level of pain or the associated trauma and effect on their brain development.

Its not the job of Police, in the dark when being physically threatened to decide whether or not the person threatening them with a bladed article may or may not be really a threat to Police/the public in the course of the criminal offence.

Of course this is the police's job! They are required to make risk judgements of this kind all the time, and to have skills in deescalating potentially violent situations. Protecting vulnerable children is also part of the police's job. My job is in youth justice, so I've seen lots of examples of police officers working well with troubled kids.

I agree. The out of control kids in our village are the ones whose parents regularly shout and swear at them in public, I dread to think what it's like for them behind closed doors. They learn it from their parents ime.

Funnily enough, they're the parents who refer to kids as 'little shits' etc, much like some of the more rapid posters on this thread.

Did this woman also deserved to be tasered for wielding a knife?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-95-fighting-life-after-30012468

*rapid = rabid

According to the mum, the boy has Global Developmental Delay. Intellectually and emotionally he is younger than 11.

She called the police because in his tantrum over BK being closed he had run away. She knew he would panic and be unable to find his way home. It doesn’t look like the police tried to de-escalate the situation or take account of his disability. I too think they were wrong.

But it is disturbing that a young boy in this situation knew to film the episode for TIk Tok, where he is ripe for exploitation.

I would keep in mind that this is the mums version of events and the police can’t reveal any information about the incident.

Of course mum is going to miniseries the incident.

Surely no one publicises that their child has a serious intellectual disability if they do not?

Well I watched that clip and if ever a child was asking to be tasered, it was him.

I'm glad they didn't let him skip off into the night with his knife, because he would have learned from that that the police are ineffectual and he can get away with whatever he wants.

But what about the butter knife situation? Are they really just lying around all over the place? I am also out of touch with Scottish affairs and would need some reassurance on that point before I venture north of the border.

Also this. The boy could be well known to police and could have seriously assaulted an officer before. If somebody gives an officer a bad flesh wound, for example, or a broken arm, it doesn’t make the news. It happens many times every day.