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To think DH has abusive red flags?

86 replies

Proctorscope · 16/05/2023 16:01

DH and I have been together since we were 17. Since having our children (specifically our youngest) I feel like he has become controlling and verging on abusive. Apologies in advance for the long winded examples.
I was the main earner before I left full time work to have the kids. He has since had a massive pay rise and earns what both of us used to combined. I only work part time 2 mornings a week whilst DCs are at nursery. I earn approximately £800 a month and keep £100 to myself, the rest goes into the joint account for bills etc.
Since having the children, I mainly use the joint account for anything I or the children need. When I spend money, he gets alerts on his phone and usually texts me to ask what id bought. This is usually followed up by snide comments when he gets home.
I rarely leave the house alone. I don’t have any hobbies and I meet my friend or sister every couple of months for drinks/meals. Everytime I’m about to leave, he’ll warn me not to make a noise or wake the kids up when I come in and He’ll be very stand offish.
Recently, we went out for dinner with my friend and her partner. We met at the pub nearby whilst waiting for a taxi. Just as we were about to leave, he came over to me and I could tell he was in a huff. Apparently there was a man I went to school with at the bar who kept looking at me. (As you would if there was someone you haven’t seen for 15 years). He accused me of fancying him.
Over Christmas we got covid and it left me with a weakened immune system. I developed a cold sore which I have never had before. He full on accused me of having an affair.
He’s also started to slyly make comments under his breath as he’s walking by me in public. For example, if we’re out with my family, he’ll walk over to me, call me twat when no one can hear. I’m certain this is so I have a go at him and to everyone else it looks like I’m being completely unfounded and makes him out to be injured party.
In the recent past, our youngest had an allergic reaction. He screamed in my face saying I should have called him as soon as it happened. I explained that in that moment he wasn’t a priority at all and I had to sort out DC. He screamed in my face, called me an effing c**T and said that that was the worst thing I’ve ever done to him. That it was my fault he had a reaction and I should have paid more attention to what he was eating. DC has 20+ severe allergies and do all the meal prep, hospital appointments, diet research etc. I rarely respond as I’ve learnt he can’t argue if I don’t retaliate but I finally bit back this time. (I’m under no illusion that people don’t swear at each other but this just feels different).
The worst example, is he wakes me up in the mornings to fulfil his needs sexually. Our youngest has very broken sleep due to illness and mostly wakes up 2-3 times at night. At worst, it’s every hour. I’ve explained to him that I don’t like being woken up by him touching me or prodding me (sorry tmi) and that it’s not fair he expects me to do things after such a crappy nights sleep. He then sulks.
I’ve told him in unhappy with the way he treats me and he didn’t respond at all. Since then, he’s started to make off the cuff remarks about how if I leave he’s going to have the kids 50/50 and he “wont be a dad who sees their kids every other weekend”.
Its obviously being said to keep me here and it’s working! I’d rather live with him unhappily than be without my children.
im sorry for this incoherent stream of consciousness. I don’t know if I’m just being over dramatic (as he says) or if my worries are genuinely founded.

OP posts:
Coffeelotsofcoffee · 16/05/2023 19:23

I've worked in domestic abuse services for 14 years.
This gives me chills and I've heard it all.
Get out. Go to a refuge and take your kids with you

Dutch1e · 16/05/2023 19:30

I did read your whole post but had made up my mind by the time I got to "sidling up to me" to call you a twat.

The guy is out of control and in your position I'd start being as devious as possible, particularly when it comes to the financial aspects of the marriage (getting a full picture of the family money and siphoning off as much as possible before making the leap to freedom).

Scuttlingherbert · 16/05/2023 19:33

This was awful to read so it must be so so hard to actually experience.
Sending so much caring and concern. You deserve so much better than this.

Outofthepark · 16/05/2023 19:33

OP if your children are made to stay in a home like this it will really damage them for life. It is a horribly abusive environment and you have to leave. Leaving will save them.

I'm saying this because you sound so lovely, and such a great mum, but you might not do it for yourself. But thinking of your kids, you'll likely do it for your children a lot faster.

Peri8 · 16/05/2023 20:33

Gosh op he sounds awful, he is treating you so badly. I don’t even think there’s any point in couples counselling here - really, leave him.

NotNowGertrude · 16/05/2023 21:58

That's awful to read, I really feel for you. You'll feel so much better when you're away from him

Heronwatcher · 16/05/2023 22:03

This is so much more than red flags. He’s a dangerous man who hates you (who an earth would walk up to someone they are meant to love and whisper insults to them? Literally who an earth would do this?). Get yourself and your kids out of there.

laplaland · 16/05/2023 22:26

Do the right thing and leave him! I've been there myself. It's not easy but you'll get through it. He sounds exactly like my ex! Listen to your gut instinct because it's never wrong. I hope you are OK. Sending lots of strength xx

LlamaFace19 · 16/05/2023 22:31

He is vile and treats you appallingly. Please get away from him.

StrangeSally · 16/05/2023 23:26

Where are you OP ?don't like it when the op disappears

BleakMostly · 17/05/2023 07:25

Staying for the children's sake means they learn that it's normal to be awful to you. So guess what? You'll have raised children who treat you the same as he does - with derision and contempt. My 2 eldest don't respect me in the slightest and this is why. I wish I'd left him many years earlier.

IAmTheWalrus85 · 17/05/2023 07:38

He’s a disgusting abusive pig.

Can you increase your hours at work/get back to your old career?

He won’t go for 50/50, that’s a threat to scare you. Men like that don’t want the work of solo parenting.

Jifmicroliquid · 17/05/2023 08:05

Imagine this was your own daughter writing this in the future. What advice would you give her?
Get out of this now.

ElmTree22 · 17/05/2023 08:15

My gosh op, my heart goes out to you. There's very clear abuse here, financial abuse, emotional abuse and sexual abuse. You must be unbelievably unhappy.
I think you know that you need to leave this situation. And like others have said, he's using the children to keep you there, there's no way he will be able to uphold 50/50 custody.

Proctorscope · 17/05/2023 09:00

Thank you all for your replies. I’ve been reading them all just haven’t had the chance to reply.
I completely agree that I’ve been worn down… so slowly that I didn’t realise it was happening!
I do feel completely lost after the pandemic and having my second. I don’t know myself anymore.
I’ve tried to join the local gym to get out of the house and get some self confidence back but I simply cant afford it.
I’ve been siphoning money out of my wages each month and have enough to get away if I need to. I’m much happier with my individual wealth now that I am the registered owner of the new car, so I can sell that if needed.
Youre also right about my kids growing up thinking it’s normal, my 4 year old talks to me so much worse when his dad has been around more. (After bank holidays etc).
He’s very involved with the kids lives and doesn’t like to miss out. If I take them on days out without him, he’ll be a bit grumpy about it. Is this just because he’s out of control though?
I know this sounds awful, but during the most recent argument, where he was shouting in my face, I was just wishing he’d hit me. Atleast if he would have hit me, I’d have definite physical proof and it would have almost given me the excuse to leave. I know that’s very insensitive to DV victims and I apologise, it’s just how I was feeling at the time.
My family would undoubtedly help me financially if I left him. It’s just I don’t think they’d believe how bad it is. He’s a doting dad in public and has always been very emotional/soppy.
I’ve been living off the quote “Don’t quit on a bad day, quit on a good day”. The good days are becoming less and less frequent and I’ve almost completely withdrawn.
I had planned to wait until the youngest gets his 30 free hours at nursery next year. But it’s just becoming unbearable.

OP posts:
MzHz · 17/05/2023 09:05

These aren’t red flags for abuse, this IS abuse.

the comments under his breath? That’s chilling.

he won’t go for 50/50, probably won’t have them at all. Tell him you’ll need him to have them so you can have the odd break and I’ll bet that he won’t ever have them.

he’s an awful man. Do you have friends to confide in and help you get out?

Jellycatspyjamas · 17/05/2023 09:10

If you have the means and support to leave, just leave. The longer you are there the more worn down you’ll get and the more chance you have that he’ll find your “running away” fund. He’s abusive, there’s no real way back from that, he isn’t going to change.

MojoMoon · 17/05/2023 09:12

@Proctorscope are you using reliable contraception?

If he senses the children going to school/nursery could help "free" you then having you pregnant again would get you back under control.

He is horrible and this is not normal or acceptable behaviour in a marriage. Keep telling yourself that.

If your child told you their "best friend" was whispering they were a twat to them to provoke them in public, what would your advice be? Stay away from that person, they aren't your friend and tell a teacher.

In your case, it's not a teacher but your family and friends you should tell so you can get the support you need. You don't need to keep it secret - you are not the one in the wrong.

Proctorscope · 17/05/2023 09:17

I’m not on contraception. I don’t get on very well with most options and tbh, I’ve been avoiding it because that’s the only reason he hasn’t been “initiating” more.
Thats a really good point about getting me pregnant to keep me under control though!

a lot of your comments are making the lightbulbs switch on!

OP posts:
DunkingMyDonuts · 17/05/2023 09:19

I remember watching a programme with Mark Strong in where he was an abuser like your husband. When they were out socially he would whisper a number to his wife, to let her know when they got home what violence she could expect. Chilling to the core.

Your husband is that character.

You dont have to justify what he is like in private to anyone. He can put on whatever public face he wants. Up to him.

You know, your kids will know too if you dont leave him soon. And they may never recover.

PhoenixArisen · 17/05/2023 09:21

pillsthrillsandbellyache · 16/05/2023 16:22

Then you know how you respond? "50/50 sounds fab to me! That means we can both get on with our social lives, it'll be easier for work... shall we start it straight away?" Watch him backtrack. You know you need to get away, you know he's spouting bullshit to manipulate you in to staying. Play him at his own bloody game.

I wonder how he'd respond if he thought you actually want 50/50 so you could have a fun social life again and focus on work.
He's only threatening it because you're scared of that happening.

And yes, he is so so abusive. Financially, sexually, emotionally. This is all awful op and you deserve a better life than this.

OrbandSpectacle · 17/05/2023 09:22

a lot of your comments are making the lightbulbs switch on!

This sentence is a joy to read.

Jellycatspyjamas · 17/05/2023 09:23

I know this sounds awful, but during the most recent argument, where he was shouting in my face, I was just wishing he’d hit me. Atleast if he would have hit me, I’d have definite physical proof and it would have almost given me the excuse to leave.

You know you don’t need an excuse to leave, wanting to leave is reason enough. People in your life may not know about his abusive behaviour but I’ll bet my house they’ll have noticed a change in you as a result of the abuse, and will have their concerns.

LadyH846 · 17/05/2023 09:26

His treatment of you is absolutely appalling. It made me so sad to read. Of course it is abuse and I think deep down you know that. I hope you will do the best thing for you and your kids and get out of there.

IDontWantToBeAPie · 17/05/2023 09:28

Touching you sexually while you are asleep is sexual assault op. Hope you're ok.

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