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AIBU to not invite Sil's bf to christening. It is a long one with a backstory about inlaws behaviour.

52 replies

SilIssuesAgain · 11/05/2023 18:30

It is a very long one and this is not my first post about my in laws.

Background on Mil: She tries to control and have a say in everything my husband does. From small things like what he buys for peoples birthdays / sending cards to big life events. It feels like she thinks she can control every aspect of his/ our lives and treats us like we are incapable children always giving unsolicited advice and pointing out the obvious. She will contact him lots checking he has done something or is going to do something. Guilt trips and emotional blackmail is very common if you don't do what she wants. There has been times he has not done what she wanted and basically shunned him / reduced almost all contact with him for weeks or months.

Many examples: She told my dh the maximum amount he should spend on my engagement ring. She tried to pick out the place we have our wedding meal at. She demanded to know how much we were going to donate at my sons Christening at the church in front of everyone. She didn’t want us to have a baby (telling dh I hope your not trying for a baby). When dh told her I was pregnant she was almost in tears on the phone asking how will we cope. She was also very against me breastfeeding ringing almost everyday for the first months asking if I was still breastfeeding. She came into my bedroom when I was trying to breastfeed in the first week and she told me “its just so difficult, there is really no shame in giving up”. She told dh if I stop breastfeeding she will buy him a perfect prep machine. When we have decided I will be a sahm she told dh I should just work because I need a job and even said she will pay for part of nursery as my son will be better off in nursery. One weekend we said she couldn't visit because I was really ill with an infection. Because she couldn't visit that weekend she was shouting at dh over the phone saying "I'm just trying to help" and “my behaviour is not normal”. Then she didn't visit for months and just sent texts implying we were stopping her from seeing her grandchild. She also looked for any minor excuse to try to blame him or scold him for something for months. She tries to pick out different jobs for dh and even links him jobs. She got dh's step father to tell him its nice he enjoys his job but he should be earning more to support his family (we are financially fine and have never asked them for money). The jobs she picks out don't even pay much better. They are just a lot closer to her.
She also tries to control all family events and holidays. Dh would always have to visit at Christmas time and he has to stay for a bare minimum of 2 nights. When I would go to her house for Christmas she told dh I need to talk to other family members more, and I need to make an effort on Christmas day and dress up and wear make-up. It felt like the whole day was controlled and you even got woken up at 7am to open presents. For years it was always us going there for Christmas and boxing day. When we got our first house, the first time we were going to spend it with my parents her reply was "but it could be your grandmothers last Christmas".
It is also trying to control family news as well, telling him to text or call friends or family about things. Or telling dh that he must send our wedding and christening invites / information to people by a certain time. She wants to know everything, even my private medical matters. The thing that has ruined the relationship the most is my son has having a language delay and behaviour issues since the age of 1. She would constantly insinuate it was our fault asking things like are we even talking to him and pointing out his behaviour is not normal. One time commenting don't you even know your own age in an almost mocking way when he could not answer. He has since been diagnosed as being autistic. Since his diagnosis we have not had an apology for her behaviour. She is fact denies she said any of it and uses emotional blackmail saying things like “how can you think that of me, an I wont tell step Fil that you think that of me”. She will lie and deny a lot of the things I'm saying here or say “I’m just trying to help”. Over the years I have went more low contact and asked dh to stop sharing so information, especially about me. Because of this I am the black sheep of the family and seen as always being unreasonable by the family.

Background on Sil: Since I have known her Sil has always made demands on our time and private information, it is not a two way street. Like asking private information about us and our family but she would get annoyed with dh if he did the same, her personal life is private. She asked to attend dc's first video appointment with the paediatrician for his autism diagnoses. It really feels like she expects special treatment from dh. Tantrums or stroppy behaviour if you don't want to do what she wants.

Examples: She expected us to break lockdown rules at Christmas and travel 60 miles to clean Mil's rental property. She of course was not going to help clean. One time she arrived in a neighbouring city next to us early and she than expected us to drop what we doing to come see her. She would ask for expensive makeup that costs £40-60 from us for every birthday and Christmas and she would get us a £5-10 gift in return. One Christmas she asked for a 20 pounds and a 40 pounds make-up item and we only got her the 20 pounds items and she actually said is that it! On Christmas day when we would stay at Mil’s house she would bang on our bedroom door at 7am because she wanted us to open presents together. Mil would want help with Christmas prepping (perfectly reasonable) but every year Sil would point at me an dh when Mil asked who would help, she never once helped out. In the past when I made her lunch at my house she did not lift a finger.
There is also her behaviour which both annoys me and I find odd – examples are - at my sons christening he started to cry when the water was poured on his head and she started laughing out loud. When my autistic ds pronounced something wrong and she said what was that and started laughing. Frankly at this point I do not want her around my son if she is going to laugh at things he struggles with due to his autism. The latest thing that I am at the end of my tether with her (my last post) was Sil just complained to dh that her birthday card is not signed with our children names on it. Especially after the difficult 2 years we have had (the year it took for my son to be diagnosed and my 1 week old daughter being hospitalized with seizures). She also did not enquire as to my well-being when I was in hospital with pneumonia while pregnant and she did not come to see my daughter while in the hospital with seizures.

We are having a christening for our 6 month old daughter. Sil has been dating her boyfriend for 8 or 9 months – not sure exactly. They moved in together last month I think. Mil has said we have to invite him to the christening, but I don’t want him there as I have never met him and I don’t like meeting strangers. And at this point with putting up with Mil and Sil not respecting boundaries and their behaviour for the past 14 years I now really don’t want him at the christening. AIBU or am I letting Mil’s and Sil’s behaviour cloud my judgement.

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Weallgottachangesometime · 11/05/2023 18:34

YANBU
most of the info in the op was unnecessary. You don’t want him there….that’s all that matters.

Maybe you should uninvited MIl and SIL too?

Have you posted before?
I really think you need to start cutting them out.

SoTired12 · 11/05/2023 18:37

I would have told them both to fuck off by now, I really could not put up with that behaviour. I think you should put your foot down, you can invite whoever you want, if they don't like it then it's tough shit.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 11/05/2023 18:38

Isn’t it a church service? Surely you can’t prevent him from coming?

PrinceHaz · 11/05/2023 18:41

Can you not just offend the mother in law again, but just a bit more than usual so you don’t have to see her for years rather than months. They all sound hard work. I’d have no christening or have it without all problem family members.

Tinkerbyebye · 11/05/2023 18:42

Just don’t invite any of them to the christening job done

Purplebunnie · 11/05/2023 18:46

I'd let him come and he can see how batshit your SIL and MIL are. Be kind and give him the chance to run away. Then it will be all your fault and SIL and MIL will go NC with you and then you can have a normal life

Joking apart I really don't know what to advise, whatever you do seems you will probably be in the wrong

CastleTurrets · 11/05/2023 18:46

Just because these people happen to be related to your husband does not mean you have to tolerate them.

I'd cut them all off.

PurelyBelter · 11/05/2023 18:47

I think you’ve posted about this before and you’ll probably get the same advice. You need to go NC and so does your husband. MIL is toxic, especially for your son. You’re never going to have peace unless you cut them all out.

SilIssuesAgain · 11/05/2023 19:08

Have you posted before?
I really think you need to start cutting them out

  • *Yeah I have and have been going more low contact becoming the black sheep of the family.

Isn’t it a church service? Surely you can’t prevent him from coming?
And a pub buffet afterwards that I am paying for her head

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Weallgottachangesometime · 11/05/2023 19:11

SilIssuesAgain · 11/05/2023 19:08

Have you posted before?
I really think you need to start cutting them out

  • *Yeah I have and have been going more low contact becoming the black sheep of the family.

Isn’t it a church service? Surely you can’t prevent him from coming?
And a pub buffet afterwards that I am paying for her head

You need to cut contact so much that being the black sheep isn’t relevant. You can’t be a black sheep of a family if you’re not in the family.

Maddy70 · 11/05/2023 19:12

Invite him

If your dh wants his sister there then the guy she lives with should be invited to

You dont have to have too much interaction. With them. It'll be busy anyway

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 11/05/2023 19:12

I'd invite him. If he is there, sil and mil might be on their best behaviour and if not, it might 'dilute' their behaviour a little bit.

Why are you even inviting his family though? It sounds like cutting them off would be the best solution

Ispini · 11/05/2023 19:16

I don’t understand why you are tolerating such horrible behaviour? Tell them to do one and don’t involve them in your lives.
you will be happier as a family. I would never tolerate this, totally abusive behaviour!

Hazelnuttella · 11/05/2023 19:16

I would invite him as it doesn’t sound like he is the problem!

As others said - his presence might encourage MIL and SIL to be on best behaviour. And/or will be a good opportunity for him to realise how batshit SIL is.

Also if he’s not invited then presumably they’ll make a massive thing about it and ruin the christening for you anyway.

Good luck OP, keep distancing as much as possible and try not to give too much of your precious headspace to them. Convince yourself that they are irrelevant to you instead of letting them get to you.

SilIssuesAgain · 11/05/2023 19:18

If your dh wants his sister there then the guy she lives with should be invited to I have never met him and I don't like meeting strangers so I don't want him there. Since mil has said about inviting him and given that she does not respect boundaries it makes me want to dig my heels in more and say he is not coming.

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DemonicCaveMaggot · 11/05/2023 19:18

I'd invite him but tell SIL and MIL to stay away.

pictoosh · 11/05/2023 19:18

What does your husband think? It's his sister.

pictoosh · 11/05/2023 19:18

Does your husband mind meeting his sister's partner?

Iwasafool · 11/05/2023 19:42

SilIssuesAgain · 11/05/2023 19:18

If your dh wants his sister there then the guy she lives with should be invited to I have never met him and I don't like meeting strangers so I don't want him there. Since mil has said about inviting him and given that she does not respect boundaries it makes me want to dig my heels in more and say he is not coming.

What does your husband think? It isn't just about what you want. Your ILs sound a bit of a nightmare but this is a religious service and you shouldn't be using it in your "war" with them.

nurseynursery · 11/05/2023 19:45

If she's making the invitee list then I think her partner that she lives with should also be invited. You'll not have to have much to do with him so might be a good day to meet a 'stranger'

SilIssuesAgain · 11/05/2023 19:50

What does your husband think? It's his sister. After him giving into them and making light of their behaviour for so long, and me having to push for more low contact I don't care what he wants this time. I have been gaslight (Mil denying she has done and said things) and been made to feel unreasonable by his family because I want healthy boundaries and he has just stood by letting them. They are the biggest problem in my marriage, I had to demand he stops sharing my personal information after he told mil what exams I was having after giving birth because she asked – my own mother would not ask that level of personal information. I think I am going to put my foot down

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SilIssuesAgain · 11/05/2023 19:55

I have sent this message to Mil - Well I have decided Sils boyfriend (that I have never met, that I know nothing about) is NOT invited to my daughters christening. If people are unhappy with my decision they can address their concerns to me if they so wish.
I am just so sick of them and I don't care if Sil decides not to come - frankly it will make me happier as no chance she can laugh like she did at sons christening

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Odiebay · 11/05/2023 20:05

Like most of these type of threads your problem is your husband. Where was he when they did all the things above?. You said yourself he has stood by and let them... Nothing will change if he doesn't change.

nurseynursery · 11/05/2023 20:07

It feels like you've got this bit of power and want to get back at your MIL and SIL (understandable) but probably destined to cause you more upset somewhere down the line.
In terms of meeting a stranger, anyone is a stranger until you meet them. (At a party, or family occasion).

WhatInFreshHell · 11/05/2023 20:14

You say you don't like meeting strangers....but isn't everyone a stranger until you meet them? I don't understand that part?
Its obviously fine if you don't want a stranger at your DC christening but he'll always be a stranger until you meet him.
Anyway, they all sound vile and you should tell them to fuck off. Except the boyfriend, he needs to be warned!