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The tide is turning on two-faced tv stars

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Biggestpizzaiveeverseenjesus · 10/05/2023 20:22

So says Rylan Clark

He claims some people in the industry aren’t nice and polite, like they portray themselves to be and behind the scenes they treat people badly…that people are starting to see through it now and all will be revealed…

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Mrsjayy · 12/05/2023 10:45

JoanThursday1972 · 12/05/2023 10:30

Holly and Phil? Really? Professional? They giggle and act childishly.

This has been their T v downfall they giggle and have "in" jokes turns people off them .

TrustPenguins · 12/05/2023 11:00

Interesting...

BBC News - Phillip Schofield says Holly Willoughby is his rock after reports of fallout
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65569337

the80sweregreat · 12/05/2023 11:09

Sounds like his scared he will lose his job eventually and she might stay on!
Best to keep in with her.
Bit of 'soft soaping ' going on maybe as my mum used to say!

Mrsjayy · 12/05/2023 11:17

Definitely soft soaping, thing is they have become" TV spouses "and present 2 itv programmes they would need to separate and see who gets custody of dancing on ice.

the80sweregreat · 12/05/2023 11:31

Custody of DoI ! Lol
Hopefully they might bin this programme off as nobody I knows watches it and it's another' had its day ' and been on forever
Time for some fresh thinking by ITV

KimberleyClark · 12/05/2023 11:37

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 11/05/2023 20:50

Who the hell is Rylan Clark ?

Tall, dark, pale, bearded bloke with big blue teeth.

MermaidEyes · 12/05/2023 11:38

What a sycophantic statement, praising everyone and their dog for being so wonderful to him. His PR team must be paid well.

KrasiTime · 12/05/2023 11:42

Hmm but it seems people are no longer falling for it…

Picoloangel · 12/05/2023 11:56

I think PS is contemptible. He allegedly groomed and had a relationship with a very young man. If what we read is true, that relationship was clearly an abuse of power.

In full knowledge of this HW supported him and abetted his pathetic “coming out” nonsense which was cringeworthy to watch.
She can distance herself all she likes at this point but the fact is that she colluded in the cover up and in my opinion she’s as bad as he is.

Her simpering, giggling, infantile persona is completely out of step with how women should want to be seen. It’s excruciating. She’s clearly fighting for her professional life but I would happily never see either of them again.

Emotionalsupportviper · 12/05/2023 12:00

KimberleyClark · 12/05/2023 11:37

Tall, dark, pale, bearded bloke with big blue teeth.

He's made out of plastic.

AmIDoingThisRight · 12/05/2023 12:08

Picoloangel · 12/05/2023 11:56

I think PS is contemptible. He allegedly groomed and had a relationship with a very young man. If what we read is true, that relationship was clearly an abuse of power.

In full knowledge of this HW supported him and abetted his pathetic “coming out” nonsense which was cringeworthy to watch.
She can distance herself all she likes at this point but the fact is that she colluded in the cover up and in my opinion she’s as bad as he is.

Her simpering, giggling, infantile persona is completely out of step with how women should want to be seen. It’s excruciating. She’s clearly fighting for her professional life but I would happily never see either of them again.

Hear hear! Can't believe how invested I am in this - I don't even watch the programme!

itsnotmeitsu · 12/05/2023 12:20

@JoanThursday1972 > 'You mean Peter Powell tried it on?'

Yes, that is who I mean. This would have around1983. Before the boyfriend in the band I'd been married to somebody in the entertainment industry who was a sound engineer and stage manager, and there was loads going on in that industry in the 80s that has never come to light. I think it was a culture of; if you tell what you know you'll never work in this business again. Unfortunately I can't remember most of it 🤔😀

BriarHare · 12/05/2023 12:29

I think Holly has benefited enormously from Phillip propping her up on TM. Although it’s a predominantly fluff filled magazine show, on occasion they do have to interview politicians or contentious guests.

Holly is utterly useless in these situations. She doesn’t have any journalistic or interview skills like her predecessors, Judy, Fearne or Ruth. She can hide behind Phillip when she needs to and I think he’s been instrumental in cementing her role on the show despite the fact that she’s really got nothing to her beyond being competent at presenting.

I’m not invested in this issue, I don’t particularly like either of them but I’m not baying for blood either.

lovescats3 · 12/05/2023 12:40

Schofield comes across as patronizing, holly asa vacuous airhead barbie doll, they both need to be got rid of

SummerLovingDays · 12/05/2023 12:54

Ant and Dec.
The only people I know who issues with them was Kelly Brook ( something to do with BGT)
and Joe Swash. I think in particular Ant had a problem with Joe and was quite off with him on I'm a celeb when Joe was presenting the after show.
But apart from that what issues are there with Ant and Dec and other celebs?

SummerLovingDays · 12/05/2023 12:59

Also I think Amanda Holdman had issues with Phil. Didn't he stop her getting a presenting role on This Morning?
Also Eamonn and Ruth have issues with Phil and Holly.

SummerLovingDays · 12/05/2023 13:01

KrasiTime · 11/05/2023 15:03

Thanks for the gossip. However a question I have - why now are things difficult for PS. Who has he pissed off that wasn’t pissed off before?

I think he had pissed a lot of people off. However now they have a reason to turn on him I.e the whole brother situation
Also I think Holly has had advice to back off from him ( her husband is a producer) so she is distancing herself from him.

Rowthe · 12/05/2023 13:03

Will see what happens on Monday.

Who thinks they'll both actually be presenting?

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 12/05/2023 13:24

Originally, ITV wanted Davina for the role (and she was close to signing). Phill said he would leave and they wanted him (kept the concept of the This Morning ‘Family’). He wouldn’t consider anyone other than Holly (because she was a star of smaller stature then and would let him ‘lead’). He got his way, the partnership (which had been tried and tested on DOI) worked and his power at ITV began (or rather, was underlined. He started with Ferne and ‘don’t take me down with her’).

Amanda covered for Holly during maternity leave and was (is) a strong personality. PS did NOT like and she was never asked to come back. Read of that what you will.

Rylan was very very popular with the viewers. PS did NOT like. He is also good friends with Ruth & Eamon and all were aware of the ‘runner rumour’. None of them were happy with the state of affairs. None of them had their contracts renewed. Read of that what you will.

ITV and Holly (plus senior management of TM) have defended him but the escalating bad press (QueueGate, I’m Gay and the brother) is not ‘on brand’. Of course, they can’t fire him for his brothers actions but they can, of course, decide to part company at the end of his contract. I’ll put money on the line being ‘I’ve had a wonderful time, but it’s right the series is taken in a new direction at this time of its 35th birthday and I want to pursue new opportunities’.

And HW can of course decide to protect her own career - a process she started by setting up her own management company, taking on BBC gigs and not being there when he came back after the trial. Shingles my arse

Picoloangel · 12/05/2023 13:43

@BriarHare agree with every word.

I also agree that it’ll be presented as a choice PS made to leave!

Emotionalsupportviper · 12/05/2023 13:47

Yes - agree @BriarHare .

I strongly suspect that PS knows where a lot of bodies are buried.

Quitelikeit · 12/05/2023 13:56

This tension arose once it became apparent that Philips brother was standing trial.

You have to think - Holly was not aware of some facts regarding Philips brother or the facts that came out during the trial

I strongly suspect this has got to be the fact that the ITV studio runner Philip dated was photographed as a youngster at Timothy Schofields Theatre School as a young child. This picture is online somewhere (and emerged at some point during the trial)

Can you imagine how colleagues might feel if they had only recently become aware of that fact? I mean if you knew them as a couple then you found this out?!

it might not be this but it could be

Fizbosshoes · 12/05/2023 14:00

newnamethanks
When your career depends on your husband, it's probably wise to put up with a lot. Anthea Turner found this out to her cost and is still scraping around for work all these years later.

2 or 3 years ago she popped up on Michael Mcintyres show in "the midnight game show" segment. She was (quite enthusiatically) demonstrating how to change a duvet cover in super quick time. It seemed super cringey to me. (And to be honest, if I wanted a job in TV and that 2 min segment was all that was offered, I think I'd give up! 🤣)

Rowthe · 12/05/2023 14:08

Quitelikeit · 12/05/2023 13:56

This tension arose once it became apparent that Philips brother was standing trial.

You have to think - Holly was not aware of some facts regarding Philips brother or the facts that came out during the trial

I strongly suspect this has got to be the fact that the ITV studio runner Philip dated was photographed as a youngster at Timothy Schofields Theatre School as a young child. This picture is online somewhere (and emerged at some point during the trial)

Can you imagine how colleagues might feel if they had only recently become aware of that fact? I mean if you knew them as a couple then you found this out?!

it might not be this but it could be

But we cant know for sure how much she did or didnt know.

Obviously she would say now she didnt have any of these details.

ExcaliburBaby · 12/05/2023 14:18

can’t wait to read the “after X wonderful years at This Morning ive decided the time is right to leave the show to take on some fresh challenges, which I am so excited about and can’t wait to tell you all about soon……” PR spin