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DH working in a paranoid schizophrenics house

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jammidodger1 · 09/05/2023 22:37

I've name changed for this as could potentially be outing.

My DH works in a trade and went to complete a quote for somebody for a large job in their house. They accepted quote and DH started the work 2 weeks ago.

When he came home from completing the quote, we were chatting about his work as I'm now 38 weeks pregnant and this job is expected to take 4 weeks to complete and DH said that there were Nazi flags and symbols all over the house, posters and books on Hitler and the satanic symbol hanging in places. (Also, DH did tell customer that I was due right about when the job was expected to end but he might have to take a week or two out if baby is born a bit early which was fine).

DH came home yesterday to tell me that he was chatting to the customers wife and she told him that he is a paranoid schizophrenic who doesn't like to take his medication.

DH told me last night and then today he came home and said that he was in today whilst DH was working and was following him around watching him work from the door and DH had to do something in their bedroom and there is 2 axes by the side of the bed on the floor.

Am I being unfair to feel a bit uneasy about all of this?

I actually have an uncle who has schizophrenia and he is very unpredictable. He lives in a secure unit because of this.

OP posts:
betaglucans · 11/05/2023 09:58

can he take someone along to help him on the job? safety in numbers and all that? (he could suck up the cost himself).

PurpleChrayne · 11/05/2023 09:58

A paranoid schizophrenic Nazi.

I'm guessing your DH is desperate for work...

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 10:00

x2boys · 11/05/2023 09:56

She,was psychotic ,not a psychopath she had a diagnosis of schizophrenia,they had they had the inquest very recently,she hadn't been taking her anti psychotic medication by all accounts

Ok, well fair enough. Still doesn't mean everyone with PS is at risk of being a child killer.

MayBeeJuneSoon · 11/05/2023 10:01

Nah sorry. Won't take medication? Absolutely NO WAY!!

HoldingTheDoor · 11/05/2023 10:03

Ok, well fair enough. Still doesn't mean everyone with PS is at risk of being a child killer.

No one said that but though most people with schizophrenia aren't violent, an individual with schizophrenia is more likely to be violent than a person who doesn't, especially when they have a history of substance abuse. It's not unreasonable for the OP to be concerned in this situation.

x2boys · 11/05/2023 10:05

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 10:00

Ok, well fair enough. Still doesn't mean everyone with PS is at risk of being a child killer.

And I never said it did ,I'm Ponting out that in can manifest itself in violence and aggression in SOME, people as part of the illness.

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 10:07

x2boys · 11/05/2023 10:05

And I never said it did ,I'm Ponting out that in can manifest itself in violence and aggression in SOME, people as part of the illness.

yeah sure, that's all it is..... "Just" innocently pointing out how dangerous those PSics can be 🙄

JMSA · 11/05/2023 10:07

You are right to feel uneasy, OP.

Mirabai · 11/05/2023 10:07

It should be reported to his care team that he is not taking his medication and has weapons in the house.

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 10:11

HoldingTheDoor · 11/05/2023 10:03

Ok, well fair enough. Still doesn't mean everyone with PS is at risk of being a child killer.

No one said that but though most people with schizophrenia aren't violent, an individual with schizophrenia is more likely to be violent than a person who doesn't, especially when they have a history of substance abuse. It's not unreasonable for the OP to be concerned in this situation.

Because of factors far beyond the MH condition of this person. People from deprived backgrounds are statistically more likely to be violent, but you would totally ok if this thread was about someone on benefits and people are just "innocently" pointing out that a person on benefits was in the news for killin g a child. That's not prejudice of course as it's just SOME people on benefits, they aren't talking about them all.

x2boys · 11/05/2023 10:16

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 10:07

yeah sure, that's all it is..... "Just" innocently pointing out how dangerous those PSics can be 🙄

In response o people saying that There is no risk ,
I worked acute mental health for over 20 years so I have cared for many people with schizophrenis
the illness itself can be unpredictable ,some people either don't r respond to medication or lack insight due o being ill as to the need I take it ,some people can be quite literally outside of reality which can sometimes lead to violent and aggressive behaviour,I have never said everyone with the illness is dangerous
it is you that is trying to twist what I'm saying I'm well aware.that many people are well medicated and remain well sadly that's not the case for everyone.

HoldingTheDoor · 11/05/2023 10:20

Sorry but feelings don't trump reality(In spite of what many seem to think nowadays) I wouldn't go into anyone's home if they had Nazi memorabilia. If they had weapons I'd be incredibly on edge and may leave and if they have both and have unmediated schizophrenia then there's not a chance in hell that I'm staying.

Impaired judgement is a part of schizophrenia, just as seizures are part of epilepsy. Acknowledging that is not prejudiced. It's a fact. If their schizophrenia doesn't affect them in a negative manner, why are they being medicated? Only this man isn't medicated and has access to weapons. Like it or not it's a very potentially dangerous situation.

Chocolatetrifle · 11/05/2023 10:26

Totally agree with @SquashAndPineapple on this one, thank you for your valid points as I also have a family member who has a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

So many unqualified opinions on schizophrenia here also. Many who suffer from schizophrenia are actually functioning members of society and not all shut at home planning to hit someone with an axe.

Is this thread even real?

Mirabai · 11/05/2023 10:33

Chocolatetrifle · 11/05/2023 10:26

Totally agree with @SquashAndPineapple on this one, thank you for your valid points as I also have a family member who has a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

So many unqualified opinions on schizophrenia here also. Many who suffer from schizophrenia are actually functioning members of society and not all shut at home planning to hit someone with an axe.

Is this thread even real?

If you read the OP she too has a relative with schizophrenia, as do others on the thread, and one poster worked in acute mental health.

x2boys · 11/05/2023 10:36

Chocolatetrifle · 11/05/2023 10:26

Totally agree with @SquashAndPineapple on this one, thank you for your valid points as I also have a family member who has a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

So many unqualified opinions on schizophrenia here also. Many who suffer from schizophrenia are actually functioning members of society and not all shut at home planning to hit someone with an axe.

Is this thread even real?

And your opinion is based on how the illness manifests itself in your rfamily member
not one person in this thread has said That there are not many well medicated people, who are not fully functioning members of society
the illness itself however can be unpredictable and presents differently in different people.

Chocolatetrifle · 11/05/2023 10:36

@Mirabai I can read thank you.

No further posts from the OP suggests more than likely the situation is simply not real.

HRTQueen · 11/05/2023 10:41

Op I think it would be wise for your dh to not return but I understand that finances may make this very difficult

we have no idea how this man is when he is not taking his medication but unfortunately not taking his medication can lead him to having delusional thoughts and his interest in violence, having axes around the home suggests that this is the case

its a terrible terrible condition and there is so much stigma around (and agree that the title could have been different) but when looking at just what is presented this is not an environment I would feel safe in. This would raise concerns with a professional mh team

Mirabai · 11/05/2023 10:54

Chocolatetrifle · 11/05/2023 10:36

@Mirabai I can read thank you.

No further posts from the OP suggests more than likely the situation is simply not real.

Can read but haven’t bothered to grasp the different perspectives on the thread. You’re not the only person with a family member with ps. It manifests very differently in different people and control of it can depend on response to, and regular intake of, medication. How your family member presents is not relevant to all cases.

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 11/05/2023 11:14

Axes, Nazi paraphernalia and being followed about by a paranoid schizophrenic off his meds?

I wouldn’t have taken that job.

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 11:19

x2boys · 11/05/2023 10:16

In response o people saying that There is no risk ,
I worked acute mental health for over 20 years so I have cared for many people with schizophrenis
the illness itself can be unpredictable ,some people either don't r respond to medication or lack insight due o being ill as to the need I take it ,some people can be quite literally outside of reality which can sometimes lead to violent and aggressive behaviour,I have never said everyone with the illness is dangerous
it is you that is trying to twist what I'm saying I'm well aware.that many people are well medicated and remain well sadly that's not the case for everyone.

With 20 years experience I hope you would know that (1) most people suffering with PS are not killers or violent and (2) that casually mentioning an individual "tragic" case is perpetuating prejudice and stigma towards people with the condition, and NOT representative of most (as per point (1)).

Mirabai · 11/05/2023 11:29

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 11:19

With 20 years experience I hope you would know that (1) most people suffering with PS are not killers or violent and (2) that casually mentioning an individual "tragic" case is perpetuating prejudice and stigma towards people with the condition, and NOT representative of most (as per point (1)).

That poster never said (1) and (2) was simply an example case of an unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic who did unfortunately become violent during a psychotic episode. It’s a perfectly valid point.

x2boys · 11/05/2023 11:42

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 11:19

With 20 years experience I hope you would know that (1) most people suffering with PS are not killers or violent and (2) that casually mentioning an individual "tragic" case is perpetuating prejudice and stigma towards people with the condition, and NOT representative of most (as per point (1)).

Stop twisting everything I have written .

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 11:44

Mirabai · 11/05/2023 11:29

That poster never said (1) and (2) was simply an example case of an unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic who did unfortunately become violent during a psychotic episode. It’s a perfectly valid point.

Contributing to a thread like this with an example of how someone suffering with PS killed a child is absolutely perpetuating stigma and prejudice. It's anecdotal confirmation of the perceived dangers of people who have PS when actually the vast majority successfully function in society.

But you refer to them as schizophrenics, which kind of proves my point....

Nordicrain · 11/05/2023 11:45

x2boys · 11/05/2023 11:42

Stop twisting everything I have written .

I don't need to.

As someone working with MH consider what you say more carefully and the implications of it.

GoldenFarfalle · 11/05/2023 11:46

Testina · 11/05/2023 07:40

Yeah, this. Is your husband desperate for work?

or they are pro nazi stuff....

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