DH working in a paranoid schizophrenics house

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I've name changed for this as could potentially be outing.

My DH works in a trade and went to complete a quote for somebody for a large job in their house. They accepted quote and DH started the work 2 weeks ago.

When he came home from completing the quote, we were chatting about his work as I'm now 38 weeks pregnant and this job is expected to take 4 weeks to complete and DH said that there were Nazi flags and symbols all over the house, posters and books on Hitler and the satanic symbol hanging in places. (Also, DH did tell customer that I was due right about when the job was expected to end but he might have to take a week or two out if baby is born a bit early which was fine).

DH came home yesterday to tell me that he was chatting to the customers wife and she told him that he is a paranoid schizophrenic who doesn't like to take his medication.

DH told me last night and then today he came home and said that he was in today whilst DH was working and was following him around watching him work from the door and DH had to do something in their bedroom and there is 2 axes by the side of the bed on the floor.

Am I being unfair to feel a bit uneasy about all of this?

I actually have an uncle who has schizophrenia and he is very unpredictable. He lives in a secure unit because of this.

A person with schizophrenia not taking their medication has nothing to do with an axe weilding nazi. The former could be unrelated to the latter. It is the latter which is dangerous. The former may or may not be related.

The post should have been titled "DH working in a house with an axe welding Nazi" the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia is not the main issue here. It may be related and could have been much more respectfully discussed. However the main issue is the axe wielding Nazi sympathy.

Most people with schizophrenia are lovely and very very few are violent. This kind of thread propogates prejudice and is v unfair on people living with this diagnosis and their families. It is so stigmatising.

Again the Nazi stuff might well.be part of the man's illness ,I'm not sayings that it's acceptable but some people who have delusions and psychotic ideation ,can have all.kinds of delusional beliefs, it might not mean the man is an actual nazi,just unwell!

Of course,but some people even the loveliest of people can become aggressive when ill, it's not their, s fault it's can be pat of their illness ,just because you know how the illness presents in your brother doesn't mean you can speak for everyone with schizophrenia, and you can't say the Nazi ,stuff has, nothing to do with the mans illness unless you know how this paticular.person's illness affects them

No one is suggesting that displaying Nazi paraphernalia, having 2 axes beside the bed, following someone closely around the house and having paranoid schizophrenia is intrinsically related. However in order for the OP to describe the situation her DH is facing, she has to the give the facts of the situation. This is not discussing all Paranoid Schizophrenics, this is discussing this ONE person. Once we have the additional, fact, that the client is also not taking their medication, then it would appear obvious this is a potentially dangerous situation.

While it's fortunate for you that your relation does take their medication as do many other people, my Father did not, and was highly volatile and dangerous, which is why I take this situation very seriously, and in dangerous situations it's important to report facts over feelz.

Why on earth would he have accepted the work from a white supremacist?

I said that the illness may or may not be related. It may well be.

But just imagine that you have this diagnosis, and you see this kind of thread and thread title.

The stigma against people with schizophrenia is awful and this kind of thread keeps that going.

The title was v stigmatising.

I don't doubt his man sounds v dangerous and unpleasant. He may also be quite unwell due to his diagnosis and not currently taking medication. The two may or may not be related. The main issue is his Nazi sympathy and weapons. If those issues are due to or related to his schizophrenia we don't know.

I can't understand why your husband took the job, but he would be entitled to walk away on the basis that he wasn't given a very salient piece of information before he agreed to take it on. As a minimum, he should make it clear that he won't be working with the customer following him around everywhere.

Schizophrenics aren't dangerous.
people with nazi stuff all over their house however, are dangerous.

The weapons need reporting to the police for everyone's safety

The client has dangerous weapons in his house.
He has a serious illness that can manifest in dangerous, delusional behaviour.
This can be controlled with medication but his wife has told OP's husband that he is not taking the medication.
I think OP's husband should refuse to work in the property until the weapons are reported to the police and the medication issue is reviewed.
Remember that poor cyclist who was murdered in a park by a man who was not taking his meds? He was the
relative of a friend of mine.
The young father who was murdered while on his way to post birth announcement cards?
This situation is extremely risky .

I would be telling DH to turn down the work. I wouldn't want him making life easy for a Nazi.

Report the customer to the police and adult social services, that way if it is something to do with his mental health they can get some proper support in place, but it just sounds like the wife is making excuses for her husband out of embarrassment.

In fact I think he should refuse to work in the house on the basis of the nazi stuff anyway, but the weapons and medication issue is an immediate concern. Also, surely the wife is at risk?

Some people with schizophrenia can display violent and aggressive behaviour when they are unwell it can be part of their illness ,and again the Nazi,stuff may well be linked to.someone who is unwell ,people can have all.kinds of bizarre delusional beliefs when they are psychotic ,some linked to Royalty ,Religion, and quite possibly far right Nazi,s

Literallynoideaatall · Today 09:18
Schizophrenics aren't dangerous.
people with nazi stuff all over their house however, are dangerous.”

My father was schizophrenic and extremely violent/dangerous.

Most people with schizophrenia will not commit an act of violence but having schizophrenia does increase the risk of violence, especially when combined with a history of substance abuse. It is not unreasonable or prejudiced to be concerned in a situation where you have a man with schizophrenia who is currently unmedicated with access to weapons and a home full of Nazi imagery.

Your husband's judgement is of serious concern. Why would he have taken this job, knowing what kind of material is kept in that home?

There was a dreadful case a few years sgo.where a young child was stabbed to death in a park near me totally out of he blue by a women who.was acutely psychotic, this was becsuse was ill and she wasnt,taking her medication ,of course many ,people who have schizophrenia won't be violent and aggressive,but the illness can sometimes manifest that way in some people.

This.

My brother has paranoid schizophrenia (which doesn't define him as a person, so I don't refer to him as a schizophrenic). He is well medicated and you wouldn't even know unless you know. He wouldn't hurt a fly. Not everyone with PS is an axe murderer you know.

So YANBU about the Nazi stuff. YABU about being judgy and prejudice re mental illness.

Acute Pyschopathy and PS are two entirely different things though?

@SquashAndPineapple The issue most definitely isn’t just the Nazi paraphernalia, but it’s combination with a person suffering from a mental illness (and not medicating) having weapons accessible in his house.

She,was psychotic ,not a psychopath she had a diagnosis of schizophrenia,they had they had the inquest very recently,she hadn't been taking her anti psychotic medication by all accounts

I don’t think it’s intended to come across as the OP saying everyone who is diagnosed as such, is evil or bad. But it is an important factor when looking at the bigger picture as it can make people’s behaviour unpredictable. You’re right about people being offended if the title referred to someone’s skin colour however skin colour doesn’t make people behave in an unpredictable way, where as mental health issues can. Not everyone with the condition is like this Ofcourse, but I think the OP was writing from a place of caution and concern and I agree with her point. The weapons and an unpredictable mind set are a big cause for concern.l along with the nazi stuff. Had it just have been a case that she was concerned with her husband working with someone who had a mental health condition that would be difficult as there is no basis. Xx

As someone who personally knows a paranoid schizophrenic who killed someone I would get the hell out. Most people with ps, particularly well-medicated, are no threat to anyone but themselves, but some are and they’re highly unpredictable.

*different not difficult

I have worked with people with schizophrenia and have a family member diagnosed with it (successfully medicated). I wouldn’t say ‘people with schizophrenia are not dangerous’, when unwell they can be a danger to others and their self which is why many people with the condition have been sectioned at some point. I have felt in danger several times when around people with the condition.

When unwell people with the condition often believe they are someone they are not, and it’s often someone of great importance or criminal status, so he could believe he’s a a Nazi or even Hitler. The axes would be the worry, someone so mentally I’ll should not have weapons of any kind in their home.