The People demand that the Boats are Stopped.

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I keep reading about the Tory government working hard to deliver the people's priorities:

"Rishi Sunak and the Conservative Government are focused on five immediate priorities. We will halve inflation, grow the economy, reduce debt, cut NHS waiting lists and stop the boats."

Halve inflation (will happen anyway), grow the economy (vague), reduce debt (vague), cut NHS waiting lists (maybe by paying nurses and doctors more?), stop the boats (what?).

Maybe it's just where I live, but I'm not seeing this immediate urgent need to "stop the boats". It's certainly nowhere near my top 5 priorities for the government to be immediately tackling. If it was, I'd probably look at creating legal routes for genuine asylum seekers as a first step rather than shipping them to Rwanda.

Is it in your top 5 urgent government priorities? Are they speaking to the people and I've just completely missed it?

YABU: Stopping the boats is in my top 5 government priorities.
YANBU: I'm more concerned about something else and would bump Stop the Boats down the list.

yeah whatever

God the average persons inference skills on this website is appalling.

@Garethkeenansstapler - not in large swathes of the country

The Tory PM was a Remainer.

"Stop the Boats" as a slogan really hacks me off.

It's not just about "stopping the boats" (WTAF does that even mean when you consider the complexities and the terrors faced by these people who are desperate enough to risk their lives to get here?) It's about bringing to account all the hardened criminal gangs who facilitate the crossings. And why are we not looking at the framework of facilitation (mainly enacted by France, who, let's be honest do absolutely the square root of fuck all to stop people clambering into dinghies under the noses of the Jardiniere.)

Hate that the slogan appeals mostly to fascists and racists as a simplistic and extremely ignorant mantra. I don't necessarily want to stop the boats, but I do want to look into the problems surrounding the use of them in such large numbers, the unnecessary lives lost, including small children and whose heads should roll on account.

Great, well-balanced post.

Which one do you mean? The last three have been Brexit headbangers. BJ and his three word slogans.
Take Back Control
Get Brexit Done
Oven Ready Deal
Stop The Boats
They're very effective.

My point was the asylum seekers and refugees are not the people who have decimated our public services.

justteanbiscuits - I would bet money that not all those crossing the channel have family here. If I was fleeing a worn torn country I would be grateful that I had arrived in a safe country. There is no way I would then put mine and my family's lives in danger by getting in a boat and crossing the channel.

And the poster boy for Leave was also Tory. Classic case of Heads the Tories win, Tails the British public lose.

You could say the same about here!

Exactly. @Swingstotheleftslidetotheright you live in one of the wealthiest countries in the world. Sudden migration in the hundred thousands, shouldn't have a catastrophic effect on your public services and they shouldn't have to be housed the way they are. Media and politicians have very cleverly blamed the migrant on something that they've long underfunded and destroyed. It's easy to blame it all on the boats.

They said they are ‘much poorer’. That isn’t true. In 7 years they will overtake us. And have a much larger land mass. Poland is 70,000sqm bigger than the U.K.

Have you actually spoken to anyone who has claimed asylum here? Or risked their lives travelling here to escape persecution or death?

And @3dogsandarabbit I can't keep up with your multiple accounts or name changing. It's exhausting. (You have clear tells, but feel free to cry and gnash your teeth that I'm wrong!)

The one who oversaw the referendum, in order to shut down the Brexit debate once and for all.

Not in my name. 😡

It wont do any of those things 45,000 arrived last year and will not touch the sides of for example the benefit system, the State Pension made up 42% of the benfits paid out last year

And like most things the Tories touch, it didn't work and was disastrous for the country.

An economic prediction in the current climate is as good as nothing, and even so, their future economy doesn't help now when they've had millions of Ukrainians suddenly move.
Im not sure why you're being so pedantic about my wording anyway, you know what I meant.
They are currently poorer, may have more land but don't necessarily have more housing. Vast amounts of land in Poland is protected ancient forests and farm land.
My point still stands. They are poorer than the UK, yet have managed to accept migrants in the millions in a 6 month period. Yes, this has increased waiting times and there are some people who are begrudging it all, but this is in comparison to the UK having this 'crisis' in the hundreds of thousands spread over years.
Poland has historically never had migrants, they didn't have a polish as an additional language curriculum at the ready to handle all this. What they did have, is a very well funded and run public service system. It is not perfect, but this anti boat tirade thats spewed out, is just a facade to cover up for the decades of failings.

justteanbiscuits - I don't have multiple accounts, I have been on here for years and this has only been my second username, I changed it a few months ago for security reasons, think you must have me confused with someone else.

Well, statistically around 70% of immigrants in the last decade have been male, with about 80% of these men being under 35yo. I don't know about marital status.

My point was in response to someone saying that no one had a problem with the EU until the Tories started banging on about how bad it was. I was reminding them that it was a Tory who was a staunch EU supporter, and called a referendum to prove that the public agreed with him, and to shut down the dissenting Brexiteers. If Cameron - a Remainer and the Tory PM - hadn't called a referendum, we'd probably still be in the EU.

Or the huge rise in sexual crimes in Europe in the past decade, with the countries taking the most asylum seekers seeing the biggest rises.

1200 sexual assaults on one NYE would've been an outrage a couple of decades ago in most European countries but is swept under the rug by the police and ignored by the public nowadays

I care about the safety of the people on the boats, but the only way I want this to be remedied is by their being offered safe passage combined with an efficient system of checking any asylum claims. If Sunak were offering that, I'd back it all the way. But somehow it doesn't seem to be on his agenda.