The People demand that the Boats are Stopped.

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I keep reading about the Tory government working hard to deliver the people's priorities:

"Rishi Sunak and the Conservative Government are focused on five immediate priorities. We will halve inflation, grow the economy, reduce debt, cut NHS waiting lists and stop the boats."

Halve inflation (will happen anyway), grow the economy (vague), reduce debt (vague), cut NHS waiting lists (maybe by paying nurses and doctors more?), stop the boats (what?).

Maybe it's just where I live, but I'm not seeing this immediate urgent need to "stop the boats". It's certainly nowhere near my top 5 priorities for the government to be immediately tackling. If it was, I'd probably look at creating legal routes for genuine asylum seekers as a first step rather than shipping them to Rwanda.

Is it in your top 5 urgent government priorities? Are they speaking to the people and I've just completely missed it?

YABU: Stopping the boats is in my top 5 government priorities.
YANBU: I'm more concerned about something else and would bump Stop the Boats down the list.

I have a Ukranian friend who was a Dr in paediatrics there and here she’s had to apply to be a student nurse. She’s on the NHS student nurse program and has got 6 months to go to fully qualify as a nurse..when she’s a consultant doctor with over twenty years of experience. It’s ridiculous.

People really have no inference skills anymore. OP is literally asking is it in your top 5, if so, why.
She hasn't said anything about it not being important, but as far as making the top 5 most urgent matters in the country, it is a little strange.

FWIW if we actually prioritised all the other things OP listed, we wouldn't have to worry about housing migrants in packed hotels in tiny towns, straining their completely exhausted services, by ballooning their population by 25%.
Poland is seen as a third world country by some on here, they've just housed millions of Ukrainian refugees. Doesn't anyone think that the UK, a country that sees itself as a world power on par with the USA, should be able to handle migration in the thousands? That sudden migration, shouldn't cause so much chaos that it falls into the top 5 priority need? Our housing and public services are in such a dire state, we can't even properly look after migrants in their thousands. It's a joke.

justteanbiscuits - Well of course everyone is entitled to live somewhere safe but that isn't the real world. Like I said before the UK cannot solve the world's problems. You say that you wouldn't want to live in a tent in France, what about all the other European countries I mentioned?

Stopping boats is a distraction.

I put significantly reducing legal migration at a higher priority than stopping illegal migration in boats.

Don't you think it's quite embarrassing that the UK can't handle migration in the thousands? I mean Poland has managed it in the millions in the last year and their housing, education and medical care hasn't collapsed. They are much poorer than the UK.

Not my experience and I love in Kent.

I don't care about the boats because I'm quite well off and don't live in Kent. If I was a nicer person I would care that people are drowning and if they do get here alive then getting caught up in modern slavery. I am extremely grateful that some people do care about stopping the boats for this reason. But I haven't got the energy.
Only the super naive and privileged like myself don't care about the boats

It is isn't it it's not right at all when she's more than capable and the NHS is desperately understaffed. This is one of the reasons why many Asians end up working in takeaways

Do you understand that those whose asylum applications are accepted, who are sure of their claims also have to come in a boat because there’s no legal route for them to come here otherwise?

I am utterly amazed that solving the housing crisis / rental market isn't on the list.

Well, I suppose your post was very honest!

I’m utterly amazed you can’t see that issues such as this are contributing to the housing crisis.

You’re wrong there, their economy is absolutely booming and they will be wealthier than us by 2030. Article from today

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/07/poland-europe-superpower-communism-putin-military/

Comparing countries like Poland and Australia to the uk isn’t the same - look at land mass for a start. But again not no immigration - controlled immigration.

I’d like to stop the boats - tho it might not be in my top 5, it’d be pretty close. Why? I heard a radio play about a country with a horrific immigration system. All applicants had to pay huge sums of money to take part in a series of tests which may last from several months to a few years. They had to undertake extreme and dangerous physical tasks during which a not inconsiderable number of them would die. Old people, sick people, anyone with caring responsibilities was effectively disqualified. The system was obviously rigged against women, who may also have to endure sexual violence as part of the journey. Contestants often became violent towards each other, as well as being subjected to violence from other people. It sounded awful….. oh wait (you saw it coming, I didn’t), that’s the system that ends up with inadequate boats crossing the Channel.

of course we should have an immigration system which allows people to apply either from their own country, or the first safe country they can reach.

NHS, Education, Housing, Sewer Problems, Dentist, GP, All these are directly related to everything else. Including new people coming to the country being funded by the tax payer.

How many Albanians have come over in dingys?

This!

AND I live in one of those said towns in the South East that is directly across the Chanel. Some people are so thick it’s untrue! If it’s in the daily fail it’s FAKE FFS!

We had a cleaner at work who was a qualified Doctor, and was just working any job in the NHS while he waited for a place to train to convert his qualifications. Another had an Mba.

I don't care about culture war bullshit.

I want to be able to get a GP appointment, afford food and energy and live comfortably without being a wage slave.

The countries that take more, as a % of their population, than the UK does?? The countries that actually offer more benefits than the UK does?

I can very strongly imagine wanting to be with family if I had escaped war and persecution.

It's only a concern because the Tories keep wanging on about it. It's like Brexit. No-one gave a toss about the EU until the Tories started blaming everything on them.
It used to be single mothers, benefit 'scroungers' etc now 'the boats' is the latest 'look over there!' from this shitty government.
Can't they stop the water companies filling our rivers with shit while paying out 1.4 bn in dividends, to use just one example. Social care,
NHS, housing, transport. That's five off the top of my head that I think are vastly more important.

So your proof that they're richer than us is an article stating that they're currently poorer than us.

Interesting

I live in a coastal town outside the SE and according to racist agitators on our local FB pages our B and Bs are full of refugees and asylum seekers who have been rehoused here from the SE. I live right in the area where this is apparently a problem and I haven’t noticed anything at all. I guess we have a lot of Kurdish barber shops?! I’m not sure what else I’m supposed to notice. This would not make a list of things I want the government to deal with, however long I kept listing.

because we're a tiny country

Ha, ha. Oh my aching sides. This government represents themselves and their donors. I think the public are way down their list of priorities