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Rude ladies at street party.

53 replies

KidneyWarrior · 08/05/2023 14:55

My username says it all really. I'm on dialysis while waiting for a new kidney. I do it from home (pd). I went to a street party yesterday and my two neighbours were talking about my dog. They first told me that he was my DPs dog, not mine, because DP takes him for a walk most of the time, mainly because I'm hooked up to a machine you know. They then inferred that I was lazy - I said, I walk him too sometimes, they said, where, just down the road, and were generally having a good laugh at my expense. I tried to laugh it off so as not to create a scene with the rest of our lovely neighbours. But I am dreadfully tired and dizzy all the time at the moment while I wait for a new organ.

But since I've come home, I've though about it a lot. I feel really worthless while waiting for this transplant, and I feel like I've been judged by two complete strangers to me. I don't look ill at all, and they would have no idea I was ill, but tbh, I didn't feel like explaining my medical health with them. On the one hand, maybe I should have explained why I'm not active at the moment but on the other hand, why should I? However, I now feel really uneasy about the whole episode. I feel dreadful and ill at the moment anyway as I can't sleep so my just be sensitive but I really I feel like these two women were tacky. I still don't know whether to explain myself now. My health feels like it should be allowed to be a private matter, but I don't want these women thinking I'm lazy.

YABU = I should have explained myself and my illness.

YANBU = they should have had more class and noy judged a stranger.

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ELLAMAR00 · 08/05/2023 17:09

Curtain twitchers I hate neighbours that watch and disect everything that others do.

DRS1970 · 08/05/2023 17:14

I would have have told them to mind their own fucking business.

southlondoner02 · 08/05/2023 17:20

I don't think you should have to tell them about your health. I can't imagine implying to anyone that they were lazy. For a start none of us know each other's physical and mental health issues but mainly because it's bloody rude.

JudgeRudy · 08/05/2023 17:22

TidyDancer · 08/05/2023 15:12

I'm sorry you're feeling hurt by this OP.

I think you're looking at it from the position of knowing there's a reason for why you're not seen out very much and seeing them through those eyes. They instead are just commenting from the position of only seeing your DH walk the dog.

Were they rude? Yes a bit. But I think your medical situation is going to naturally make you more sensitive to comments related to your limitations. They would've been very rude if they'd known the reasons for you not walking your dog as much.

So I don't think YABU or YANBU tbh. No you shouldn't have to explain yourself if you don't want to, but I doubt they were judging you and it's not really an issue of them having class, just a silly comment.

I agree they were probably a little thoughtless rather than rude and were teasing rather than judging. I'd imagine though it's made you wonder if others are judging you and if yhe whole world thinks you're lazy. I doubt it, but people will judge and pressume and speculate....its human nature and you probably do that too. I've just read a post about a beggar that the poster knew wasn't really homeless and was capable of getting a job as a waiter.
You did the right thing by not retorting. Well done. I hope it's not too long before you get your transplant. You've motivated me to ensure everyone is aware I'm happy to donate my organs.

Arniesleftleg · 08/05/2023 17:23

Sorry you experienced this. I'd have told them exactly what I was going through just to see their faces drop. Some people are absolute knobs.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 08/05/2023 17:28

They sound like bitches. Across the road have a dog and I see the guy go on several walks a day with it and his wife not so often. It would never ever occur to me to comment on that. It's so stupid and they must have very boring lives.

NoSquirrels · 08/05/2023 17:31

Blimey, who has time to judge which member of the household walks the dog?

Ignore them, OP. Hope you feel better soon. Onwards and upwards.

WomanBitingATowel · 08/05/2023 17:32

Leafytrees · 08/05/2023 15:08

Neither YABU or YANBU. I'm sure they wouldn't have said what they did if they knew what you were going through. You don't have to explain yourself or your medical situation, but it doesn't sound like they were being nasty either, more that they made an unfortunate joke.

This. They made a dopey joke, it hit you on a sensitive spot because you’re feeling so unwell. I imagine they’d be horrified if they knew why you seldom walk the dog, but you’re perfectly entitled not to discuss your health with strangers. Best wishes for the future — a friend’s BIL got a new kidney last autumn, and is a new man these days. Hope it happens quickly for you.

Hurryupandleave · 08/05/2023 17:33

FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 08/05/2023 15:52

Reframe it that you took the higher moral ground.
You could have dropped in about your illness and made them look and feel terrible.
That you didn't was a kindness.
At some point they will hear about your illness, put 2 and 2 together and mentally squirm for the rest of time hopefully.

This, especially the last sentence and the fact that you said nothing will make it even more mortifying for them when they realise just how judgemental and insensitive they have been Flowers

mondaytosunday · 08/05/2023 17:35

What are they doing, monitoring who walks your dog? That in itself is weird.
My daughter has MS. One symptom is extreme fatigue. She looks like a perfectly healthy 17 year old. But she gets tired. I hope people aren't calling her lazy behind her back.

ThinWomansBrain · 08/05/2023 17:43

Wow - I wonder if they make similar judgements about households where the woman is the one doing all the dog walking (& school runs, putting out laundry, gardening....)

On the plus side, a friend of mine had a transplant towards the end of last year, and was feeling so much better is a relatively short space of time, fingers crossed that you get some good news soon.

EnterFunnyNameHere · 08/05/2023 17:48

I totally see why you didn't tell them, as its none of their business, but I don't think I could have helped myself but explain in excruciating detail exactly why I'm not full of boundless energy if I was in your shoes - make them really uncomfortable so they might think twice in future!

But it's not your job to educate people in how not to be a that, so no blame here for taking the higher ground and ignoring them!!

UsingChangeofName · 08/05/2023 17:48

Leafytrees · 08/05/2023 15:08

Neither YABU or YANBU. I'm sure they wouldn't have said what they did if they knew what you were going through. You don't have to explain yourself or your medical situation, but it doesn't sound like they were being nasty either, more that they made an unfortunate joke.

This.

No, you don't have to explain your medical history to anyone, but OTOH, they were just chatting, maybe following on from something they'd been theorising about in their own lives about one of them ending up with all the work to do with their pet or something. It's hit a nerve with you because of your illness, but it wasn't personal nor particularly rude.
Up to you how much you want to share with anyone, including nothing at all, but there are lots of things you could have said, depending on how much you were prepared to, or how pleasant or how rude you wanted to be.

Wingedharpy · 08/05/2023 17:50

Fellow renal patient here.

Your comment about "feeling worthless" while waiting for a transplant sounds very sad, hence, why you're giving the neighbours' tasteless "witticisms" more head space than they deserve.
Is there a Psychologist attached to your renal unit @KidneyWarrior ?
I wondered if you might benefit from some psychological support from them, if there is?

Home PD can be quite isolating - though, it was my treatment of choice too, but I am a control freak.

I would have been so tempted to say " You're both right. I don't walk the dog enough so, which one of you is offering me a kidney so I can get out and about a bit more?"

Good luck.

MyFavouritePlace · 08/05/2023 17:52

Complete and utter arseholes. You definitely didn't to explain anything. How stupid can people be?
Wishing you all the very best.

CovertImage · 08/05/2023 18:01

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 08/05/2023 16:46

“I’m on dialysis, you pair of judgmental cunts,” is what I would have loved for you to have said. But I understand why you didn’t.

Fucking bitches.

“I’m on dialysis, you pair of judgmental cunts,” is what I would have loved for you to have said. But I understand why you didn’t.

Fucking bitches.

Bitches and cunts, lovely bit of misogynist shit there. Long live the sisterhood eh? Well done

MissDemelzaCarne · 08/05/2023 18:16

When you get your transplant you’ll get a new lease of life.
They’ll still be cunts. 😡

gogogoji · 08/05/2023 19:00

Leafytrees · 08/05/2023 15:08

Neither YABU or YANBU. I'm sure they wouldn't have said what they did if they knew what you were going through. You don't have to explain yourself or your medical situation, but it doesn't sound like they were being nasty either, more that they made an unfortunate joke.

They weren't very funny

KidneyWarrior · 08/05/2023 19:12

I don't know why it's bothered me so much. I feel shocking but I feel like I've managed to mostly seem normal, despite dialysis and hospital stays and transplant assessments. I really feel knocked by it, almost like now I have to admit I'm ill.

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Startyabastard · 08/05/2023 19:16

'The rectory'? They'll never get to heaven judging like that!
I hate judgy cunts that jump to the wrong conclusion with their analyses.

cunningartificer · 08/05/2023 20:32

They were incredibly rude, not funny, and visibly mean, as can be seen by your neighbour stopping them. I would be tempted in your position to get your nice neighbour or DH to fill them in briefly when they next see them so that they realise what utter idiots they were, but sympathise that you shouldn't need to share anything you don't want to with them or anyone.

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 08/05/2023 21:28

CovertImage · 08/05/2023 18:01

“I’m on dialysis, you pair of judgmental cunts,” is what I would have loved for you to have said. But I understand why you didn’t.

Fucking bitches.

Bitches and cunts, lovely bit of misogynist shit there. Long live the sisterhood eh? Well done

Oh fuck off, do. Focus on the actual issue at hand, two nasty pieces of work giving a woman shit for not walking her dog as much as they deem suitable. A woman who had too much Grace to tell them she’s on dialysis.

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 08/05/2023 21:32

I called a man a dickhead once (ok, more than once. A lot more than once.) I presume covertimage would find that misandrist.

Incidentally, I use all sorts of insults, utilising all sorts of genitalia, and use them for absolutely everyone. Gender and sex not specific. I’m nothing if not inclusive.

LT2 · 08/05/2023 21:35

I wanted to vote both really. No, you shouldn't have to tell them, of course. But I'd want them to know they were being dicks, which I'm sure they'd feel with knowing the truth. Horrid women!

KidneyWarrior · 08/05/2023 21:49

@Tiddlypomtiddlypom Part of me wishes I'd said something. But my overriding instinct was not to cause unpleasantness, especially to our lovely neighbours who had planned the event. But I've felt awful today, they must be watching my house, and judging that DH does more than me. And I feel awful that I was told our dog is not really my dog. It was so rude. Would she have liked it if I said her children were more her DH's than hers? This is the first time I have ever met this woman.

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