Page 3 | Don't mind Charles

loftconversi0n · 2023-05-06T20:01:09+00:00

This is probably rather controversial. But I really don't mind King Charles. I think society advanced more quickly than the monarch could keep up with and as a consequence the Queen made some poor decisions regarding her children. She must bear some responsibility for what happened with Diana. He also made some poor choices but I think he has done incredibly well tk stay motivated driven all these years waiting. I also feel like I know more about him than the queen. His interests in organic farming etc. never really knew anything about the queen. Not perfect but I think better than an elected head of state that only cares about themselves. Anyway, that's it really. Al the hate being spewed is a bit too much I think.

AskMeMore · 07/05/2023 01:50

Charles is a stranger to us all, we do not really know him.

But my impression of him is that he truly loves Camilla, he has a terrible temper, drinks too much alcohol and is a fairly weak man. I also think he thinks he is brighter than he is which leads him into some terrible situations. He must also ignore his advisors or he would have stayed well away from some people he has become close friends with.

Belltentdreamer · 07/05/2023 02:08

loftconversi0n · 06/05/2023 22:20

I think it would be a travesty to remove the monarchy from the UK. The rich history and tradition are important and probably are more intertwined in our society than we realise.

And when I have slow times at work and am trying to fill my days , I sometimes risk sinking jnto depression. I think it must be incredibly difficult to be so restricted in what you can do. When my kids were flying down tbe rapids at centre parcs- I felt sad that royal children will probably never experience this that.

Anyway , I digress. I agree he comes across as more vulnerable and also more in touch with the people. I think he has done more with the prince's trust than the Queen actively did? I think waiting this long has us it's benefits for him.

Don’t feel sorry for royal children who grow up with a life of unthinkable privilege and opportunity. Feel sorry for kids in this country who literally have nothing and are going to school hungry. Let’s not forget the reality of the U.K. for many people.

EconomyClassRockstar · 07/05/2023 02:14

I really would love to see how it would go down in rl on MN. A guy marries a 19 year old when he is 32. He has an affair for his entire married life, whilst his young wife was thrown into a world she didn't understand while having quite substantial mental health issues. He arguably emotionally abuses his younger wife as she finds her feet and becomes substantially more popular than he is. He also arguably uses his sons politically when their 36yo mother dies when they are teenagers. His mistress/now wife uses the media to score points about both his children, whilst feeding old farts like Piers Morgan (aka her bestie) with stories so that both Piers and his 2nd wife earn reputation, promotion and money, all whilst hoping we as a general public forget Piers' disgusting behavior as editor of the popular press.

His son rallies against this as he doesn't want his own children and wife to go through the same and is publicly crucified.

And NOW, we're expected to bow to him and think he is above us all. FUCK THAT!

GoldenAye · 07/05/2023 02:59

crew2022 · 07/05/2023 01:25

I watched him and Camilla in their gold coach, being led by all those guards and horses, looking a bit bored and snooty. I watched them pass the public, in the rain, some who'd been there for hours, and I thought the whole thing is an outdated sh*t show.
What right do they have and what makes them different to anyone else and deserving of all this?
Head of the church but committed adultery
What a joke!

I imagine they are people, really. People capable of emotion, such as love - therefore, adultery - and tiredness, as they are older people, after all, and that ceremony was long. Those crowns are heavy, both figuratively and literally. I imagine they were mightily relieved to get them off.

Toddlerteaplease · 07/05/2023 03:10

JamSandle · 06/05/2023 21:26

I really like him too. I think he will make a great King.

Same here. And I like Camilla as well.

Topseyt123 · 07/05/2023 04:23

I am not particularly royalist. I'm not republican either.

I like Charles and Camilla. I think they will be a good King and Queen. I can't believe some of the utter garbage being spouted on so many threads today.

upandmumming · 07/05/2023 04:25

#NotMyKing

QueenMegan · 07/05/2023 04:29

EconomyClassRockstar · 07/05/2023 02:14

I really would love to see how it would go down in rl on MN. A guy marries a 19 year old when he is 32. He has an affair for his entire married life, whilst his young wife was thrown into a world she didn't understand while having quite substantial mental health issues. He arguably emotionally abuses his younger wife as she finds her feet and becomes substantially more popular than he is. He also arguably uses his sons politically when their 36yo mother dies when they are teenagers. His mistress/now wife uses the media to score points about both his children, whilst feeding old farts like Piers Morgan (aka her bestie) with stories so that both Piers and his 2nd wife earn reputation, promotion and money, all whilst hoping we as a general public forget Piers' disgusting behavior as editor of the popular press.

His son rallies against this as he doesn't want his own children and wife to go through the same and is publicly crucified.

And NOW, we're expected to bow to him and think he is above us all. FUCK THAT!

In spades.

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 07/05/2023 04:38

Erex · 06/05/2023 21:09

Yes, his first "job" in his seventies. Someone to look up to, for sure.

He's been busy and involved all his life.

Mothership4two · 07/05/2023 04:39

Well the (probably) millions that have been spent on his positive PR image are obviously paying off then

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 07/05/2023 04:41

Rockybooboo · 06/05/2023 23:26

But if an elected head of state decided to say side with a regime like the Nazis, you can get rid of them eventually. You're stuck with a monarch.

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There is a history of 'getting rid' of monarchs world wide.

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 07/05/2023 04:45

GoldenAye · 07/05/2023 02:59

I imagine they are people, really. People capable of emotion, such as love - therefore, adultery - and tiredness, as they are older people, after all, and that ceremony was long. Those crowns are heavy, both figuratively and literally. I imagine they were mightily relieved to get them off.

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Nobody was forced to stand in the rain and wave a flag. I mean, I couldn't think of anything worse, but those people wanted to be there.

GrumpyPanda · 07/05/2023 04:59

Not perfect but I think better than an elected head of state that only cares about themselves.

I happen to come from a country with just such an elected head of state and I'm gobsmacked at this sweeping claim that you've backed on, what exactly?

electriclight · 07/05/2023 05:20

I have a good friend who works for one of his charities and I like him more, because of what she tells me. I think he was always working harder than we knew, not just idly waiting to be king. In fact, many accounts over the years claimed that he hoped to avoid it.

Katypp · 07/05/2023 05:25

There are only a few people on this thread who are capable of separating the people from the institution.
The op didn't ask what posters thought about the institution of the Royal Family, they asked what people thought about Prince Charles.
I don't warm to Charles at all and I think he will be an unpopular king once the novelty has worn off. I think he's well-intentioned but has led such a privileged life he can't really understand how others live. William will be the same.
For the record, I do not support the monarchy as an institution but I don't wish harm on any of the actual people, not that I particularly like any of them.

GretaGood · 07/05/2023 05:33

Politics is very divisive nowadays - I live in Scotland with Saint Nichola to look up to 🙄-

Any recent leaders are v divisive, Boris etc and of one party or the other like Trump/ Biden. Again divisive.

So probably better to have an inheriting monarch - - as it’s a bit less divisive.

HoldingTheDoor · 07/05/2023 05:52

Politics is very divisive nowadays - I live in Scotland with Saint Nichola to look up to 🙄

I've got some news for you...

GoldenAye · 07/05/2023 05:54

@howdoesyourgardengrowinmay

Nobody was forced to stand in the rain and wave a flag. I mean, I couldn't think of anything worse, but those people wanted to be there.

I'm not sure I understand your reply in the context of my post. I was discussing Charles and Camilla, not onlookers.

Sprogonthetyne · 07/05/2023 05:57

The marriage to Diana was a massive mistake, but I don't think the mistake was entirely on him. He was told he must marry her and didnt have the strength of will to refuse, which isn't supriseing considering he was raised being told it was his duty. I can't really blame two people who were cohesively forced to marry, despite being ill suited and having other activitie love interests, for not forming a strong marriage. I wouldn't love someone on those terms either.

King's and quite probably Queens have always had extramarital relationships. It was historicly seen as acceptable and somewhat inevitable when marriages were based on politics not love. It was in no was a good, fair or healthy system, but it's how it was. He was just unfortunate to be born at a turning point, so got stuck with the historic system of duty marriage but the expectation of modern marriage values.

howdoesyourgardengrowinmay · 07/05/2023 06:29

GoldenAye · 07/05/2023 05:54

@howdoesyourgardengrowinmay

Nobody was forced to stand in the rain and wave a flag. I mean, I couldn't think of anything worse, but those people wanted to be there.

I'm not sure I understand your reply in the context of my post. I was discussing Charles and Camilla, not onlookers.

Oops, quoted wrong message, sorry

Inkanta · 07/05/2023 06:30

EconomyClassRockstar · 07/05/2023 02:14

I really would love to see how it would go down in rl on MN. A guy marries a 19 year old when he is 32. He has an affair for his entire married life, whilst his young wife was thrown into a world she didn't understand while having quite substantial mental health issues. He arguably emotionally abuses his younger wife as she finds her feet and becomes substantially more popular than he is. He also arguably uses his sons politically when their 36yo mother dies when they are teenagers. His mistress/now wife uses the media to score points about both his children, whilst feeding old farts like Piers Morgan (aka her bestie) with stories so that both Piers and his 2nd wife earn reputation, promotion and money, all whilst hoping we as a general public forget Piers' disgusting behavior as editor of the popular press.

His son rallies against this as he doesn't want his own children and wife to go through the same and is publicly crucified.

And NOW, we're expected to bow to him and think he is above us all. FUCK THAT!

Yes that's the truth!

Gothambutnotahamster · 07/05/2023 10:38

Sprogonthetyne · 07/05/2023 05:57

The marriage to Diana was a massive mistake, but I don't think the mistake was entirely on him. He was told he must marry her and didnt have the strength of will to refuse, which isn't supriseing considering he was raised being told it was his duty. I can't really blame two people who were cohesively forced to marry, despite being ill suited and having other activitie love interests, for not forming a strong marriage. I wouldn't love someone on those terms either.

King's and quite probably Queens have always had extramarital relationships. It was historicly seen as acceptable and somewhat inevitable when marriages were based on politics not love. It was in no was a good, fair or healthy system, but it's how it was. He was just unfortunate to be born at a turning point, so got stuck with the historic system of duty marriage but the expectation of modern marriage values.

This is a very good take on it and one id not thought of - thanks for sharing.

TheBerry · 06/02/2024 14:11

I like him 🤷🏻‍♀️ Like Camilla too.

For sure he’s made some bad mistakes.

He should’ve divorced Diana sooner. But I guess at the time that was a big no-no. And he should’ve been kinder to her, and more supportive of her, irrespective of whether he wanted to be married to her. I think he may have been a bit emotionally distant towards his sons when they were growing up, too. But, again, a lot of men of that generation are a bit emotionally stunted in some ways.

We’re none of us perfect. We’ve all done shitty things. I like him overall.

Mothership4two · 06/02/2024 15:14

It's difficult to form an opinion as the general public have no idea what they are really like.