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Don't mind Charles

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loftconversi0n · 06/05/2023 21:01

This is probably rather controversial. But I really don't mind King Charles.

I think society advanced more quickly than the monarch could keep up with and as a consequence the Queen made some poor decisions regarding her children. She must bear some responsibility for what happened with Diana. He also made some poor choices but I think he has done incredibly well tk stay motivated driven all these years waiting. I also feel like I know more about him than the queen. His interests in organic farming etc. never really knew anything about the queen.

Not perfect but I think better than an elected head of state that only cares about themselves.

Anyway, that's it really. Al the hate being spewed is a bit too much I think.

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CaspianPlover · 06/05/2023 23:04

Might I suggest you google the top ten elected dictators, I am sure they would be most caring for the poorest in their society.

Helpmuchneeded · 06/05/2023 23:05

loftconversi0n · 06/05/2023 22:20

I think it would be a travesty to remove the monarchy from the UK. The rich history and tradition are important and probably are more intertwined in our society than we realise.

And when I have slow times at work and am trying to fill my days , I sometimes risk sinking jnto depression. I think it must be incredibly difficult to be so restricted in what you can do. When my kids were flying down tbe rapids at centre parcs- I felt sad that royal children will probably never experience this that.

Anyway , I digress. I agree he comes across as more vulnerable and also more in touch with the people. I think he has done more with the prince's trust than the Queen actively did? I think waiting this long has us it's benefits for him.

Well from what I understood (may be wrong) but any laws being passed has to be agreed by king and government.. which I prefer. If you had a corrupt government and they wanted to change laws no one could oppose it. But at least having two people to agree on law makes it less likely a very disastrous one would happen? I'd feel very uncomfortable if only one viewpoint had complete power and control. I know government is made up of a party, but they all have the same objective. Unless each party came together to discuss laws but I don't think that happens. As only party in power essentially have power and can over rule.

Flowertight · 06/05/2023 23:08

@Helpmuchneeded the monarchy (rightly) have absolutely no say in the laws. Technically they do but reality is this would be fucking insane and they don’t .

also don’t forget the royals sided with Hitler at first. Why would you assume an unelected billionaire with no contact with reality is a voice of reason?

Manicwithmoney · 06/05/2023 23:12

I prefer Charles to William... still not keen on Camilla though!

Rockybooboo · 06/05/2023 23:12

lljkk · 06/05/2023 21:24

I wonder if the stupidly unpleasant posts are supposed to convince ppl like me to like KC more. It's working. Well done!

That's a very strange way to form your opinions on life.

Helpmuchneeded · 06/05/2023 23:17

Flowertight · 06/05/2023 23:08

@Helpmuchneeded the monarchy (rightly) have absolutely no say in the laws. Technically they do but reality is this would be fucking insane and they don’t .

also don’t forget the royals sided with Hitler at first. Why would you assume an unelected billionaire with no contact with reality is a voice of reason?

I just thought that's what happened, hence me saying I maybe wrong, it's not a big opinion of mine...and I'm pretty sure Charles wasn't around when Hitler was here... didn't think people are clones of their relatives, else everyone related to a criminal would also be written off. Plus what how is our current pm any different? Didn't he go to the best private schools and richer anyway? Don't think he has much knowledge of working class. But I don't think the class your born into automatically describes you as a person anyway. Some rich people are great same as poor... vice Versa. You can't just clump people together on assumptions.

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loftconversi0n · 06/05/2023 23:19

I @Flowertight - that was written badly. I meant when I am not busy and have too much time to sit and dwell, I can start to have a low mood. So for someone who was unable to 'work' or do what they wanted and was waiting flr 70 years. I would have long been depressed. He must have strong mental health

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Rockybooboo · 06/05/2023 23:26

Helpmuchneeded · 06/05/2023 23:17

I just thought that's what happened, hence me saying I maybe wrong, it's not a big opinion of mine...and I'm pretty sure Charles wasn't around when Hitler was here... didn't think people are clones of their relatives, else everyone related to a criminal would also be written off. Plus what how is our current pm any different? Didn't he go to the best private schools and richer anyway? Don't think he has much knowledge of working class. But I don't think the class your born into automatically describes you as a person anyway. Some rich people are great same as poor... vice Versa. You can't just clump people together on assumptions.

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But if an elected head of state decided to say side with a regime like the Nazis, you can get rid of them eventually. You're stuck with a monarch.

mbosnz · 06/05/2023 23:29

I think he's a whiney, over privileged little sod, who thinks about no one but himself. He doesn't realise just how privileged, and wealthy he is, and is always grasping for more. He has no sense of duty, just a sense of privilege.

Flowertight · 06/05/2023 23:36

and I'm pretty sure Charles wasn't around when Hitler was here... didn't think people are clones of their relatives, else everyone related to a criminal would also be written off. Plus what how is our current pm any different? Didn't he go to the best private schools and richer anyway? Don't think he has much knowledge of working class

oh gosh @Helpmuchneeded what an apt name! No, Charles wasn’t around or involved with the Second World War - it was a demonstration on why an unelected Royal Family shouldn’t be able / be relied upon to be a voice of reason.

Secondly, Rishi is an absolute cunt, agreed. But do you understand the Conservatives are voted in? It’s a shame there are so many thick people out there doing this, but it isn’t a reason to suggest an unelected Billionaire should have the final decision on your - and the country’s’ - lives instead of someone the country actually elected. Jesus Christ

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loftconversi0n · 06/05/2023 23:39

@mbosnz how is is Whiney?

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loftconversi0n · 06/05/2023 23:40

@Flowertight I think you are exaggerating his sphere of influence. The monarchy pretty much does as they are told by parliament. They are more symbolic than anything

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mbosnz · 06/05/2023 23:41

He's always been very self pitying. Poor Charles, having a private education, a beautiful wife, able to indulge in all his hobbies - and yet having to endure a sputtering pen, and what he deemed insufficient financial support. . .

mbosnz · 06/05/2023 23:42

And yes, the constitutional crisis with Johnson showed how incapable of the job of being a check on parliament the monarchy is.

Flowertight · 06/05/2023 23:51

@loftconversi0n eh? I know this, the other poster is arguing that they are / should be the voice of reason if the elected government don’t behave properly. My whole post argued against this - I don’t get what you don’t understand!

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loftconversi0n · 07/05/2023 00:01

@Flowertight it was in response where you said an ' unelected billionaire should have the final decision on your - and the country’s’ - lives instead of someone the country actually elected.'

Sorry if I misunderstood.

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loftconversi0n · 07/05/2023 00:01

@mbosnz he has complained directly to you? Or you read in the daily mail?

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Catsmere · 07/05/2023 00:05

I like him. Always have.

Gothambutnotahamster · 07/05/2023 00:10

Sissynova · 06/05/2023 21:10

Not perfect but I think better than an elected head of state that only cares about themselves.

You think rule by birth right is better than an elected head of state?

Yes - I absolutely do. Couldn't bear another lying self serving politician.

QueenSmartypants · 07/05/2023 01:00

Despite my moniker, I am no lover of monarchy. Regardless of his inherited position as King, I quite like Charles.

Helpmuchneeded · 07/05/2023 01:15

Flowertight · 06/05/2023 23:36

and I'm pretty sure Charles wasn't around when Hitler was here... didn't think people are clones of their relatives, else everyone related to a criminal would also be written off. Plus what how is our current pm any different? Didn't he go to the best private schools and richer anyway? Don't think he has much knowledge of working class

oh gosh @Helpmuchneeded what an apt name! No, Charles wasn’t around or involved with the Second World War - it was a demonstration on why an unelected Royal Family shouldn’t be able / be relied upon to be a voice of reason.

Secondly, Rishi is an absolute cunt, agreed. But do you understand the Conservatives are voted in? It’s a shame there are so many thick people out there doing this, but it isn’t a reason to suggest an unelected Billionaire should have the final decision on your - and the country’s’ - lives instead of someone the country actually elected. Jesus Christ

I think you are mistaken... that's is not at all my opinion and I stated that. I literally said what I thought was the case, even clarified it's not accurate. I don't care if you want to create a whole new system to oppose laws. I was just saying as it currently stands a king can oppose them. I prefer that someone... anyone can. I just thought that it's unfair to dislike and make assumptions of people by birthright...if everyone has a mindset that your identical in views as your relatives somewhere down the line we are all buggered. My great grandad was an arse in a different era, I'm most certainly not like him in any way.

crew2022 · 07/05/2023 01:25

I watched him and Camilla in their gold coach, being led by all those guards and horses, looking a bit bored and snooty. I watched them pass the public, in the rain, some who'd been there for hours, and I thought the whole thing is an outdated sh*t show.
What right do they have and what makes them different to anyone else and deserving of all this?
Head of the church but committed adultery
What a joke!

SammyScrounge · 07/05/2023 01:33

I think Charles is a kindly well intentioned sort of person. He must be an interesting person to talk to because he is interested in such a variety of things.
I liked the stories about him returning to the scenes of the Tottenham riots again and again while politicians paid a flying visit and never came back. Charles talks so naturally to people.
I hope things go well for him.

doctorfester · 07/05/2023 01:38

I dislike the concept of the royal family.

I didn't watch the coronation as it sickens me to see a man in a gold carriage whilst kids in the UK are starving!

However, I don't dislike Charles. If we've GOT to have a King then he's not so bad. Imagine ... we could have ended up with Prince Andrew!!!!

AskMeMore · 07/05/2023 01:48

Diana took William and Harry down the log flume at Alton Towers. I am sure they could go on similar rides at Centre Parcs if they wanted to. No need to feel depressed about it.