so this is why we voted for Brexit, to torture animals pointlessly

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The government is now free of the EU legislation banning experiments on animals for purely cosmetic reasons, rather than for medical advances.

So now animals can be experimented on to develop totally unnecessary new cosmetics.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65484552

YANBU - this ban should have remained in place forever,

YABU - this might give the UK an edge over competitors who are not allowed to base their products on cruelty - and this is what we want

Yanbu

That is horrific.

This is inhumane and completely needless.

It's not nice, but if it was done to align with eu policy I'm not sure if it's a brexit thing.

it is 100% a |Brexit thing, it is being allowed in the UK now, becasue we have left the EU. It is banned in the EU, quite rightly

“But in 2020 the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA), an EU agency which oversees chemical regulation, ruled that companies needed to test some ingredients used in cosmetics on animals to ensure they were safe for workers manufacturing the ingredients.
During the case it was revealed that since 2019 the government had been issuing licences for animal testing of cosmetic ingredients in line with EU chemical rules, which it retained despite leaving the EU in 2020.”

The article even starts with:
“The government has allowed animal testing for makeup ingredients to resume despite a 25-year ban.
It changed a policy on animal testing to align with EU chemical rules, according to a High Court ruling”.

I abhor animal testing and am completely anti Brexit, but I think you've got the wrong end of the stick here. The point is that even though we're now liberated from the "shackles" of the EU 🙄, we're choosing to align with the shitty EU regulations around animal testing. This was an example of how Brexit might have been used for positive change, but of course we're not, because our government doesn't actually give a toss about anything other than making money for the very rich.

Simple answer..don't use the products. I'm 56, never used 'products' beyond shampoo, soap/ gel and use non animal tested ones.

Whilst I agree that it is horrific and it definitely should still be banned, I'm pretty sure that most people who voted for Brexit weren't thinking 'I know, I'll vote leave so that animal testing can resume'.
So I haven't voted either Yabu or yanbu as your title seems misleading.

It's nothing to do with Brexit - we are literally copying EU law.

Brexit actually means we don't have to copy EU law.

I will of course be pointing this out to brexiteer relatives who tried to whitewash their racist motivations to leave by claiming that they were voting for environmental and animal protection reasons.

But animal welfare law is red tape, didn't you know?

I think you’ve got the slight wrong end of the stick here Nimbo.

The EU changed its rules in 2020 to allow animal testing in certain specific circumstances. The UK is aligning with that.

I think we’re going to see a lot of this — aligning with EU laws/rules despite being outside it. The EU is still our closest (and in many sectors largest) market, so it’s going to be necessary for basic trade to align regulations to our closest trading partner.

So while this is disappointing from an animal welfare point of view, it has nothing to do with Brexit. (And I loathe Brexit with the fire of a thousand suns.)

Why? The EU have legislated for it to be this way. If we were in the EU it would be compulsory for our government to comply.
The Tory government have voluntarily done this. However, if people put enough pressure on the government to get rid of this in UK then it could be scrapped as it is not compulsory for us to comply with it.

it was the EU that banned animal testing of cosmetics in the first place, and the UK had to go along with it, as we were in the EU at the time

Maybe if people stopped spending money on the cosmetics that were tested on animals that would be the best protest

Unless people think they are exempt for making right decisions?

I find animal testing for cosmetic reasons abhorrent, but we are aligning with EU laws on this.

I know quite a few people who have always been concerned around the EU laws on animal welfare long before the referendum

as you are now aware op you have got this wrong

And now the EU have reintroduced it.

This is an odd take.

How would staying in the EU have helped when it is EU legislation?

To clarify, EU legislation driving the change. If we were in the EU we would have implemented it so being in the EU wouldnt have been positive for animal welfare in this instance.

This isn't strictly true. The ban was implemented in the UK (1998) before the EU (2013).

https://www.understandinganimalresearch.org.uk/regulation/cosmetics#:~:text=A%20ban%20on%20animal%2Dtested,ban%20taking%20effect%20in%202013.

Or, at least, it's true but we pressed ahead with the ban before the EU did.

Historically the UK has had stricter animal welfare rules than the EU. See for example the rules on producing foie gras, or banning basic battery hen cages.