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To feel disgusted with this article when families are being made homeless every day

98 replies

Strawberrydelight78 · 03/05/2023 00:34

I just feel it's in bad taste and they shouldn't be publishing they're success. They are getting stick for it.

www.lancs.live/whats-on/whats-on-news/fresh-thinking-lake-district-couples-26823735

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MintJulia · 03/05/2023 22:21

Working on that basis OP, you could object to every hotel & B&B because people own houses that have 6 spare bedrooms.

The couple in question probably have a massive business mortgage, and in order to pay that mortgage and to continue to pay their cleaners, maintenance men and gardeners, they need all the advertising they can get.

crackofdoom · 03/05/2023 22:23

Yeah, living in Cornwall I get it OP.

And no, tourism does not a sustainable economy make, even in Cornwall it only constitutes 17% of GDP, at the expense of pushing most housing out of the reach of locals. We'd be better off investing in green industries which would provide good quality jobs all year round, rather than being expected to be grateful because someone buys a few scones off someone on a zero hours contract when they come down to stay in their second home for a few weeks every year 🙄

sst1234 · 03/05/2023 22:34

Can you not read OP? Or is this a goady thread. They’re running a business. Even if they owned 11 homes to live in, curb your jealousy.

Coxspurplepippin · 03/05/2023 22:41

The couple don't own the houses, they're managing the holiday letting business for the owners.

Mumandcarer · 03/05/2023 23:47

Thank you at last someone gets it.👏👏👏👏

Redebs · 03/05/2023 23:48

Yes. It's pretty disgusting

Miri13 · 04/05/2023 03:21

YABU!

Shoxfordian · 04/05/2023 06:10

Yabu op; those holiday cottages look nice and they’re employing locals; using local produce as well.

GCAcademic · 04/05/2023 06:16

No one should be allowed to go on holiday unless it’s in a tent. It’s immoral.

ArmchairAnarchist2 · 04/05/2023 06:25

That boat sailed for most of my generation years ago. I was born in Cumbria and all of my aunts and uncles still live there. My parents are deceased. Apart from one family whose parents bought their DC homes locally, the rest of my cousins moved for college and never went back. The house prices are eye-wateringly expensive compared to most wages.

bellac11 · 04/05/2023 07:29

Its something we do really well in the UK, slag off successful and aspirational people.

Emotionalstorm · 04/05/2023 07:50

Ah yes OP, this sounds like just the regular hating of anyone who isn't struggling to afford food and heating on mumsnet.

Blossomtoes · 04/05/2023 08:45

ArmchairAnarchist2 · 04/05/2023 06:25

That boat sailed for most of my generation years ago. I was born in Cumbria and all of my aunts and uncles still live there. My parents are deceased. Apart from one family whose parents bought their DC homes locally, the rest of my cousins moved for college and never went back. The house prices are eye-wateringly expensive compared to most wages.

They are everywhere. That’s not just becoming of the tourist industry. Tourism is now the main industry in places like Cornwall, the Lake District and some parts of Scotland. Holiday cottages make me much less angry than second homes that lie empty for most of the year, now that is a disgrace.

YukoandHiro · 04/05/2023 08:49

It's an advert.

Yes, it's native content, but they've paid for it. Literally an advert for their business. So you are being unreasonable.

inamarina · 04/05/2023 09:14

GoneTillNovember · 03/05/2023 16:12

The people using the holiday homes probably aren't putting much into the local economy either

Strong disagree. They are on holiday! It's not just eating out, it's shopping, coffees, visiting attractions, filling up with petrol, whatever. If they can't rent a holiday home in that location, they'll go somewhere they can and spend £££ there.

Exactly. Do some people think second home owners/ holiday makers arrive from London or wherever with packets of rice/ dry pasta and tinned tomato sauce?
We stayed in the Lake District last year, went for a family pub meal at least once, for drinks in the local pub, bought coffee, bread and pastries from the local deli and the Coop, some gifts and even clothing. And I really didn’t get the feeling we were an exception.

LBFseBrom · 04/05/2023 09:36

Erex · 03/05/2023 01:10

They shouldn't be getting stick for it. How do we choose which successful people are "allowed" to be successful, and which aren'?

I quite agree! There is so much resentment towards people who are enterprising or who 'have' things. Material wealth, or lack of it, never determines the character of a person. There is good in everyone and meanness in many regardless. Being jealous achieves nothing and we don't always know what hardships people have endured in the past.

Blossomtoes · 04/05/2023 09:41

YukoandHiro · 04/05/2023 08:49

It's an advert.

Yes, it's native content, but they've paid for it. Literally an advert for their business. So you are being unreasonable.

It would say it was paid for if that was the case. It’s PR, related but different. They haven’t paid for it.

endofthelinefinally · 04/05/2023 09:44

Blossomtoes · 04/05/2023 08:45

They are everywhere. That’s not just becoming of the tourist industry. Tourism is now the main industry in places like Cornwall, the Lake District and some parts of Scotland. Holiday cottages make me much less angry than second homes that lie empty for most of the year, now that is a disgrace.

I agree with this, but what does infuriate me, and it is issue where I live, is the number of new build flats bought by foreign nationals at inflated prices and left empty.

LBFseBrom · 04/05/2023 10:05

Strawberrydelight78 · 03/05/2023 12:52

Exactly this and in popular tourist towns tenants were also evicted when lockdown was eased and we could travel. So that greedy landlords could make more money renting out as holiday accommodation. It's not something I would want to publish when people can't keep a roof over they're head's.

"....head's" what? Greengrocer alert :-).

You don't know what people give to or how they help others privately. However I agree it is bad when people are evicted from their homes in order to raise rents higher than they can afford, there should be a cap on that. I feel that as long as the mortgage is paid and enough on top of that for repairs, replacements of fittings, agent fees, service charges if flats, etc, that should be sufficient. The property is still an investment and can be sold with tenant, when tenant moves on or at some time in the future.

I let a modern second floor flat (mortgaged), in a very nice area to a working couple who are in their late fifties; it has two bedrooms, one with ensuite plus a 'family bathroom', spacious living room stretching from front to back of small block with windows at either end, very nice fully fitted kitchen, hall, storage, a parking space and visitors' car park. This came about when someone very close died, I didn't set out to own another property and I don't publicise it. On here is OK because I am anonymous. I charge £650 pcm which covers all mentioned in previous paragraph except agent fees because I let privately to people known. My tenants absolutely love it! I have no intention of selling for the foreseeable future but if I did want to they, or their son, would have first refusal. If/when I die mine would do the same.

Am I greedy? I don't think so.

Holiday lets are a different matter of course but I don't think it's a bad idea in principle, it is a way to make a living after all and some people are good at it. I would find that a headache but I'm old :-).

ejbaxa · 04/05/2023 10:22

Strawberrydelight78 · 03/05/2023 19:51

Tell that to the students of university of Cumbria not able to find accommodation in the lakes.

Most student areas are struggling for accommodation - that's not a unique situation. Bristol Uni have bussed people in from Wales!

This couple are running a business providing holiday accommodation that people want. It's not like they have 11 spare properties for themselves that they decide to spend one month of the year in each.

VapeVamp12 · 04/05/2023 10:27

How dare they be successful!

This race to the bottom trend is so depressing.

Winter2020 · 04/05/2023 12:21

I for one am glad to see double/triple/quadruple council tax being introduced for empty homes in some areas. I’m glad to see the start of holiday lets needing planning permission and pressures for them to be let x number of nights to receive perks. I hope to see these measures widened and increased.

Anti landlord legislation has encouraged landlords to sell up but there are people that need to rent and a huge lack of social housing. I would be very pleased to see the number of empty homes and holiday lets driven lower by cost and legislation pressures and returned to the residential market whether to buy or rent.

I think cost of living pressures on people booking holidays will also result in mediocre properties experiencing a drop in bookings and they might choose to leave the market.

We rent out our (only) home permanently to a family. (We are lucky to rent ourselves from family elsewhere in the country when we had to move). We could charge more for a week in the summer than a month of normal rent but I wouldn’t dream of it (and we are fairly low income). I love the area, I love the community I wouldn’t dream of adding to the crisis of housing in the coastal area I love. I’ve been the person living and working in the area and competing for a rental.

Holiday makers can stay in hotels, licensed B&Bs, caravans, lodges and camping - there is no need remove residential property for holiday makers.

If more properties hitting the market cause the value of my house to drop that’s fine with me. It will still be worth one small house. I would rather my kids had some hope of buying one day than my small terraced house becomes worth crazy money.

CelerEtAudax · 04/05/2023 12:24

YABU.

"To quote my wife's grandmother: 'You've been reading those socialist newspapers again!'"

(apologies to Lady Grantham)

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