To think that there would be less anti private school

[Poopoolittlekitten]

sentiment or threads on MN if people using private school were a tiny bit more self aware and didn’t ask for sympathy for rising fees or possible rising fees if Labour take away their false ‘charity’ status?

send your kid private if you want, just don’t come moaning about the costs or claim than anyone can go private if they ‘prioritise’ their child’s education they way you do. Particularly at a time when state school teachers are striking over pay and conditions.
And many, many people are working their socks off just to keep a roof over their family’s head.

YANBU - stop whining and looking for sympathy about your fees!

YABU - my milkman sends his 4 kids private by ‘prioritising’ their education so it’s not just for whiny poshos….

"I don't think buying results is good longterm for children"

Send cheques to AQA by June 30th. £9.99 for an A star. Bs are on special offer - £4.50 while stocks last.

😅😅

‘also private school children are always ‘spoon fed’.’

well, they are. Long term though, IS being tutored, coached, handheld and helped through everything a good thing?

‘"I don't think buying results is good longterm for children"

Send cheques to AQA by June 30th. £9.99 for an A star. Bs are on special offer - £4.50 while stocks last.’

Love, if it was that easy we’d all cheat. Those grades 8 & 9 grades are costing £100k+’and the rest in school fees these days.

The private schools I have experience of do exactly the opposite of spoon feeding - they encourage children to take responsibility for their own work and efforts.

Given you have such vast experience of the education sector, I’m surprised you don’t know how the exam system works. Every child has to sit the same exam with whichever exam board the school uses. You can’t just say “oh here’s some money, please can I have a 9”. The private school children do actually have to answer the questions. I must have missed the part in the prospectus saying that I can buy 8s and 9s.

faffadoodledo
The old chestnut that 'oh but state school children get private tuition' has already been alluded to on this thread. Here is a report which shows that extra private tuition is actually concentrated among families already paying for private schooling

Nevertheless, the majority of clients come from the state sector, e.g. from your link;
Privately-schooled students constitute about 7% of students in England between the ages of 5 and 16. Data from Tutor Hunt for England finds that, of over 13,000 (n=13,170) tutees surveyed across this age range, 14% attended independent fee-paying schools... At A-level, the proportion of [tutees attending independent fee-paying schools] rises to 19%, although it should be noted that the national proportion of privately-educated pupils is also higher at this age, at about 14% of the total.

Absolutely agree, I wasn’t going to bother to reply as I see this all the time, but it’s not my experience of the schools my DC have been to.

DC’s school is selective and they’re anything but spoon-fed. They’re encouraged to think and work independently, parents are under strict instructions not to help with homework, sports day is medals for first, second and third prizes only - no ‘taking part’ medals.

Class sizes are smaller, and I absolutely understand that this helps facilitate a positive learning environment, but I’ve never personally viewed any private school where they spoon-feed or you can buy exam results. Actually they’re really quite competitive, and children who need more help might find it’s not the best environment.

Poopoolittlekitten
Love, if it was that easy we’d all cheat

That's funny - in Year 7 of my dcs' school it was suggested that pupils undertake 32 hours of revision for end of year exams. If only all year 7s had it so easy.

Not all of us would. I have the chance to send them, but don’t and wouldn’t for a free place. Some people might, but the choice doesn’t only boil to down to whether someone can. Personally, it’s just something I just disagree with from a political/social perspective. However, I completely understand why people do, especially with the issues State Schools are facing.

politicians would react to their constituents complaints or risk losing their seats

There must be dozens of MPs in small market towns and semi-rural areas, where private schools are important employers for the local community.

'Let me take the opportunity to remind you that a healthy independent education sector is a corner stone of a free and liberal society, helping to keep the insidious creep of authoritarianism at bay'

Now that did me laugh 😂

You mean children are supported to fulfil their academic potential? And that’s a bad thing? Is it better that children obtain an education despite their school?

@Clavinova that comment was in the context of boosting state education. Obviously if that happened there'd be plenty of jobs for teachers. And auxiliary staff.

That's because your voting options don't even make any sense.

Even if they did, it’s 70% of 477 people. Out of what, 8 million? It’s not like what issues people are allowed to post about it decided by popular consensus, either.

'That's because your voting options don't even make any sense.' okaaaaayyyyyyyy... well 481 people seem to disagree, but perhaps you're right.

Who is more moany though? The few people moaning about school fee increases on a previous thread, or the person starting a WHOLE NEW THREAD to moan about the previous moaners who are not even moaning on this thread anyway. They are not here because the thread is irrelevant and stupid. I'm here to moan about that.

One of your voting options waffled on about milkmen sending 4 children to private school. It’s hardly the basis of a sensible, reliable survey.

Agree OP. I have seen many of these threads recently.

It should be the law on here that you can only discuss the DH, DC, transgenders, the MIL, the Dcat and parking.

DO NOT complain about mortgage rate rises. This will be far too triggering for renters.

DO NOT even mention homes / renovations, gardens, nannies, salaries, holidays, shops. Do not mention anything that someone somewhere may not have or use. It will be filed as moaning. READ THE ROOM or I will start a thread about you.

faffadoodledo
@ Clavinova that comment was in the context of boosting state education

The Sutton Trust report in your link recommends expanding non-profit and state tuition programmes (if you scroll down a bit), but your comment doesn't mention that context at all.

All to the good then @Clavinova

But I was pointing it out because with wearying regularity posters on these threads throw in the 'what about all the tuition state school pupils are bought?' It seems in fact the reverse is currently true.

Poopoolittlekitten
Looking at the Tory cabinet...
mmm, I wonder - could that possibly
mean that private education isn’t actually better, and buying grades doesn’t turn out better educated, well rounded people ready to represent the mostly state educated population?

Of course, the following Tory MPs were all state educated (not an exclusive list):
Liz Truss, Dominic Raab, Gavin Williamson, Priti Patel, Nadine Dorries and Gillian Keegan (Secretary of State for Education).

faffadoodledo
But I was pointing it out because with wearying regularity posters on these threads throw in the 'what about all the tuition state school pupils are bought?' It seems in fact the reverse is currently true

In the Tutor Hunt example up thread (from the Sutton Trust report) - 86% of their tutees aged 5-16 were state educated - 81% of tutees at A-level were state educated.

@cansu thanks, thought I was going senile there for a second.