to wonder why people are so horrible to cyclists that are not breaking the rules?

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Even I get irate at cyclists who go through red lights, pedestrian crossings etc. But how about those that obey the road rules?

This afternoon, cycling with DS14 and DD12, one car honked us whilst overtaking. No reason, apart from the fact that they were delayed by a few seconds as they couldn't go past me within inches to spare. I was riding in the middle of the rode and DD to my left, which is perfectly within the rules.
Minutes later, a road which I always ride in the middle because, if even half a chance, vehicles will overtake without giving any space. A group of pedestrians, shout at us, saying "you should be riding behind each other, what's wrong with you?"??
WTAF???

Why are some people such twats? Luckily (or unlikely) my DCs are used to this, so weren't bothered. Some driver gave my DD (11 at the time) the finger whilst cycling to school. A grown man trying to get one up on a 11yr old girl.

So you agree, it wasn't the cyclists who were the problem

I'm a cyclist myself but when I'm in a car trapped behind them on a hilly windy road o really get the rage. I keep it inside though.

Still, when you live in an area like I do it's frustrating. I've been late for many a work appointment due to being stuck behind one slow cyclist on a country lane. At least tractors regularly pull over.

Reality25, just turning your flimsy argument back around, why are such dangerous vehicles allowed on the road? Should pedestrians get off the road too?

Eh?
When inconsiderate cyclists are holding everyone else up, yes, it's the inconsiderate cyclists who are the problem.

The less cars on the roads the less traffic jams there would be. 99.9% of the time if I’m held up driving it’s other cars holding me up

Pedestrians walk on pavements not the road. They cross the road when it clear or at the lights. Or at least they should. If pedestrians were running around in the road in swarms some undertaking whilst others were overtaking and walking slowly whilst a backlog of traffic built up behind them then yeah, that wouldn't be ok

The first post is not cyclists behaving well, is it? It is a road hogger who could indeed go near the curb rather than choose the middle, and even if it is lawful to go two by two that does not mean it is kind to drivers to do so.

Did you miss the bit where she said her young dd was on the inside?

did you miss all the posts explaining why the primary position is safer to discourage unsafe overtakes

I said five people.

Data & Statistics are what good government policy (inc transport) should be based on.

Why do you think that more cycle lanes are being put in? Why do you think they're bringing in 15 min cities? Why do you think that so many cities are making their centres car-free?

Do you not think there might be a reason??

I couldn't go near the curb even if I wanted to. There were parked cars there taking up half the road.

Yes DD was to my left too

People really do expect us to risk getting a door in the face so they can illegally overtake us.

That is reality.

Actually, cyclists actually have more right to be on the road.

Drivers are there by revocable license.

Cyclists are there by right.

I love these threads because they remind me to have a bit more patience on the road. Sure, it's frustrating if you're in a hurry and you're 'stuck' behind a cyclist but you don't take it out on the cyclist!

I've been knocked off when a door opened on me, so I'm very wary of cycling too close to parked cars.
Can't cycle next to the curb, can't cycle next to a car, can't cycle in the middle of the road, can't cycle in a cycle lane when they are mostly parked on. What on earth are we meant to do 🤔

DH was knocked off by a van door opening. He had to go to hospital, his hand was degloved (don't Google it!!). This was nearly a year ago and he still as issues with that hand.

1. It is not safe for cars/motor vehicles and cyclists to share the same roads in Britain.

2. Cars/motor vehicles are much much more important for society than cyclists.

3. It would be prohibitively expensive to upgrade all roads to be safe for motor vehicles and cyclists to share safely.

4. Ergo cyclists should not be allowed on the roads. OR if we still want to allow cyclists on the road then we should be consistent and repeal most car-safety legislation, and allow economics to be the dictator rather than safety.

You agreed with point 1) and then your lack of sense came at point 2). That's at least better than Frabbits whose lack of sense is still stuck at point 1).

No matter how you try to spin it, you are fundamentally letting your entitlement show. Your version of inconsiderate (just being a cyclist on a road when you want to go somewhere) is not a reason to be pissed off with someone.

If you are unhappy with being held up, you should be unhappy with all the other people holding you up. But you're not. The only person you are pissed off with is the cyclist. And that's because you fundamentally believe cars have more rights than bikes.

You've shown clearly that yours is the narrow minded sense of entitlement that can't even begin to reflect on why they they have such a knee jerk reaction to someone just going about their day, so I'm out.

Hope you enjoy your day in bed.

@Reality25

So the Netherlands doesn't exist then?

But the OP asked about people getting cross with cyclists.
During lockdown, there was much less traffic, of course. But even if it were just me and the group of cyclists blocking the road ahead, I'd still be stuck behind them. And I was, frequently.

Without knowing the route, I can only offer some general reasons:

1. The cycle route isn't as lovely as you may think. The ones near me that are alongside the main roads are often full of debris, eg wing mirrors etc. They often go months or years without being cleaned, so are slick and dangerous.

1. They force you to cross lots of side roads, so can be inconvenient and dangerous as cars are focused on joining the main road, not looking for cycles.

@sylvandweller

My bad...I apologise for misreading your post.
On the subject of cycle lanes, that might well be a case of light the touch paper and stand well back.😬 I have read threads where cyclists come up with every excuse under the sun (some sensible and understandable and others just wildly ridiculous) for not using them.
I am glad that you seem to approve of their existence though (at least I hope that you do) as good cycle lanes must surely alleviate a lot of the issues raised on here.

Thank you! That is so kind of you.

Put some effort into the question and I'll bother with a response. Otherwise it's just a waste of time.

Economically where safe cycling infrastructure has been placed it’s better as cyclists stop & spend. It’s easy to stop as the number one barrier for stopping in a car is storing it and at maximum capacity there isn’t easy parking in U.K.

people on bikes do stop and shop more frequently and will not be tied by parking restrictions either, so spend longer and spend more

thete have been numerous studies on this, not just in U.K. but other places. It’s easy to google Here is an example And herr