To not understand how the UK can afford to pay £250 million for the coronation?

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When there are people reliant on food banks to survive and we are told that there is no money to pay for nurses and teachers pay rises?

Whatever your thoughts are on having a monarchy, having a coronation is unnecessary and was abandoned by other monarchies years ago. If he really wants one, can’t he pay for it himself, given that he has billions of pounds?

The TV revenue, hotel bookings etc etc would all have been the same had we spend just a quarter of this on the coronation.

Utterly wasted money to indulge a very spoilt, very entitled man. So much for his pledge to slim down the royal family. And don't think we have not noticed the revolting Andrew being gradually reintroduced into the public events.

Not sure that the TV money etc would be the same if this was a low key job. TV likes loads of ceremonial and bling.

The money virtually all comes back into the UK economy and helps to stimulate it, so I can't say I'm bothered about it.

One can be annoyed at it all surely?

I’m still furious about Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng losing us £30 billion through their moronic and disastrous mini-budget but it doesn’t mean I am not also fed up about totally unnecessary expense on a Coronation. I have seen first hand what a difference a cheque of £25,000 can have on a small grass roots hands-on local charity.

Fundamentally, what lies at the heart of all of this is the wrong choices and priorities being made, in what is supposed to be a proud democracy. The oldest and youngest, the most frail, the sick, the physically disabled, those with special needs, the most vulnerable members of our society, are being short-changed, overlooked and excluded. Who is bringing attention to that?

Charles could have chosen to
do things very differently.

yes, he could have. I am not royalist, but given we as a society accept the monarchy and it's role this is not something I can get worked up about vs all the other genuinely shitty stuff that's going on with the government and its pending. If you are going to get worked up about spending on the royals then look at all the other expenses that go with it.

You nay-sayers know only too well that Charles wanted and is getting a slimmed down Coronation. Google your bible DM or Express and have a read.

But I take issue with the opinion that we as a society have accepted the monarchy. It’s more like it’s there and we don’t have much active choice or influence over the matter. We are not given the opportunity to vote on the issue. And after seventy years, I think it would have been respectful to have given us a choice about whether we want to be subjects or citizens.

It’s more that the monarchy is an accepted part of the established order and one has to actively object to that in order to diverge from the status quo, but there aren’t many established mechanisms through which you can object.

Well that is a seperate and much bigger issue than the spending on the coronation.

Well I’m not sure it’s entirely separate as Charles was proclamated without any by your leave from his people, which is of course what happens in a hereditary monarchy.

I would argue that all of these issues: the supposedly high born ancestry of the RF, their huge personal wealth, the value of the crown estates, their multiple private and publicly owned properties, the cost of ceremonies funded by the tax payer, are all part of the same issue … that it is assumed we agree to all of it … and I don’t think it’s reasonable any longer to make that huge assumption in this day and age.

Yes I’ve also noticed the sly way they’re trying to reintroduce Andrew. Disgusting. But look how they still try and train our attention on Harry and Megan so we don’t notice.

£250m is famously quite a lot less than one week's contribution to the EU budget, OP. (Which was in itself absolutely tiny in terms of the UK's overall expenditure.

£250 wouldn't even buy everyone in the country a Tesco meal deal.

£250m is only about the equivalent of a month's charges to house the illegal asylum seekers in our hotels and we, the tax payers, find the money for that. I'd rather it was spent on something British, as in the coronation, than wasted funding/hosting people who shouldn't be here and who are no more than a drain on the public purse/services, as well as a potential and realised danger to other people.

Typically US presidential inaugurations cost 100m USD. And can cost a lot more. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-much-does-an-inauguration-cost-and-who-pays-for-what/2016/12/13/d7c1fe96-be48-11e6-91ee-1adddfe36cbe_story.html

We are saving a fortune by not having an elected head of state!

@YDBear

This. ^

May I also add the exorbitant amount of money spend on that shitbox high speed train (HS2,) that only the elite and wealthy will ever be able to afford to use. That's if it's ever completed. Costs laid out already, currently stand at around £100 BILLION. Yet people fuss and moan about £250 million for a Coronation of a Monarch - something we have not forked out for, for 71 years. LMFAO get over yourselves, you sound ridiculous!

To be honest, it's clear to me that SOME people just love to bash the Royal family. No matter what they do - or don't do - it's wrong. They post all this #notmyking #notmyqueen drivel thinking they're soooo original and hipster, like 'screw the establishment.' They sound so unbelievably petulant, and their posts make me cringe. They all sound about 15. It's the kind of naff attitude people have when they're a lot younger, thinking it makes them 'cool' disliking the Royal Family.

The Royal family are NOT going anywhere. Anti-Royalists have been trying to get rid of them for centuries. Never gonna happen. As has been said, they bring in way too much revenue and attention for this country, and IDGAF how arrogant this sounds, everyone in the world knows our Royal family, and most of their names. I bet most people here couldn't name the King of Belgium or the Queen of Spain if their life depended on it. And don't bother saying 'yes I can, their name is.... ' because I know you have googled it.'

YESSS! This! ^

ToHellBackAndBeyond

’illegal asylum seekers’ - AKA: fellow human beings at risk of harm, seeking sanctuary, with no legal way to do this and so then resort to desperate measures just as we all would if our lives, those of our children were in danger and we had the bottle.

Surely better to have someone democratically elected than someone through the accident of birth, regardless of suitability or character. Just seems so wrong.

Good post @PrettyMaybug. You are right, some of these anti RF people come across as rebellious teens. All this #notmyking rubbish - you don't actually have a choice mate, and no-one cares about your opinion, the RF are not going to go away just because some people don't like them!! As for the money, I mentioned in an earlier post that anyone who thinks the money being spent on the Coronation would be put to good use if they opted for a celebratory fish and chip supper instead are beyond naive - it just doesn't work like that. Far more money is being spent all the time on projects which don't benefit the majority of people, but that's just life - deal with it.

All the posts on here recently about how the UK is going downhill, and how other countries are looking on in horror - now there is the chance to showcase the country in a better light - and yet you still moan.

It's a disgrace. Brexit has made the UK look like a nation of nasty, xenophobic fools, so this is designed to make 'us' feel all grand and relevant for a few hours.

The 'it's sooo good for the economy!" is laughable. The economy will be tanking badly for years due to fucking Brexit. This is a grotesquely expensive dead-cat for the flag wavers who say things like 'no one does pomp and ceremony like us!'

I despise the whole idea of the monarchy on principle. The absurd amount of money to crown another bloody monarch when the country/NHS/everything is so desperate is sickening.

You do understand how democracy works don't you? As soon as most people don't want a monarchy it will start being dismantled.

You have absolutely no right to tell people to shut up or that their opinions in a democratic society have no value. You need to do much better than that in defending why we need a royal family. The argument "shut your face they ain't going anywhere" does not win hearts and minds. The number of people who have said they are apathetic about this coronation is significant - you royalists don't have the luxury of such hubris.

However, the argument that people who have real problems with an unelected monarch spending our money to have a big ceremony are miserable is actually quite perceptive. Biggest reduction in living standards since the war, highest tax burden in 50 years, a decade of wage stagnation, soaring poverty, reducing life expectancy - there is plenty to be miserable about and some of us don't really see watching a bunch of toffs have a big party which we aren't invited to but have to pay for as something that will lighten our mood. I think it is needlessly extravagant at a time of financial difficulty for many and it is my right to think so just as many others do.

Would the anti-monarchy people be prepared to put it to a referendum and shut up about it when they lose?

Hahaha @Aslanplustwo - the forelock tugging is strong with this one 😂.

It’s a democracy and he’s not my king. I don’t give a crap what u think, but I’m a citizen not a subject.

@Florenz that again is not how democracy works. But I’m guessing those who support a hereditary monarchy don’t really get democracy in the same way 🤷‍♀️.

He is your King and you are his subject. You can pretend otherwise but those are the facts. You live in the United KINGdom. If you are employed you pay money to HIS MAJESTY's Revenue and Customs every month.

Yeah, cos referendums stop political debate don't they?

I for one would welcome a referendum on this regardless of the outcome. It would actually get the question out into the political spotlight rather than it being pooh-pooh'd by the likes of you as being a fringe issue.

Perhaps the result would be closer than you think. All we republicans would need would be a bus covered in bollocks promises after all.

The anti-monarchy people would be no happier with the public's choice of an elected head of state than they are with King Charles.