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I feel so guilty - AIBU?

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Undermyredumbrella · 29/04/2023 12:20

I can’t rationalise this in my muddled brain right now and am probably being unreasonable.
I don’t want to drip feed so will give a background for context but sorry if it does dribble on.
So, my parents are both 80. We have always been close and they live around the corner from me.
5 years ago my lovely mum was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. This disease is cruel, it’s taken away the adult and left a small child in her place. She is doing ok and still remembers us but is losing her Independence day by day.
My dad is not a natural caring type of man and struggles with everything but does ok. I go round to theirs most days.
I do all of mums paperwork, her hospital and doctors appointments (she has some other health issues), I order and collect her prescriptions, I change and wash their bed sheets, cut mums nails, take mum to and from a day centre once a week and just generally there for them.
Up until last year I was doing all of the above and all of their washing and drying, washing and drying mums hair several times a week etc until I had a mini breakdown over it, needed time off from my part time job as a PA to a disabled lady and wore myself out. Dad is in good health and as much as he didn’t want to do it, I left him the responsibility of their washing and drying and I got a hairdresser in to wash and blow dry mums hair once a week.
My sister, who also lives nearby comes in twice a week, one of those she cleans as she has her own cleaning business and therefore all of the equipment etc and happy to do it.
My parents have a LOT of money invested but my dad refuses to inject any of this into helping my mum even though most of it is inheritance from her parents! Mum also receives attendance allowance which just builds up, hardly touched even though it needs to be used.
Last year I insisted on getting a carer in. The carer has been coming in once a week, for an hour to sit with mum to give dad a little break. He feels the £22 per hour is too much and let her go this week, even though I had told her we need her soon to help mum shower in the mornings!
Mum was also going to a day centre for 3 hours, once a week. I would take and collect her, she loved it even though each week she would forget where she was going and get a little anxious about it but was fine once there as they are wonderful with her. This was £55, again dad said this was expensive so ended it! He then moaned continuously since saying he never gets a minute to himself!! I insisted mum goes back to the day centre as he was letting her sleep on and off all day which is so bad for her, the day centre is good for her brain activity. So a few weeks ago I started taking her back on a Wednesday afternoon 12.30-3pm. At £55 for the afternoon and £7 for a cooked from scratched meal dad thinks this is a rip off, constantly moans.
I am constantly stressed o because of my parents.
The last 6 years have felt like I am wading through concrete. I have had 5 years of school refusal with my (now) 17 year old son, it was so very stressful every morning, the school or GP never helped, he would scream every moaning and say he wanted to kill himself. All the school would do is threaten me with fines, they promised to help but never delivered. I eventually found a counseller myself and things have been better since he left school.
My 15 dd is on a waiting list for an adhd assessment as she too struggles at school and I am forever having SEND meetings etc. My dc are my priority but my dad always moans about them and tells me I do way too much for them and that I am a ‘soft touch’. He seems to think that I should dedicate my time to him and my mum and let my kids get on with it which winds me up something senseless as I brought my dc into this world and whilst I am alive I will always be there for them but dad seems to thinks the roles should be reversed when it comes to him - he has never really done much for me over the years tbh.
We then lost my mil 3 years ago during Covid, she had suffered greatly from bowel cancer and her death was just awful.
Then, last year, I lost my beloved ddog, he was the light of my life and kept me going and I am still grieving so much for him. We now have a rescue, we love him dearly but he is very hard work due to his past history, we are working on him but dad thinks we should give him up, that he takes up too much of my time.
So, basically things have been a tad shit, every day shit I know but it has left me with a lot of struggles.
For decades I have struggled with a functional gut disorder and anxiety/depression, these have all reared their ugly head over the last few years. I now have daily, and very controlling, digestive issues and dispute endless tests and following a strict diet and medication etc I am very much struggling. You can also thrown in the wonderful perimenopause (I am 50) and I can honestly say that I am feeling like a bag of crap every.single.day!
My dad is fully aware of this but doesn’t give a damn tbh. Every time I try to talk about my health issues he changes the subject (usually about him).

Anyhow, one thing my dad goes on about all the time is how much he would like to go back to playing golf, something he did a lot before mum’s diagnosis.

He recently bumped into an old golfing buddy and they agreed to meet up for a game one Wednesday afternoon . I said this was great as mum would be at the day centre and I can pick her up etc to give him the full afternoon.
He rang me up yesterday sounding very upbeat, said he’d arranged to go golfing this coming Wednesday. He then went on to say that he would be leaving at 8.15am (mum and I don’t leave for the day centre until 11.30 when I come over). I said to him how is that going to work? You can’t leave mum on her own for nearly 3 hours (she will stress and panic as her memory is literally 5 minutes long), he then went quiet and said he hadn’t given it any thought. I had him on loud speaker and dh was home. My dad proceeded to put on this quiet, little lost boy/woe is me voice saying that he’d have to ring an cancel. I asked him why he didn’t check with me to see if was convenient for me and that he knows the mornings are not good for me (my digestive issues are so bad in the mornings and I need to be at home and near a toilet, I also have to take dd to the bus stop and walk the dog all bloody difficult when you feel as rough as hell), he said he didn’t give it any thought but sounded so crestfallen so automatically I felt awful. I said why don’t we see if the carer can come back for Wednesday mornings from 8-10.30 I can then get there at 10.30 and take over. He said absolutely not, he’s not laying out £22 per hour and if I can’t do it he’ll ring my dsis and get her to do it then he’ll pay her and she can clean. I said she works full time, you know that and has clients to commit too, she can’t just give up work. He said he would still ask her (I checked with her and she said absolutely not).
My husband was fuming (my dad winds him up with his tight fisted behaviour and sees how much this is stressing me out) and wanted to go round and have a word which has just stressed me even more because I can’t be having a big family upset on top of it all because my dad will never see that he could be unreasonable in all of this and will just get stroppy with me, causing me more anxiety.

I am honestly so bloody worked up over this now. I feel so guilty that my dad had an opportunity to some free time and I’ve said no to helping out.
I have tossed and turned all night but I am also angry that he has £400 fucking grand in the bank and refuses to spend any on getting help in for my mum.

I feel between them, my work, my kids, my dh etc I have a million plates spinning in the air and am ready to let them all come crashing down.

OP posts:
Undermyredumbrella · 29/04/2023 12:23

Sorry, that’s such a long post now I’ve read it back.

OP posts:
SarahLucSc · 29/04/2023 12:25

I’m sorry you’re having such a hard time.

Even if there has been resistance before, it sounds like you need to sit down with your Dad and your sister and have a very frank conversation, laying out boundaries for exactly what you and your sister can and can’t commit to. And speak very frankly about their finances and that the money that came from your Mum’s parents should be used to supplement her care.

Your Dad is taking advantage of you and it sounds he needs things laid out very plainly.

I know that is easier said than done.

Zuyi · 29/04/2023 12:29

YANBU. Golf is hardly an essential.

Do they really have as much money as you think, though? Maybe they lost it.

Ponoka7 · 29/04/2023 12:30

He's financially abusing her. You shouldn't be killing yourself to save your father £22. Her attendance allowance is to help with costs. You've got to focus on you and then your immediate family who live with you. Your Dad will have to get his head around paying for care. You could phone aged concern and ask for advice. If he tries to leave her on her own get SS and the police involved. He is neglecting her needs.

Undermyredumbrella · 29/04/2023 12:32

SarahLucSc thank you. We really do need to do this. We (dsis and I) have tried before but he is so bloody stubborn.
Zuyi Definitely has the money, I go with him to his financial advisor. They also have a house worth around £600 which is far too big for them. Dad has refused to downsize time and time again.

OP posts:
Undermyredumbrella · 29/04/2023 12:34

Thanks Ponoka7 I honestly don’t know why he makes such a fuss over the cost of things as a large chin I will come from mums £90 a week attendance allowance, he doesn’t even want to touch that but I tell him time again that’s mums money and NOT for saving!

OP posts:
Zuyi · 29/04/2023 12:36

Well, then he's being ridiculous. Unless he feels uneasy leaving your mum with a stranger and finds it easier to complain about money than to express his emotions. I suppose it would be hard to see someone you love vulnerable with strangers. Then he would feel guilty playing golf. But if it's one of you daughters then he can go with a clear conscience.

SistersNotCisters · 29/04/2023 12:36

As a op said you need to speak to age concern. Your dad is financially and physically abusing your mum by denying her much needed personal care by keeping her attendance allowance. It's probably not an intentional malicious act but whatever reason it's happening, it is happening. She would probably end up with a social worker to sort things out for her and to be her advocate in getting what's required.

Daleksatemyshed · 29/04/2023 12:38

I've cared for my DM when she had Dementia and it's so hard even when you have carers coming in so you must be at your wits's end @Undermyredumbrella . I'm sorry but your DF is behaving dreadfully, he may be in denial about your DM but to begrudge money for her care is shocking. Tell him a decent care home will cost him at least a £1000 a week so he'd better shape up if he wants your DM to stay at home.
I know it's hard to tackle your own parent but you and your DSis need to make him sit down and talk seriously about your DM and getting carers. Does he not care that he's driving his DC into the ground

SchoolQuestionnaire · 29/04/2023 12:40

Why would he want to spend £22 per hour when he’s got you and your dsis doing it all for free?

Honestly, I know you love your dm and it’s lovely that you want to help but you need to do less. You and your dsis being at his beck and call is actually harming your mum because it allows him to think that he doesn’t have to pay for essentials. Make him realise that he does.

I agree with a pp that this is financial abuse, not just of your dm but of you too because you feel like you have to pick up the slack. He’s selfish and doesn’t value what you are doing. He needs to understand that you aren’t actually obliged to help, you are doing so because you are much kinder and more thoughtful than he is.

MyLifeIsFullOfLemons · 29/04/2023 12:41

His choice to not spend the attendance allowance on care your DM needs so it’s his own fault he’s missing out on golf.

I’d have let DH tell it to him straight tbh. It sounds like he won’t listen to you or DSis so maybe DH could have got through to him.

Selfish, selfish man. So awful he won’t spend money for DM’s benefit and will happily see you run into the ground.

higreen · 29/04/2023 12:44

I’ve not got any constructive advice but he’s being extremely selfish and I’d say in many ways manipulative as you feel obliged to help due to his reluctance to spend on something essential for his own wife. Poor you OP you have a lot on your plate and it must feel so overwhelming and so much to be contending with it all. Sending you lots of love and hope things get easier

Doormatnomore · 29/04/2023 12:45

Ooof I have seen this time and time again. He’s saving all his money and you’re slaving away for free.
you could report him for financial abuse (probably should) but I don’t know how that works out for your mum. Id get together with your sister (great that she’s on the same page). Spell out how many hours you’ve been doing (including all the shopping, calls, research) then show how much that would cost if you didn’t do it (taxis to the day centre, a carer, a lawyer for the legal stuff, a cleaner, a laundry service everything) and tell him your not sacrificing your own family for his nest egg anymore. As blunt as you can be and leave it as that for a couple of days.

also decide what’s best for you, 3 days a week or an hour a day or whatever and leave him to work round that.

there will be tears and tantrums but you can’t carry on. We have a relative who now has a launderette collect and return a load every week, they moan about the cost every week but it gave me a day of my life back and reduced my mental load significantly.

growgrowinggrown · 29/04/2023 12:47

If you and sister both say no would he still go to golf and leave your mother alone?

It sounds like such a difficult situation and is made a million times worse by your father's attitude to money.

I don't know if it would make a difference but is it worth posting in legal and seeing if there is any help there?

I'm thinking along the lines of power of attorney and you being able to access some of her money on her behalf to pay for these things.

TheShellBeach · 29/04/2023 12:51

OP - go to the Elderly Parents board and post on the Cockroach Cafe thread.
You'll get lots of support and advice there from people struggling with similar issues.

SistersNotCisters · 29/04/2023 13:02

In my own experience my dad (61) was dying of cancer. His long time girlfriend (maybe 20 years together?) I'll call her SM, couldn't handle it and pushed back at him needing carers and such. SM hated strangers coming into her house but she also wouldn't do the work herself.
Dad needed cooking for, changing, washing and toileting but she wouldn't do it unless it was when she wanted to and then she would berate my dad for peeing the bed or spilling his dinner. Instead of buying extra sheets, (using his money) she would sometimes leave him without covers until his one bed set was dry by hanging outside. She wouldn't allow use of the tumble dryer because apparently it was expensive.

DSis and I understood that yes it was her house but (full time working) dad had contributed to it and their lives since the moment they got together and still did so with money he had in his accounts. No one wanted her house or money because dad had plenty. More than enough. And yet SM didn't want him to move out. She just didn't want people coming into her house when she wasn't home.

She would leave dad alone in his hospital bed in the conservatory for hours when she went to her PT job and then to her adult daughter's for the day. My dad was unable to move himself and SM really didn't want carers in when she WAS home either.

DSis and I tried to be understanding. The once strong, independent, fit, protective and nurturing man had been stolen away and she'd gone from being the one taken care of to one needing to do the caring. It wasn't what she had signed up for. Dad used to take her all round the world. Now he was stuck, confused and overweight in an ugly hospital bed. Thankfully DSis is a no nonsense ball breaker career woman who bulldozed in, got POA and organised his care in conjunction with a very pushy social worker and some other end of life care expert. They basically told SM to allow the care dad needed or say bye bye as he'd be transferred to a hospice and she could visit him once a week (covid times)

OP, your mum needs a social worker advocate.

ImthatBoleyngirl · 29/04/2023 13:04

YANBU! I feel awful for you and you're doing amazing!

MrsMoastyToasty · 29/04/2023 13:11

I think you need to take a step back and your sister too, and let him realise the reality of refusing outside help. At the moment you're both filling the gaps left by professional carers. You can't pour from an empty cup. Take a weeks holiday at the same time as DSIS and be too far away to be on hand.

Pashazade · 29/04/2023 13:16

If it's all about the money then informing him of the awful costs of a nursing home as a PP said may be the way forward. Also does it count as benefit fraud if you fail to spend carers allowance? Tell your Dad he would be liable if it is. Do you have POA, it would probably be the way forward but I'm guessing your mum can't consent now......? Hope you manage to find a way forward.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/04/2023 13:17

Your Dad is very much the problem here.

I agree he’s financially abusing your Mum but hoarding up money that is hers and/ or meant for her. It needs to be spent on her needs.

I wonder if there’s a way you can get control of her finances so that the spending is within your gift rather than his?

Choconut · 29/04/2023 13:26

He sounds like an abusive arsehole, I've no idea why you would feel guilty, probably because he raised you to. I do feel really bad for you mum though, he is financially abusing her. Maybe you need to take another big step back (like you did wit the washing) and he will need to step up or allow help. At the moment you and your sister are enabling him to be an arsehole.

Heartsnrainbows · 29/04/2023 13:26

Let your partner have a word with him. It's not like it doesn't need to be said and it will take the pressure off you a bit. But absolutely stop being so available. My boss said to me once that as long as I keep plugging the gap, they will never sort the staffing issue. So I stopped and after a month they hired someone new. This is what your dad is doing. He won't pay someone when he can guilt you into it for free.

noctu · 29/04/2023 13:34

Stop it ALL and let him come to his own realisation.
Speaking as someone who has gone through very very similar with it destroying our family.
This is the only way people like this learn. They see things in black and white, so give them black and white.
I don't mean this to sound harsh BTW but I can't put it any other way.

DucksNewburyport · 29/04/2023 13:50

Your dad is being completely unreasonable and very selfish! I would be furious about this OP.

Bearpawk · 29/04/2023 14:00

I'm fuming on your behalf op.
Time for a frank conversation - I'd say in no uncertain terms that him hoarding her attendance allowance is financial abuse and you and ds can not be providing unpaid care anymore on top of managing your own health and issues. So either you look at moving her into a home which will cost a fortune or he starts paying for proper care in the home.
Honestly - stop bending over and killing your self for fear of upsetting him. It's making you physically unwell and affecting your family !