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To wonder how kids had downtime before TV

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someladdersandsnakes · 26/04/2023 21:06

I saw a post earlier on a Facebook group from someone who had managed to keep their 3 year old screen free, until out of desperation recently she started giving her one cartoon a day so she could put the younger child down for a nap. And she feels she's destroyed her kid's creativity. And most people were saying it's admirable you've managed this long but go easy on yourself because screen time is incredibly helpful and gives your child a chance to wind down too.

Now I see a moderate amount of screen time as pretty much essential to my own parenting. It's not just that it gives me time to get things done without being interrupted. There are also times particularly after a long day at nursery when my DD seems too tired to engage with play, and can't maintain interest in anything and just needs TV/tablet to zone out a bit. And this seems pretty normal/common to me.

So I'm just wondering, before TV was invented (and/or if you're genuinely a screen free parent but I've never met one of those) what did young kids do when they were too frazzled to play? Were they more creative than modern kids and just played nicely anyway? Or did they sit there whinging? What if they were ill? Did they just lie in bed staring into space? I'm a 90s kid and always had TV so I have no idea and cannot imagine this world 😂

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Kazzyhoward · 27/04/2023 19:48

@someladdersandsnakes

Did they just lie in bed staring into space?

No, they read books! No better way than winding down and drifting off to sleep than with a book in your hand. Picture books and simple words when very young, or better still, being read to by a parent, and then getting bigger/harder books as the child gets older.

Also writing, i.e. keeping a diary, writing their own stories, etc. Our DS was into Thomas the tank engine and Bob the Builder and would write his own stories at bedtime, very, very simple stories, just a few words at first with hand drawn pictures.

BertieBotts · 27/04/2023 19:51

When I turn TV off for my kids if they are exhausted they just play in less energetic ways! You don't NEED TV to keep them occupied.

It is nice to stop whining. And I think it's nicer than threatening to slap them which is probably what parents did before TV was invented (if they didn't just turf them outside).

Kazzyhoward · 27/04/2023 19:52

Namethischange · 27/04/2023 19:00

Left to their own devices children can be amazingly creative. Even from a young age I was creating stories with my toys. My sister joined in as she got older. With 6 years between us, as I got older and spent a lot of my time outdoors my sister, aged about 5 or 6, would be trailing along behind me as I was under orders from Mum to look after her. We played "horses" and also a lot of cowboy and indians stuff. She usually had snot running and little mittens hanging out of the sleeves of her coat, attached together with a bit of wool running up and over her shoulders. That's my abiding memory of her anyway. 😂

Yes, I remember my own young childhood in the late 60s/early 70s spending an awful lot of time on my bedroom floor playing with matchbox cars, lego, etc., building small towns to run my cars around!

Hardbackwriter · 27/04/2023 20:36

Kanaloa · 27/04/2023 14:15

Not in my experience. Both in schools and nurseries I’ve worked in, role play and ‘playing houses’ is still a huge thing. You be the mummy and I’m the daddy, pretend to be sick and I’m the doctor, let’s be xyz from this and so on and so forth. I think people like to imagine the new generation is so much less than - less creative, less intelligent, less imaginative. But when I was young we heard all the same stuff and it’s simply not true. Kids now play lots of the same games I played at that age.

Completely agree. I actually find it really fascinating watching people my age (born in the 80s) say all the things that I remember were said about us as children - spoilt, too much stuff, too much tv, no work ethic, no manners - about children today and how they genuinely seem to believe that it wasn't true then but now - oh well now really is the fall of civilization. People seem to have now accepted that Gameboys didn't turn us all into braindead reclusive while still believing that the next technological turn is the one that will rip apart the fabric of society.

lljkk · 27/04/2023 20:48

1970s-80s for me: reading, drawing, imaginary play, designing houses (with lego or sea shells), more reading, long walks with the dog, playing out, more reading, keeping a diary, playing out, role play, puzzles... I had an adult monthly puzzle magazine subscription (word search, crosswords, logic puzzles & so on) that I devoured each month, for about 5 years, maybe age 9-14. We used to write our own ad lib stories, backgammon, cuddle the cat, mooch around, raid the fridge, ferret in our parent's drawers, raid my parents' shelves for reading material.

READING is the big thing displaced by DC watching too many videos on their phones.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 28/04/2023 00:11

Did anyone in the 80s read Trixie Belden?

I remember buying a new one at the supermarket and devouring it, and then waiting for the next one the following week.

Saracen · 28/04/2023 01:43

I don't think small children used to get so frazzled and overstimulated, because they were usually looked after at home rather than spending a long day at nursery.

Stompythedinosaur · 28/04/2023 01:49

Suzannargh · 26/04/2023 21:35

TV/screen time is very much linked with ADHD, lack of self-regulation, lack of creativity and inability to visualise things in one’s mind. Society’s already changed so much with a generation having phones and handheld screens as opposed to a family TV.

Do you mean that screen time is linked to having ADHD? Because that is definitely not correct.

EveryWitchWaybutLoose · 28/04/2023 02:02

Gosh @someladdersandsnakes theres a lack of imagination in your opening post. I grew up before screens and so did most of the DC in the next generation of my family.

we read books, or were read to, or read to DC

we painted, as DC and with DC

we played with toys

we went outside and on “adventures”

we” helped” or were “helped” with cooking & other household chores and things like watering the garden etc.

Of course, all of this requires us as parents to put down our own screens, read, paint, see - whatever. And some imagination. But I have wonderful memories of lying on the floor with a 2 year old, driving toy trucks and drawing bulldozers!

myveryownelectrickitten · 28/04/2023 02:03

Can’t believe no-one’s posted this classic by Roald Dahl yet (from Charlie & the Chocolate Factory):

”’What used the darling ones to do?
'How used they keep themselves contented
Before this monster was invented?'
Have you forgotten? Don't you know?
We'll say it very loud and slow:
THEY ... USED ... TO ... READ! They'd READ and READ,
AND READ and READ, and then proceed
To READ some more. Great Scott! Gadzooks!
One half their lives was reading books!
The nursery shelves held books galore!
Books cluttered up the nursery floor!
And in the bedroom, by the bed,
More books were waiting to be read!
Such wondrous, fine, fantastic tales
Of dragons, gypsies, queens, and whales
And treasure isles, and distant shores
Where smugglers rowed with muffled oars,
And pirates wearing purple pants,
And sailing ships and elephants,
And cannibals crouching 'round the pot,
Stirring away at something hot.
(It smells so good, what can it be?
Good gracious, it's Penelope.)
The younger ones had Beatrix Potter
With Mr. Tod, the dirty rotter,
And Squirrel Nutkin, Pigling Bland,
And Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle and-
Just How The Camel Got His Hump,
And How the Monkey Lost His Rump,
And Mr. Toad, and bless my soul,
There's Mr. Rat and Mr. Mole-
Oh, books, what books they used to know,
Those children living long ago!
So please, oh please, we beg, we pray,
Go throw your TV set away,
And in its place you can install
A lovely bookshelf on the wall.
Then fill the shelves with lots of books,
Ignoring all the dirty looks,
The screams and yells, the bites and kicks,
And children hitting you with sticks-
Fear not, because we promise you
That, in about a week or two
Of having nothing else to do,
They'll now begin to feel the need
Of having something good to read.
And once they start -- oh boy, oh boy!
You watch the slowly growing joy
That fills their hearts. They'll grow so keen
They'll wonder what they'd ever seen
In that ridiculous machine,
That nauseating, foul, unclean,
Repulsive television screen!
And later, each and every kid
Will love you more for what you did.”

Daffodilsandtuplips · 28/04/2023 03:30

My parents got a TV in 1953 in time for the late Queens Coronation, I was five. Little black and white telly housed in a walnut veneer cabinet with doors on. I don’t remember it being on during the day, if it was turned on before broadcasting started at 7.00pm all you saw was the test card. I think broadcasting stopped at 11.00pm.
I was younger than my siblings and cousins by a decade. I read a lot, my dad taught me to read before I started school. I remember being with mum a lot, I played while she cooked, cleaned etc. if she was cooking she’d give me some left over dough to roll out and cut out, stick currants in for eyes and make ‘biscuits’. If she was cleaning I ‘dusted’, If she was seeing she gave me scraps of fabric to make dolls clothes with. I had a little toy sewing machine.
Saturdsy morning cinema was the only morning screen time for me. I was dropped off at the cinema while mum did her shopping.

Tinybrother · 28/04/2023 05:58

EveryWitchWaybutLoose · 28/04/2023 02:02

Gosh @someladdersandsnakes theres a lack of imagination in your opening post. I grew up before screens and so did most of the DC in the next generation of my family.

we read books, or were read to, or read to DC

we painted, as DC and with DC

we played with toys

we went outside and on “adventures”

we” helped” or were “helped” with cooking & other household chores and things like watering the garden etc.

Of course, all of this requires us as parents to put down our own screens, read, paint, see - whatever. And some imagination. But I have wonderful memories of lying on the floor with a 2 year old, driving toy trucks and drawing bulldozers!

Hmm I don’t think you read the OP properly, your judgement got in the way

Tinybrother · 28/04/2023 06:01

The OP wasn’t asking for a list of basic things to do with her children because she never turns the TV off

Girasoli · 28/04/2023 07:00

I was born in the 1960s. We watched tv every single morning before school.

My dad was born in the 1960s, and when his family bought a TV it was the first TV in the village!

My dad and his brothers spent most of the day outside/in the woods with a bunch of other kids. He had one cousin who was in poor health so he had to stay inside and play lego - my dad used to stay with him often to keep him company.

In the winter my gran taught all three boys how to knit their own socks. They also used to do a lot of big puzzles.

Piglet89 · 28/04/2023 07:43

We don’t have a television so, when he returns from nursery, my son makes little tapestries, uses his potter’s wheel to make bowls or plays with his wooden toys.*

*LIES. He’s always to be found at 1830 of an evening zoned out in front of the Paw Patrol/Bob the Builder (only the new ITV version these days)

Blamethecat57 · 28/04/2023 08:30

Born in the early 70's.
I read a lot.
Played with my Sindy dolls,made clothes out of toilet paper for them.
Spent a lot of time pretending to be a horse in the garden. Walked the dog for hours.
By the time I was 10, there was a lot more TV aimed at my age group.

I don't see it as a golden age.

My kids get lots of time away from screens. Especially in the evenings. They read. When younger (teens now) they messed about with Lego and character toys.
They play in the garden.
But they have more of an idea of the world they are growing up in. Not in a bad way. They know about different people to them. Race, disability, amount of money.
I had no exposure to anyone different to me as I lived in the middle of nowhere.

The internet,when used carefully is a great resource.

Daffodilsandtuplips · 28/04/2023 18:15

Watch With Mother was only on for fifteen minutes a day, It started in 1954 and ran for five years. It was on at around 4.00pm.
ITV began showing Emmerdale Farm in the afternoon in about 1972, I know it was on when I got home from college at 4.30pm.

Leggingslife · 28/04/2023 18:18

Sports
Arts
Clubs
Play an instrument
Read
Play outside
Make things
Cook or bake

Grumpafrump · 28/04/2023 20:19

We got into the habit of ’no screens on school days’ about two years ago, and our household is definitely happier and more relaxed for it. It was painful at first, especially for me, because I had to be really firm in holding the line when I was tired and could have really used a bit of peace. After about two weeks, though, they settled into it and started just finding other things to do like drawing, building with Lego, working on their trampoline or gymnastics skills together, etc. They sleep better, are more even tempered, it’s less of a battle to get them to do their homework, and we don’t have the attitude issues we used to have when screens would go off.

EsmeSusanOgg · 28/04/2023 20:26

According to my dad (born in the 1940s, older boomer). There was 'Listen with mother' and various others child friendly radio shows. As a slightly older child, he would also try and teach his budgerigar to talk. And a lot of worrying tales about playing at an old quarry... Often with make-shift fireworks and explosives with his friends and older brother.

IAmTheWalrus85 · 28/04/2023 20:33

Wednesdaysotherchild · 26/04/2023 21:50

I grew up without any TV (I read A LOT) and I still have ADHD! It’s a genetic neurodevelopmental disorder…

Yes, I also grew up without a TV in the house and have ADHD and can’t visualise things in my mind (it’s called aphantasia).

To be honest I think the complete lack of screen time plus being an only child made my ADHD symptoms worse.

Greenpin · 28/04/2023 21:03

Born in the 1960s. I had no pre school experience ar all. I have vague memories of playing under the dining room table and dressing up. We watched Watch with Mother after lunch and then were nearly always taken for a walk. Bed time was a strict routine. We were read to and there was absolutely no tolerance of us getting out of bed after that.
Once I learnt to read I always had my head in a book. The joy of finding a Famous Five or Mallory Towers in the school library used to make my week. Otherwise we were outside playing two ball ,skipping or on those awful 60s roller skates.

AmyDudley · 28/04/2023 21:27

I was born in the 1960s. We watched tv every single morning before school. I don't know when this mythical before tv age was but it's soon not going to be in living memory.

I was born in 1959, only one family in our village had a TV - we certainly didn't.
We played outside a lot, read books, listened to the radio or the record player, drew and painted, played board games and cards, beat each other up, picked blackberries,gooseberries,apples etc and helped mum prepare them, did chores, made up lots of games, made clothes for our teddies, built things with construction kits, made up 'shows' and forced our parent to watch them, played with friends or had friends round our house., rode the donkey in a nearby field. I don't remember ever being bored, I remember feeling that weekends and holidays weren't long enough for me to do all the things I wanted to. I don't think I'd have had the time to watch TV.

My XH grew up with a TV and as an adult he wanted it on continuously couldn't seem to function without it on in the background. he was very much a person who needed to be entertained rather than making his own entertainment. whether that was his TV upbringing or just his personality I don't know.
I'm pretty selective about TV now I don't watch every night, I maybe watch 2/3 hours at the weekend, I choose programmes I want to see, then it goes off but that's just my choice. I don't think TV is bad by any means, it great entertainment for many people, but having it on all the time can get a bit mindless.

GlitterNails · 29/04/2023 01:53

My Grandad who was born in the early 1920s started work at aged 7 - getting up at dawn to take milk around the village, and they were very heavy.

I believe he was very much expected to entertain himself as a younger child.

Tinybrother · 29/04/2023 06:26

Greenpin · 28/04/2023 21:03

Born in the 1960s. I had no pre school experience ar all. I have vague memories of playing under the dining room table and dressing up. We watched Watch with Mother after lunch and then were nearly always taken for a walk. Bed time was a strict routine. We were read to and there was absolutely no tolerance of us getting out of bed after that.
Once I learnt to read I always had my head in a book. The joy of finding a Famous Five or Mallory Towers in the school library used to make my week. Otherwise we were outside playing two ball ,skipping or on those awful 60s roller skates.

This thread is hilarious for people getting out their little digs about what they imagine current parents are doing that have little relevance to the OP Grin

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