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Husband sent cringy email to recruiter. If you’re a recruiter would this put you off?

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Winterleaves1 · 25/04/2023 17:20

My husband is a qualified doctor but not eligible to work in the U.K. at the moment as he has exams to complete specific to the U.K.
While he’s studying for his exams I work in clinical trials and found a job that would be perfect for him. He’s Indian and has good English but doesn’t know how to word job applications so I helped him with the application. It took two hours as it was really long and I wanted to make sure it was spot on. I submitted the application for him. I have no connection with the employer at all. I just work in a similar field.
He came back to me and said the job application has an email for an informal chat or to ask any questions. He said he would email to introduce himself and let the manager know he is interested in the position.
Now I know in some countries this may be seen as proactive and increase your chances but I know from my managers opinion it’s been seen as annoying and socially awkward. It has definitely put them off and generally made them think the applicant didn’t understand British culture and wouldn’t fit in well within the team. Bit harsh but I’m just going by what their reaction has been when someone has done this.
They’ve also said the email should only be used for questions as the managers are busy and may have many applications where they are the manager and need their inbox clear. It’s also just not a ‘done thing’ here. I explained all this to him and told him it could negatively affect his chances of getting the job.
Well today I’m reading emails on our joint email account and he’s sent this email
‘Dear miss xxxxx,
i am writing to let you know I am very interested in your position and have completed the application. I think my skills and experience matches job well. Please consider my application’.
I know that this manager is married but no title was given so ‘miss’ was inappropriate. Also his grammar and English wasn’t the best in the email.

I’m really annoyed because the application was really strong and while he may not have got an interview I’d have at least felt that we’d given it our best shot. I feel this cringy email has really ruined his chance at an interview and will be viewed negatively.
If it was just this one application I could forget about it but it seems that he refuses to take my advice and I am sure he will continue sending an email to managers for all jobs he applies for moving forwards.
I know I sound really mean. I promise I’m not, just trying to help him as o know he wants to be in work.
So AIBU to think this email has affected his chances? If you are responsible for recruiting would this put you off? I’m hoping I’m overthinking.

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Vinomummyinlockdown · 27/04/2023 09:50

Ex recruiter here - 15 years experience in finance recruitment in London and internationally. I’ve worked in house for blue chip companies and for large recruitment agencies … I would receive 10 plus emails like this a day - mainly from India where it did seem to be the done thing. Sometimes multiple emails from the same candidate. This was quite frustrating to be honest and added nothing to their application. Hiring managers were not keen to have inboxes blocked by emails like this. Maybe the NHS is different. I would encourage your husband to follow whatever process is advertised as it shows respect for the process. Best wishes to you both.

threatmatrix · 27/04/2023 11:16

He has totally disregarded your advice which I would have found very disrespectful.

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Bouledeneige · 27/04/2023 19:11

I don't think it really matters that he sent it. Sure the English reveals he's not a native English speaker but around 15 percent of staff in the NHS are originally from overseas. But I don't think the email will be linked to the application. His application will be assessed on its own merits.

littlefirecar · 27/04/2023 20:14

ConstanceContraire · 26/04/2023 22:02

He's not eligible to work as a doctor. Presumably he doesn't need sponsorship or else he wouldn't be in the UK unemployed as the only way to do that is to be a student or already have a sponsored job.,

In the OP it doesn't say if he's currently in the UK and if you are in the UK on a student / post graduation you can work visa free but only for a set amount of time so most still need sponsorship. He could also be here on a LT visit visa, be in the process of applying for permanent residency based on his marriage etc. In fact there are plenty of reasons why someone in the UK would need sponsorship.

Like I said I work in hiring AND have a partner who's in a similar position work wise so please trust me when I say I know far too much about visas and work rights here 😅

DunePeyton · 30/04/2023 00:56

You seem very disparaging to him - like you just want him to be earning you a big wedge already.

Saschka · 30/04/2023 01:43

sunshinemode · 26/04/2023 20:08

My partner is a doctor in the NHS and when they are recruiting they would expect someone to make contact and would look poorly on not making contact

Depends on what level - consultant, yes definitely make contact (probably 6-8 applicants per post). But I’d expect that contact to say more that “I’ve applied for this post, please interview me”.

Junior doctor - we had 450 applicants for one post in our last recruitment round. All international, mostly wildly unsuitable. It was painful enough trawling through the applications, without my inbox being spammed as well.

Stewball01 · 15/05/2023 00:40

@AliceOlive

What's the fucking connection??? 🤷‍♀️

AliceOlive · 15/05/2023 00:53

Stewball01 · 15/05/2023 00:40

@AliceOlive

What's the fucking connection??? 🤷‍♀️

No clue what you are asking about. Can you quote it? It must be quite old at this point. 🤣

Winterleaves1 · 04/06/2023 10:01

He got the job. 😊
Starts 22nd June.

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Shoelacesundone · 04/06/2023 10:03

Oh amazing!!!

ShowUs · 04/06/2023 10:12

Great update OP!!

I’m really pleased for him 😁

Winterleaves1 · 04/06/2023 10:33

ShowUs · 04/06/2023 10:12

Great update OP!!

I’m really pleased for him 😁

I still don’t think I was unreasonable though. That email still makes me cringe 😂

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JenWillsiam · 04/06/2023 11:01

Winterleaves1 · 04/06/2023 10:33

I still don’t think I was unreasonable though. That email still makes me cringe 😂

I agree!

SallyWD · 04/06/2023 11:19

Well I thought his email was time and I'm glad he got the job!

Winterleaves1 · 04/06/2023 11:34

Haha I can’t actually believe how many responses this got 😂

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Cantstandbullshitanymore · 04/06/2023 12:25

Winterleaves1 · 04/06/2023 10:33

I still don’t think I was unreasonable though. That email still makes me cringe 😂

Nice congrats. I’m sure he will start making adjustments as he gets more familiar with the way things work in the UK.

JaneFondue · 04/06/2023 13:09

As I thought he would. Well done to him.

Winterleaves1 · 04/06/2023 13:56

Cantstandbullshitanymore · 04/06/2023 12:25

Nice congrats. I’m sure he will start making adjustments as he gets more familiar with the way things work in the UK.

With the chance of sounding really patronising it’s actually incredible how much he’s learnt in the last few weeks.

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