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Is it a sin to cut down a tree?

132 replies

Mamabear04 · 25/04/2023 15:43

I have a very big eucalyptus tree in my back garden, it's about 60ft tall! We moved into our house last year and I've always loved the tree but lately it's been dropping branches. The branches are really heavy and I'm worried one of them falls on my kids and hurts them. Ontop of that I have a small garden room underneath it and I'm worried it could damage it (I use it as an office space). I just had a quote from a guy who says it will cost £750 to get the tree cut back and into order then it will need maintained regularly. He also said he can chop it down completely for £950 and cut off the VAT. I'm in 2 minds as to what to do. Here are my thoughts on cutting it down;

Pro's
Safe for children
Won't damage the garden room
Will be financially beneficial in the long run
Won't be a risk to property and neighbours property if there is a big storm/high winds

Con's
It feels like a sin to cut down such an old tree
It will be home to wildlife and I'll be taking away their home
It offers some privacy to our property

OP posts:
Youheshetheysaid · 25/04/2023 15:43

Whatever you do, have a chat with neighbours first

Mamabear04 · 25/04/2023 15:44

@Youheshetheysaid do you think they would be annoyed?

OP posts:
showmethegin · 25/04/2023 15:46

Youheshetheysaid · 25/04/2023 15:43

Whatever you do, have a chat with neighbours first

Genuine question, can I ask why? It's your property and you need to do what's best for you. We chopped a tree down in our garden when we moved in (as much as I hated to do so!) but the whole patio was in darkness all day, as was the back of the house

AuntieMarys · 25/04/2023 15:47

We got rid of a eucalyptus when we moved it. It was far too close to the house.

DorritLittle · 25/04/2023 15:48

There is a very tall Eucalyptus tree next to my DM’s house. She thinks it should come down as it’s got too tall and could fall in a storm. She is very pro trees usually - and catholic so I am guessing it isn’t a sin 😉

Mamabear04 · 25/04/2023 15:48

Also another con - bird shit all over the garden. Not good for small children!

OP posts:
Tothepoint99 · 25/04/2023 15:48

showmethegin · 25/04/2023 15:46

Genuine question, can I ask why? It's your property and you need to do what's best for you. We chopped a tree down in our garden when we moved in (as much as I hated to do so!) but the whole patio was in darkness all day, as was the back of the house

Because at 60ft tall, it'll be offering a degree of amenity value to the neighbours and within the wider area so it's courteous to let them know they're about to lose it.

GoodChat · 25/04/2023 15:49

If it's close to your house get it cut down for safety purposes. You might find your home insurance won't cover you if the tree isn't properly maintained and it damages the property.

IClaudine · 25/04/2023 15:49

I love trees, but sometimes they are just on the wrong place. I would consider chopping and then replacing it with something more suitable. If you do decide to chop, wait until nesting season is over.

Dotjones · 25/04/2023 15:49

Have you checked whether there's a tree preservation order? The person chopping it down should have checked but some are less reputable than others. You can get in a lot of trouble if there is a TPO, the fines are huge.

helpfulperson · 25/04/2023 15:50

I would get another couple of quotes. To me that sounds suspiciously cheap. One of the issues with getting rid if a tree is the potential for it affecting the water table and potentially causing subsidence. No idea if eucalyptus comes into this category but I'd want to be very sure that anyone doing work knew what they were doing.

Youheshetheysaid · 25/04/2023 15:50

Mamabear04 · 25/04/2023 15:44

@Youheshetheysaid do you think they would be annoyed?

Absolutely no idea! They could be relieved or they could love

either way - it’s neighbourly courtesy in my opinion.

DorritLittle · 25/04/2023 15:51

You should check with the council whether it has a Tree Preservation Order though. I doubt your eucalyptus tree will have one but you never know.

corlan · 25/04/2023 15:51

Your tree may not be that old. Eucalyptus grows very big, very quickly. Not sure how good they are for wildlife either unless you have some resident koalas 😁
You can cut it down and replace it with a smaller, native tree that will be much better for wildlife.

GoodChat · 25/04/2023 15:52

DorritLittle · 25/04/2023 15:51

You should check with the council whether it has a Tree Preservation Order though. I doubt your eucalyptus tree will have one but you never know.

She'd have all that information from the house purchase if there was one

MoleAtTheCounter · 25/04/2023 15:54

This is my field of expertise (I work in forestry regulation). It is not an old tree: Eucalyptus has phenomenal growth rates. They can take up large volumes of water; if you have clay soils your foundations may be at risk. They are highly flammable and can burn from, say, a cigarette in the leaf litter. Not for planting near houses imho.

piedbeauty · 25/04/2023 15:54

It's bird nesting season. Wait until after August, or be absolutely sure that there are no birds nesting in the tree: see www.rspb.org.uk/about-the-rspb/about-us/media-centre/press-releases/tree-and-hedge-removal/

Mamabear04 · 25/04/2023 15:55

helpfulperson · 25/04/2023 15:50

I would get another couple of quotes. To me that sounds suspiciously cheap. One of the issues with getting rid if a tree is the potential for it affecting the water table and potentially causing subsidence. No idea if eucalyptus comes into this category but I'd want to be very sure that anyone doing work knew what they were doing.

Does anyone know how to check if it will cause subsidence? My Dad worked as an architectural technician and supervised lots of builds etc. As soon as he saw it he said he thought it would be a good idea to cut it down...

OP posts:
helpfulperson · 25/04/2023 15:57

A reputable tree surgeon will be able to tell you.

Youheshetheysaid · 25/04/2023 15:57

Surveyor OP with subsidence specialism

MandyMotherOfBrian · 25/04/2023 15:57

He also said he can chop it down completely for £950 and cut off the VAT
Is he a VAT registered business or not? Because if he is suggesting he will do it for less VAT for cash in hand, it's tax dodging.

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 25/04/2023 16:00

I found this passage which I think is relevant

"And the Lord sayeth unto them "Lest none of you cut down a tree or bush. I tell you now any person who destroys a tree, destroys me. Unless there is a danger the tree should fall unto a child or garden room, in which case go ahead". And the crowd were amazed and went back to their homes in wonder."

LadyGardenersQuestionTime · 25/04/2023 16:00

What @MoleAtTheCounter said. Overgrown eucalyptus is a menace - native to Australia, they grow absolutely massive over here if let loose. I'd get rid and replace it with something a bit more in keeping. (Also agree under £1000 sounds a bit cheap - I'm assuming this won't include root removal, and I'd worry the damn thing would resprout from the roots. But at least then you could keep it under control).

Namechange666 · 25/04/2023 16:01

Can't you just get it pointed instead of cutting it down? We need trees for pollution and oxygen.

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