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Is it a sin to cut down a tree?

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Mamabear04 · 25/04/2023 15:43

I have a very big eucalyptus tree in my back garden, it's about 60ft tall! We moved into our house last year and I've always loved the tree but lately it's been dropping branches. The branches are really heavy and I'm worried one of them falls on my kids and hurts them. Ontop of that I have a small garden room underneath it and I'm worried it could damage it (I use it as an office space). I just had a quote from a guy who says it will cost £750 to get the tree cut back and into order then it will need maintained regularly. He also said he can chop it down completely for £950 and cut off the VAT. I'm in 2 minds as to what to do. Here are my thoughts on cutting it down;

Pro's
Safe for children
Won't damage the garden room
Will be financially beneficial in the long run
Won't be a risk to property and neighbours property if there is a big storm/high winds

Con's
It feels like a sin to cut down such an old tree
It will be home to wildlife and I'll be taking away their home
It offers some privacy to our property

OP posts:
ErrolTheDragon · 25/04/2023 19:39

Not willing to comment on the quotes you have received, but since this work would require a 'climber' to carry out safely and qualified 'climbers' do not come cheap (their personal and public insurance liability premiums are horrendous!), not outside the ball park

I'm trying to remember how the eucalyptus near us were felled - they were so tall and gangly I'm not sure if they could be climbed. I think they had to chop them down from the base and ensure they fell the right way. Could be tricky in a garden, and all the more reason to deal with it before it gets any bigger.

hereiamagainn · 25/04/2023 20:10

It’s not protected is it? There’s a massive redwood near where I live and nobody’s allowed to cut it down.

Whatevergetsyouthroughthenight · 25/04/2023 20:14

It doesn’t sound too cheap to me, I had to have a mature Ash tree cut down (ash dieback) and it was £600. Proper tree surgeon.

maras2 · 25/04/2023 20:21

Yes

EmmaGrundyForPM · 26/04/2023 03:03

I'm reading this with interest as we've just moved into a house with a massive Eucalyptus tree at thd bottom.of the garden. It's nowhere near our house but it's incredibly close to the house behind - 20 feet I think as their garden is minute. The house behind was only built two years ago so the developer knew it was there when the house was built.

givemecoffeenow · 26/04/2023 03:09

It’s a shame to cut down any tree, I wouldn’t unless absolutely necessary 🤷🏼‍♀️

AppallinglyReheated · 26/04/2023 03:20

I would plan on cutting it down once bird nesting season is over.

Take into account it may affect foundations, and it will probably mean that area of your garden is now much wetter so plan for those costs too.

I murdered two massive leylandii in the garden of my old home as they cut out so much light... and then found that once they weren't slurping up the water, my garden was a fucking bog! That winter thanks to water and dogs bouncing around out there, I had a foot of black mud... digging a big soakaway drain was so much fun (and we did it all ourselves as zero money for anything but the gravel!)

NewspaperTaxis · 26/04/2023 04:08

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 25/04/2023 16:00

I found this passage which I think is relevant

"And the Lord sayeth unto them "Lest none of you cut down a tree or bush. I tell you now any person who destroys a tree, destroys me. Unless there is a danger the tree should fall unto a child or garden room, in which case go ahead". And the crowd were amazed and went back to their homes in wonder."

Yeah, but didn't Jesus bump off a fig tree at one point?

Roarroar2001 · 26/04/2023 06:43

I love Eucalyptus, put grown in the wrong place they are a pain in the….
They do grow really quickly, if you do have it reduced, you will need to do this every 5 or so years. If you do not want this cost every 5 years but feel bad, remove and replant with something more manageable.
You don’t need to notify neighbours at all, it’s your tree.
Your tree surgeon should check for any TPOs or if you are in a Conservation area. But it is really easy to do yourself should you wish. Just call the planning department at your council and ask for a TPOand conservation area check done, all they will need is your address. If it is covered by either, you will need to submit applications, but your tree surgeon should do this for you.
You do not need a felling licence. You also do not need to wait until nesting bird season ends, As long as no birds are nesting in the tree. If they come across any as they work, they should stop and not continue until the bird has finished nesting (it is illegal to disturb nesting birds during the nesting season).
Price seems reasonable (price would indicate it will take them a day), dependant on where you are in the country. Just ask for a written quotation and ask to see their insurance certificate.
I own a tree surgery company 👍

Poppyblush · 26/04/2023 06:48

Get done more quotes

Poppyblush · 26/04/2023 06:49
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WhatALightbulbMoment · 26/04/2023 06:54

Less than 1k to get a huge tree cut down? That doesn't sound right. I had a tree cut down that was about 40ft high, and it cost over 2k (it was in a difficult position right next to the house, but even if it had been in a different position it wouldn't have cost just £950)! I'd definitely get another quote.

Uokhon · 26/04/2023 06:59

Cut it down and plant something small, manageable and native - which Eucalyptus aren’t.

you quote sounds reasonable. We were quoted £2k for a conifer half the size. Still get a couple more though.

you’ll be left with a stump that will need grinding out. What about keeping the stump about 6ft tall and having it carved?they can look cool.

flymeawaytothemilkyway22 · 26/04/2023 07:01

piedbeauty · 25/04/2023 15:54

It's bird nesting season. Wait until after August, or be absolutely sure that there are no birds nesting in the tree: see www.rspb.org.uk/about-the-rspb/about-us/media-centre/press-releases/tree-and-hedge-removal/

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flymeawaytothemilkyway22 · 26/04/2023 07:02

Hi op as another poster has mentioned , it is. It's nesting season . So if you cut down the tree and fledglings will die . Please wait another few months until you cut it down so the birds can then find another home and nesting area x

flymeawaytothemilkyway22 · 26/04/2023 07:03

Also I always think it's horrible to cut trees down . I think all trees are living things and without them we would be screwed . I would go for just cutting it back and maintaining it . But at the end of the day it's in your property and it's your choice x

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 26/04/2023 07:17

Quote doesn’t seem unlikely.
Our tree surgeon is good value and we paid £570 recently for a big conifer including chipping and stump grinding.
Cutting down trees is not morally wrong. It’s part of responsibly managing your environment. Do it thoughtfully and replace it appropriately.

HelpMeGetThrough · 26/04/2023 07:24

No, it isn't a sin. If your life becomes easier with it gone, I'd get rid of it.

Best thing we ever did was rip out the massive hedge we had. Life is easier. The other one will be going soon.

If the tree is on your property, you don't need to "consult" the neighbours, it's none of their business.

PleaseJustText · 26/04/2023 07:41

I love trees and intend to plant several trees in our next garden but I'd get rid of the eucalyptus if I were in your shoes. It only works well in a garden if you cut it back to the ground every year or buy a dwarf version. I have France Bleu which grows to a max of 3 m.

Alexandra2001 · 26/04/2023 07:50

You need an arborists report not a tree surgeon, they are climbers and want the work... your money.

Dependent on that, you could have dead branches removed, pollard it or even felled.

I relied on a tree surgeon who said a mature ash had Die Back, 30m tall, 2 stems, after felling the first stem, i saw there was no die back, the centre of the trunk was fine, so i got them to leave the rest, we had an unusual spring summer last year and trees have been shedding leaves v early, hence the signs of "ash die back" which isn't.

Youheshetheysaid · 26/04/2023 07:55

aberlot · 25/04/2023 17:50

I had a big tree cut down earlier this year. Did I fuck discuss it with my neighbour. I had it taken down because it was causing me problems and next doors opinion would have been completely irrelevant.

these people are neighbours and out of common courtesy I would want to go around and give them heads up that substantial work was shortly to commence on the tree

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 26/04/2023 08:56

FOJN · 25/04/2023 17:26

If the tree has a TPO on it then your solicitor should have advised you of that fact during the purchase process.

Do not talk to your neighbour about it. It's remarkable how attached people can become to things that grow in other people's garden and surprising about how entitled they feel to have a say in how you maintain your own garden. If your neighbour has objections to the tree being removed you could find they try to get a TPO put in it to stop you and then you are stuck with it and with having to get permission every time it needs cutting back. Do not consult your neighbour, it's your garden and none of their business.

Long term it will be cheaper and safer for you to get rid of it. I agree with PP about removing (at the right time of year) it and replacing it with native trees.

I agree we need trees, they are also beautiful and I'm fortunate to live in an area with lots of them (and I mean lots) but some of my neighbours have to deal with trees with TPO's and it's a nightmare for them.

This is an interesting point. I would tend to err on the side of communicating with neighbours but see your point re TPOs.
However do you think it is really likely they will be able to get a TPO put on a eucalyptus?

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 26/04/2023 08:58

NewspaperTaxis · 26/04/2023 04:08

Yeah, but didn't Jesus bump off a fig tree at one point?

Perhaps it was a threat to his garden room...

sashagabadon · 26/04/2023 09:00

I would say an ancient oak or Yew yes it is a sun but a eucalyptus not. They are massive trees often planted in stupid places where they shouldn’t be and non native.
I would get rid and plant a nice smaller tree in its place

aberlot · 26/04/2023 09:01

@Youheshetheysaid

these people are neighbours and out of common courtesy I would want to go around and give them heads up that substantial work was shortly to commence on the tree

I don't need to extend common courtesy to people who have never spoken to me for over 20 years. People who refuse to take in a parcel on the odd occasion they have been asked. People who create more drama than a drama club.

Substantial work took place on my tree, in my garden. It didn't affect them.

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