Why is the UK and some of its people the way it is?

[FattyAirways]

I'm talking about every time I visit my local, deprived town centre, i'm bound to come across someone mentally unstable, youths causing issues, walking around with their hands down their trousers, talking in stupid voices like they're 'ard. It's the same when I venture out into the city centre. People have little respect for each other and the surroundings. I walked through a park and someone had ripped up the daffodils and thrown them everywhere.

There's barely a night goes past without someone drunk walking past my house shouting in the early hours and sirens blaring.

In the places I know well of on the continent, this just would not happen.

So, where is the UK going wrong?

The RNLI is a charity organisation. All rescues are by volunteers - wonderful UK people who make enormous sacrifices

There's a high level of acceptance or tolerance for public drunkenness and a model of masculinity that includes heavy drinking, wanton, random destructiveness, and casual violence. The model also expresses itself in disdain for education.

It has nothing to do with the government. This culture remains steady regardless of who is in power.

Yes and they’re an amazing bunch of people.

hasn’t stopped the current government from attacking them though has it, for the sake of whipping up division and hatred.

The propensity for theft and vandalism is peculiar to the UK in my view and has been evident during most of my 61 years here.
I hated it as a kid and I don’t like it any more now I am an old git.
Like the people who throw litter or don’t pick up their dogs shit, they are hard to find and so you can’t ask them why they do it.
It is different here - I know other countries have issues but I have lost count of the times I have marvelled at things left unattended in other Countries that would last about 5 minutes before being smashed up or stolen here.

It has nothing to do with the government

Resoectfully, I disagree. Once a government takes the stance of “everyone is a bunch of xxxxs”

Its no surprise that the people of that country then decide that everyone is a bunch of xxxxs.

I believe it does have a knock on effect.

Like I said, that’s just my opinion.

Maybe you never caught a late bus in Croydon in the mid 80s.

@Cicciabella how did you find this thread? I know it’s not as old as some zombies but always interested in how people resurrect threads that are old!

Probably the Threads Like This feature...

Low aspirations? low levels of education?

Why else are people slack-jawed whilst essential infrastructure is run into the ground and then sold off to foreign governments and corporations? Shivering in our homes and elderly with hypothermia, with a not fit for purpose energy grid because politicians won’t prioritise UK’s sustainable energy security? Shrugging off the monumental loss of money and corruption of HS2, the PPE scandal and the Post Office scandal?

Why tugging forelocks to a repulsive royal family? Why so accepting of not being able to get a dentist, crumbling schools, or average life expectancy falling?

Patting themselves on the back for throwing a can of beans into the food bank collection point and love to support ‘charity’ whilst quietly tolerating large sections of society being homeless or hungry? Voting for Brexit? Voting Tory then complaining that their children don’t have a bright future in the UK?

It's down to a lack of effective policing. Nothing more.

Why respect the law or other people when there is literally no consequences for bad/criminal behaviour.

It’s much more than policing, (although forces have been cut also). Look at the reasons behind the behaviour. It isn’t well educated, healthy citizens with good opportunities behind this is it?

No, but education isn't related to ASB.

Robust, effective policing IS the answer to this behaviour. Try shouting abuse on a street corner in Dubai, you WILL be arrested.

Rob someone on a street corner here, you most likely will get away with it.

There is also a significant number of young boys/teenagers who have absolutely zero male role models in their lives. They have, to use an old fashioned phrase (I'll wait for the offended masses to comment) learned how to be "men" from watching GRM TV and hanging out with their friendly local gang members.

This is a HUGE problem for society. Young boys/man are the ones predominantly responsible for this behaviour. Our "modern", inclusive, freshly baked, equal, non-offensive society is actually toxic for young boys/men. It is (and nobody can deny this) perfectly acceptable to casually abuse men. Comedians make jokes about how stupid and inept men are, how women rule the home, how men are just boring, dullards incapable of even looking after their own children. There was a thread on here recently about young male babysitters, virtually every comment was an accusatory diatribe about all men being predators and how none of them could be trusted around children. It was utterly depressing. Presumably most of those replying to that thread didn't have sons, because if they did then they were just accusing their own child of being a paedophile.🙄

No wonder many young men are resorting to crime, the way we treat men has to change.