Why is the UK and some of its people the way it is?

[FattyAirways]

I'm talking about every time I visit my local, deprived town centre, i'm bound to come across someone mentally unstable, youths causing issues, walking around with their hands down their trousers, talking in stupid voices like they're 'ard. It's the same when I venture out into the city centre. People have little respect for each other and the surroundings. I walked through a park and someone had ripped up the daffodils and thrown them everywhere.

There's barely a night goes past without someone drunk walking past my house shouting in the early hours and sirens blaring.

In the places I know well of on the continent, this just would not happen.

So, where is the UK going wrong?

Barely any police. You can't move for police in France and Spain by comparison.

No consequences even if there were the police to stop them (women on twitter are am easier target though), especially if they're under 16 - or under 25 in Scotland.

Poor parenting. There was a post on our local fb page last week where someone was complaining that a gang of kids were breaking down branches off trees in a small park. There were so many responses from parents saying the kids were just having harmless fun, why aren't kids allowed to play anymore etc. It's easy to see why things escalate when parents turn a blind eye to this sort of stuff. Parents don't care so the kids don't care.
I also think there are a lot of dishonest people generally and their kids then accept this as normal. Benefit cheating, doing cash in hand work, handling stolen goods, it's all just seen as normal, so kids grow up thinking it's normal as they've never seen anything else. Drug use has become normalised, there is the smell of cannabis everywhere you go, people just walk round the streets smoking it like cigarettes. Even using harder drugs are just seen as normal to some extent. I do also think that a lot of addiction is caused by childhood trauma or some other kind of life trauma, people just don't get the help they need early enough.

Inequality
we have a government who have pursued austerity for over a decade.
You can blame parenting, but many parents are struggling to put food on the table multiple jobs so their not fully present for their kids.
there's cuts to schools, youth services.
high rents on high streets mean many shops are just not taking the right footfall, plus we all online shop reducing demand.
as well as everyones wage checks are going to private landlords or paying expensive mortgages a lot of people don't have the money to be out buying things to boost the economy. Hence we see a high street in decline.

The UK has a high level of inequality - a rich country but the wealth is in the hands of very few.

All of this but tbh: and I'm incredibly depressed about the state of the UK at the moment but this is by no means unique to this country. There are areas like this in every country in the world.

Because of the UKs dependency culture, which supports & perpetuates a feckless, feral underclass with no respect for anyone or anything. They live parasitic lives, funded by state handouts which reward idleness and spurious claims of illness & disability and incentivise them to reproduce themselves, thereby continuing the cycle.
A society gets the amount of criminality & welfare dependency that it is prepared to tolerate & pay for. Britain is prepared to pay for more of it than other countries.

I was in a city centre late last night, and saw many of the people who were mentioned in your post. I think there are many factors involved, but many are affected by their childhood. At midnight, there was a gang of kids roaming the centre, and they all looked 12-16. Bored, no money prompting them to hang around in a cold, rain pouring, all sharing one cigarette and a potentially dangerous urban area with lots of drunks falling out of clubs and pubs. I wouldn't have my teens out at this time, or in this location. It seems sad that no one cares about these kids. This is a multi-generation problem, and one that requires people to fight really hard to escape the legacy. These people are a product of their life experience a lot of the time, and you can trace their dysfunction back in their elders patterns of behaviour. This is what I found years ago working in the social work sector. It drove me to retrain as I felt unhappy to be filing paperwork on clients that actually needed help to lift themselves out of poverty. On a side note, I don't think the UK attitude to alcohol helps. In certain parts of Europe, mindless drinking to oblivion would be frowned upon. So many young people out last night who were clearly very drunk by mid-evening. Drunk to the point of being a risk to themselves and others. Marketing, peer pressure, lack of different forms of entertainment etc all contribute to the great weekend booze up culture.

For those saying it happens in other countries, it doesn't tend to be foreign people you see getting blind drunk on holiday.

Yes let's get rid of all the plebs so that we can pretend that everything is all lovely and perfect for everyone. 🙄

Op...You need to better yourself and move to somewhere naicer

Illegal drug use does not help

Around here in addition to the OP's list, we have young males racing about in illegally modified cars. An illegal regular road race meeting is occurring near us. The Police must be incredibly overstretched or else have other priorities as despite it being regularly reported to them, it's being ignored. A woman who lives in the only house that's close by asked the racers to stop it and was threatened.

There is zero enforcement of most things in most places so how good things are depends on how many thugs you have.

I’ll get flamed, but there’s no shame. Everything is blamed on ‘mental health’ or ‘the government’. If it’s kids or teens then ‘the school’. It used to be embarrassing to go out looking like a slob, or shout at random passers by, or have your kid smash up a bus stop. Not any more, always someone else’s fault.

I don't know why exactly, though I do think the UK is a country of excess i.e, everything is done in excess until it's horrible.

When I lived in Spain it was an absolute joy to be surrounded by normal non-aggressive people.

Society is degenerating. Parents don't parent anymore and there are no boundaries. We have too many
' vulnerable' people who live outside social norms . There are no consequences for bad behaviour and an increasing number of people who seek to excuse said bad behaviour rather than punish it .

Italy isn't like this, church and family strong. In the UK both have disintegra.
Ted

Yeah. Welcome to the UK. It's pretty grim really, even in supposedly 'nice' areas. Unless you live in the countryside in the middle of nowhere (which I would not be able to do) you have to face on a daily basis what seems like armies of abject simpletons at almost every turn. I guess move abroad is the only solution. I want to.

Are we really so much worse than the rest of Europe? I imagine 10+ years of cuts and austerity have something to do with it.

Many state secondary schools are similar to prisons now. Children are miserable, violence is common (a rape every day!!!) and they’re not even allowed to use the toilet when they need it. They don’t get taught interesting useful stuff or life skills they get french poetry and trigonometry. If they forget something they get detention. If they’re ill they get told off for being ill.

Of course by the time they turn 18 many of them don’t give a shit about others. Why should they ☹️

It all goes wrong at secondary school and it is the government’s fault.

Crap parenting is the root cause of antisocial behaviour.
And it’s getting worse, they would rather stare at their screens than deal with their brats.

In a nutshell, the current government has disassembled and attacked all respected institutions and systems for the sake of political power, and above all, their own profit.

-the judiciary
-the police
-the RNLI
-teachers
-the health service
-the BBC
-the EU (not perfect but now the enemy)

That has been the direction of travel for some years now. No other government in history has done this, to this extent.

What we are seeing is the cumulative effect of such an approach.

That’s my 2p.

Well I'm in Wracow at the moment and they have 400 brass miniture sculptures around the city and none are vandalised or ripped up and stolen I've walked within 4km of the tourist area and never seen intimidating gangs or vandalised civic amenities. The play grounds in the social housing estates aren't vandalised, the trams are clean and nobody abuses you when using them at night. Could you say the same for a city of 600k in UK.
Same in the number of Polish, Hungarian, Austraian, Lithuania, and Slovenia Cities visited in the last year. The civic pride and civility is noticeable different, even in poor areas.
French Cities and Dublin have same issues as UK cities in our experience.

British people are cunts really. Even the “nice” ones are just cunts in cardigans.

So none of you posting today noticed that there aren't a huge amount of daffodils atm.

It not being April last year 🧟‍♀️🧟‍♀️

Some say it's because there were real consequences for anti social behaviour in their very recent history and it's ingrained in them to behave. Other locals you talk to say that there is real shame if someone pulls up flowers or vandalises a swing. These societies do not have more facilities or services than UK, or more state interventions. In fact often less. What they do have are stronger family structures and that very unfashionable thing in the UK of moral judgement on behaviour and less desire to blame behaviour on anything but the individual.
Lack of personal responsibility from parenting to individual behaviour to leadership roles. How often do we hear, even on this site, I don't have to do it, it's not my responsibility, they shoukd have thought of that, etc when talking about doing something for someone else. Even family members.