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to not understand the "entertainment value" of true crime

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Nimbostratus100 · 20/04/2023 19:35

I understand the enjoyment of murder mysteries, excitement, interesting characters, mystery aspect etc.

I dont understand the "enjoyment" of "true crime" where real people have suffered and died and been bereaved. The thread about Jonbenet for example, why are people enjoying "documentaries" and feeling they can speak authoritvly about the death a poor little girl, thousands of miles away about which they in reality know nothing, but feel like they can slag of members of her family anyway?

Ive just gone onto itv player to find something to while away a few hours, and find myself being offer a whole plethera of "true crime" stuff. No thanks, what on earth is fun or relaxing being a spectator to other people's grief, pain and misery?

I just dont understand what sort of person enjoys that. I hope you will enjoy it just as much if you are ever the subject of one of these dramas.

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Hawkins003 · 20/04/2023 20:18

For me it's the forensics aspects and the psychology of the human mind

MuddlingMackem · 20/04/2023 20:27

Stroopwaffle5000 · 20/04/2023 20:00

I agree with both of your comments. The police work fascinates me and I like to see the perpetrator brought to justice, hence why I don't like the unsolved cases either. I'm also very interested in forensic psychology.

Yes, I do like the ones that explain the forensics.

A while ago I watched a very interesting documentary about the first murder investigation to successfully use DNA testing, in Leicester I believe.

I'm currently working my way through episodes of an American series about cold cases, and there have been a few so far which have been solved due to the advances in DNA technology. Some families have been waiting decades for the murders to be solved!

WhiteFire · 20/04/2023 20:28

For me too it is about the forensics behind it, especially cold cases where developments in forensics has brought the killer to justice many years later.

Conversely I also find the wrongly convicted ones also interesting, especially in America. There is an organisation called The Innocence Project, many of those wrongly convicted are from BAME communities.

Mephisneon · 20/04/2023 20:32

I'm not a big true crime fan what I do like is stuff on disasters or cults which is not dissimilar. But I chose carefully and listen to things which are non exploitative and seek to shed light on what happened. I've listened to a few true crime podcasts where they have covered wrong doings by authorities etc.

But yeah the stuff which is very gory and almost revels in the things that happened are not ok.

peechie · 20/04/2023 20:38

I watch true crime. For me, it depends on how it's told.

I recently found Emma Kenny's YouTube channel. I love the way she presents the cases. It's definitely not entertainment and she's very respectful and many of them are emotional to listen to. You can tell she does it for the 'right' reasons and not to capitalise. She's worked in related areas for years.

Some of the other true crime channels just irritate me. It's clear they want a quick buck and are jumping on the true crime bandwagon.

BlueThursday · 20/04/2023 20:41

i find British crime stories really interesting and how so many are actually linked eg the Brinks Mat robbery is linked in a way to the murder of Daniel Morgan which in turn is linked to the NoTW hacking and to the murder of Stephen Lawrence

perhaps more morbidly I’m intrigued to find a link between so many notorious killers. West, Brady, Black, Sinclair, Tobin all lived or had links to the central belt in the 60s; did their paths ever cross?

Kickingupmerrybehaviour · 20/04/2023 20:46

I find them interesting but I have stopped watching them in the last few years as they make my anxiety worse and I do think it must be horrendous for the families and possible feed the egos of the psychopaths that commit these terrible crimes.

Xrays · 20/04/2023 21:03

Kickingupmerrybehaviour · 20/04/2023 20:46

I find them interesting but I have stopped watching them in the last few years as they make my anxiety worse and I do think it must be horrendous for the families and possible feed the egos of the psychopaths that commit these terrible crimes.

I’ve learnt to be careful what I watch / read about when I’m home alone. I ended up down a bit of a rabbit hole reading about Robert Napper - Rachel Nikkels murderer- and how he used to spy on women in their homes before he attacked them and for the longest time I just used to want to keep my curtains shut incase I suddenly saw someone staring back at me. Dennis Raider (BTK) crimes also had a similar effect on me. But I think some of that also comes from being stalked as a young woman and I guess that feeling of someone watching you, being in your personal space etc never quite leaves you. Other stuff - even things just as horrible in other ways - never affects me in the same way.

TowerRaven7 · 20/04/2023 21:07

I’m a huge true crime fan for two reasons. One, I need something I don’t have to look at when I crochet. Two, I ‘watch’ it to try and learn what to do or not do to stay safe.

CheersForThatEh · 20/04/2023 21:13

If the families are part of it then they want the story told. Sometimes it's so it doesnt happen to another person and they promote their charity or raise important issues.

You can pretend ot doesnt exist but whether you hear about it or not it does happen.

Nat6999 · 20/04/2023 21:21

I like true crime, mainly I like to see how they work out the culprit & sometimes see the mistakes they make & how they rectify them.

Xrays · 20/04/2023 21:27

TowerRaven7 · 20/04/2023 21:07

I’m a huge true crime fan for two reasons. One, I need something I don’t have to look at when I crochet. Two, I ‘watch’ it to try and learn what to do or not do to stay safe.

I also crochet and totally understand what you mean!

TwoMonthsOff · 20/04/2023 21:28

MuddlingMackem · 20/04/2023 19:40

YANBU.

I like some true crime documentaries and find them interesting. But the ones I like focus on the investigation. I like to see how the police work was done and how the perpetrator was caught. I really dislike any which glamourise the crime or the perpetrator as those are so disrespectful of the victims and their family and friends.

agree and the ones where they show you how the forensics and evidence caught the perpetrator, I find true crime so interesting and always in complete admiration of the investigators making sure justice is done

Dithyramb · 20/04/2023 21:30

NumberTheory · 20/04/2023 19:59

I think fascination with true crime is more understandable than fascination with fiction tbh. If you’re interested in the human experience, motivations, emotions and, especially, the limits of social compliance, then true crime is far more interesting than fiction (which generally reflects a well-off white, male world view even, to some extent, when written by less well-off women of colour).

I’m not keen on the sensationalized true crime docs, etc. as they’re less realistic than a lot of fiction. But I think they have the same appeal as a lot of reality TV (which I also tend not to be interested in) in that they provide the significance of being about real people but also compress everything into hyper-real/contrived scenes that leave out the difficult, more nuanced bits.

Boy, are you reading the wrong fiction.

MavisBeacon1234 · 20/04/2023 21:31

SkittlingSkittles · 20/04/2023 19:37

I agree with you. I was really weirded out when I discovered some of them say “stay safe don’t get murdered!” to each other as if that’s somehow funny. Nope.

It's actually "Stay sexy and don't get murdered"

MavisBeacon1234 · 20/04/2023 21:33

Nimbostratus100 · 20/04/2023 19:35

I understand the enjoyment of murder mysteries, excitement, interesting characters, mystery aspect etc.

I dont understand the "enjoyment" of "true crime" where real people have suffered and died and been bereaved. The thread about Jonbenet for example, why are people enjoying "documentaries" and feeling they can speak authoritvly about the death a poor little girl, thousands of miles away about which they in reality know nothing, but feel like they can slag of members of her family anyway?

Ive just gone onto itv player to find something to while away a few hours, and find myself being offer a whole plethera of "true crime" stuff. No thanks, what on earth is fun or relaxing being a spectator to other people's grief, pain and misery?

I just dont understand what sort of person enjoys that. I hope you will enjoy it just as much if you are ever the subject of one of these dramas.

It's really interesting to learn a bit about what evils people can do and also get an insight to why. If I could go back I would do a degree in criminology and that would be my career.

Emigratingimmigrant · 20/04/2023 21:34

Some stories van be mind boggling with "how did police/doctors/family" miss x and y. Some if them show clearly why and it's actually good it's getting out there.

Even the Dahmer one showed many people who wouldn't normally know how shite the police was to certain people AND got reinstated after, paid AND went onto have good careers. At least one. These things still happen. Lots of peope have no idea.

Plus yes, morbid curiosity. People were fascinated by morbid things since dawn of time.

Oysterbabe · 20/04/2023 21:35

True crime is my favourite thing to watch.
I also like stuff about disasters, like Air Crash Investigations and I Shouldn't Have Survived. I can't really explain it, it's just fascinating 💁

BluebellBlueballs · 20/04/2023 21:36

I love it! Guess that makes me a weirdo.

I like true everything ( would rather read an autobiography than a novel) and crime is pretty interesting

It's a genre so I can't be the only one

JaneFondue · 20/04/2023 21:36

I am afraid I love it. Not so much the gory Dahmer type stuff but I love the ones with legal skullduggery or science. Am listening to one called Bear Brook with an absolutely amazing legal twist. ( won't spoil it.)

I am totally bored by romance and romantic films. Also action movies, superhero movies, movies with too much CGI...

mainsfed · 20/04/2023 21:40

The thread about Jonbenet for example, why are people enjoying "documentaries" and feeling they can speak authoritvly about the death a poor little girl, thousands of miles away about which they in reality know nothing, but feel like they can slag of members of her family anyway?

Because a little girl died and her killer was never brought to justice? It’s human nature to want justice for victims.

Plus her parents clearly faked her kidnapping, shame that you are more concerned about their feelings rather than the victim.

savoycabbage · 20/04/2023 21:40

I recently watched an entire trial video on Court TV. It was absolutely fascinating.

For example, witness called because they found a Target bay in a bin.
Someone from Target called to explain how their click and collect system works and what all of the details on the label mean.
Someone from Snapchat called to talk through the location data and whether the defendants phone was in target.

Annoyingwurringnoise · 20/04/2023 21:41

I agree. I also really hate those series about serial killers. They aren’t celebrities, they have murdered multiple people, people who nobody can ever name but they can always name the murderer. It disgusts me.

alabamathunderpussy · 20/04/2023 21:43

I liked trued crime and had morbid curiosity until i went through experiences that showed me first hand what actual fear and horror is. Now i never want to engage with anything that makes my brain touch on those emotions ever again. I know i am not alone in that

SunshineGeorgie · 20/04/2023 21:46

Everyone I know enjoys 24hours in police custody! Everyone!