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to be sick to death of wanky language?!

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PyongyangKipperbang · 19/04/2023 01:51

Late shift so cant sleep and this has been bugging me.

Loads of examples I am sure but the two that are currently pissing me off is "curating" and "sourcing".

When did "buy new clothes" become "curate a fresh wardrobe". I do not curate, I am not a curator. I need clothes, I buy clothes, I wear clothes. End of. Also clothes do no go off, they go out of fashion but if that is the case then you are buying the wrong clothes, timeless classics never go out of fashion. You do not need "fresh" clothes.

When did "going to do the big shop" become "sourcing ingedients". Has anyone ever said "I am going to Tesco to source our ingredients"? Have they fuck! If I am making stew or salad or lasagne or.....dog shit on toast (an option I have occassionally offered the kids when they were pissing me off about dinner options) I will go shopping and buy what I need. I do not "source" beef and vegetables, or lettuce or bloody pasta. I will concede that the dog shit may need more in the way of sourcing.

You need stuff. You buy stuff. Why the need for bullshit language to make this boring life task into an "experience".....actually that's another one, I didnt "experience" a restaurant or a stately home or whatever, I visited it.

Now I cant sleep even more because venting has made me more angry!

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Scroobydoo · 19/04/2023 09:54

I'll take that and raise you 'pre-loved'

I mainly see this from middle class mums who don't want to say 'second hand'

Starhead69 · 19/04/2023 09:55

i completely agree with you.

it’s all very pretentious.

FOAD37 · 19/04/2023 09:55

FelicityFlops · 19/04/2023 09:26

Concur? - No, you just agree
Conflate? - No, you just confuse
Opine? - No, you just give your opinion or thoughts on a matter
Purchase (verb)? No, you just buy something
And please don't get me started on tautology (for example, report back) or weird phrases like "park up", which probably came from the American via German.
However, you then get the incorrect use of disinterested, which means neutral or having no strong feelings on a subject, but is often used to mean uninterested, as in having no interest in something.

and then there's disinvited or univited (to Coronations and such...)

CoffeeCantata · 19/04/2023 09:56

waterlego · Today 09:18
Ah, I see others have already mentioned ‘speaks to’. I just instantly switch off when someone uses it.

Oh God, yes. I thought I was the only one who hated 'speaks to'. It's just wrong! I was reading some short stories recently and each one had an introduction by the editor who repeatedly said that a story 'speaks to' the experience of colonialsim, or other historical experiences. No, no, and double no! Surely it speaks of these things, if anything. I ranted to my son (a university teacher) and got put in my place. His argument was that that's just the accepted modern term...but it's stupid.

Aaarrggghhh. Don't get old - it's no fun.

BellePeppa · 19/04/2023 09:58

I haven’t come across curate so much (although it would annoy me) but saying sourcing instead of just finding or getting sounds so pretentious and unnecessary. You don’t source ingredients you go to the shops and find/get them. Unless you’re going on some kind of international gruelling trek to an obscure land to get an ingredient so rare it’s needs its own security you don’t need to use the word source. IMHO anyway.

MagpiePi · 19/04/2023 09:58

…and following on from ‘pre-loved’ items, if there is any kind of tragedy involving a lot of people, the victims are always ‘loved ones’. Some of them might have been complete bastards and their friends and family are glad they’ve died.

ssd · 19/04/2023 09:59

Agree with everything here but can i add the one seen above 'I snorted tea out my nose' or similar wanky shite

Im shouting at my phone NO YOU NEVER

Kittykatchunjy · 19/04/2023 10:00

Crazyshihtzulady · 19/04/2023 09:47

Beware, you'll have some angry bugger come along to sarcastically offer you a medal in a minute...Lol.

Reading this thread has made me realise I'm quite a chilled out person...of all the things to get angry about in society a different vocabulary is not one of them.

Human pettiness strikes again.

Well bully for you then eh

Kittykatchunjy · 19/04/2023 10:01

Weather 'event' drives me nuts. Why can't there just be a storm, or a heatwave fgs

Hubcapdiamondstarhalo · 19/04/2023 10:01

SpreadableCheeseOnEverything · 19/04/2023 08:40

Mumsnet is the home of wanky language. Lots of posts could be halved in size if posters cut out the wankiness.

Problem on here too is someone will use a phrase or word, such as 'push back' and suddenly everyone is using it to try to fit in.

Wanky language breeds wanky language

Your post made me think of the phrase 'use your words' instead of talk to, which seems to be gaining momentum here at the moment.

CoffeeCantata · 19/04/2023 10:02

However, you then get the incorrect use of disinterested, which means neutral or having no strong feelings on a subject, but is often used to mean uninterested, as in having no interest in something.

Agree. And I remember many years ago there was a controversy about whether newspapers publishing salacious gossip about public figures was 'in the public interest', which really means 'relevant or beneficial to the public', but was taken by many people (including the journalists and editors under scrutiny) to mean that the public were interested - as in, nosy and prurient. Well yes, they certainly are!

I know from personal experience that language means very little to most people but it means a lot to me. Words used correctly help us to say what we mean precisely and to be understood - we hope.

CoffeeCantata · 19/04/2023 10:03

Crazyshihtzulady · Today 09:47

Beware, you'll have some angry bugger come along to sarcastically offer you a medal in a minute...Lol.

Reading this thread has made me realise I'm quite a chilled out person...of all the things to get angry about in society a different vocabulary is not one of them.

Human pettiness strikes again.

DrFoxtrot · 19/04/2023 10:06

I've heard someone say that something 'chimes with my sustainability values' so now DP and I say this regularly for fun.

CoffeeCantata · 19/04/2023 10:06

Crazyshihtzulady · Today 09:47

Beware, you'll have some angry bugger come along to sarcastically offer you a medal in a minute...Lol.

Reading this thread has made me realise I'm quite a chilled out person...of all the things to get angry about in society a different vocabulary is not one of them.

Human pettiness strikes again.

Sorry - pressed Post too soon! Must be getting really het-up.

Oh no, Crazy - I strongly disagree. Language is very, very important and it's a mistake to underestimate its power. The words we choose carry huge value and say a lot about us and our attitudes.

CellophaneFlower · 19/04/2023 10:07

Oooh just thought of another. You win the internet. Aaaaarghhh!

CrunchyCarrot · 19/04/2023 10:08

I'm so glad you 'reached out' with your post, OP! Yes, I agree and 'reached out' currently annoys me.

CirreltheSquirrel · 19/04/2023 10:10

I'm a lawyer and cringe when someone asks me to add some verbiage into a contract. What is wrong with wording/clause or even.just "something to cover that point"?

FallopianTubeTrain · 19/04/2023 10:12

"Blooms" pisses me off

'I was gifted these beautiful blooms'

No, you were given a bunch of flowers, you utter tosspot

PlinkPlonkFizz · 19/04/2023 10:13

Beauty videos are a lexicon of unnecessary words.
"I'm going to go in with some...." - put some
"I'm going to drop some pumps of X" - put a pump of X
"Blend it out with...." - blend it with

The rage. 😡

CoffeeCantata · 19/04/2023 10:13

I'll try to make this my final rant here!

Don't many of the most annoying phrases come from psychotherapy? Things like 'a lot to unpack there', 'sharing', 'boundaries' etc? They always remind me of training courses you're sent on from work, especially in education contexts.

Does anyone remember 'I hear what you're saying'? A friend of mine was training and used this expression many times a day in everyday speech. Nothing wrong with it intrinsically, as with most of these phrases - it's just the way people over-use them. I'm guilty myself - you do then to catch these things from other people.

Blossomtoes · 19/04/2023 10:13

I’ve found my tribe. The one I hate more than any other is “He passed”. No, he didn’t, he fucking died.

the80sweregreat · 19/04/2023 10:14

I understand it doesn't hurt anyone using different language, but it just comes across as a bit pretentious sometimes.
Ds2 uses words such as ' body autonomy' and
' agency ' ( as in taking responsibility for your or someone else's actions , I think he means this anyway )
He can make one short sentence twice as long
(I call it ' word salad' lol )
It's just the environment he works in too I think , they actively encourage this way of speaking.

Crikeyalmightey · 19/04/2023 10:16

Well I love a pp's "crappage" as a description for all these stupid terms, and I'm going to use it henceforth. (sorry). 🙄

YouOKHun · 19/04/2023 10:17

LilySavage · 19/04/2023 09:16

The one that drives me mad is people using myself and yourself when they mean me and you. You just sound like an arsehole.

’I’ll send it to yourself’

FUCK OFF. What is wrong with saying you!!!!

I think misuse of the reflexive pronoun is an attempt to sound more sophisticated. It doesn’t achieve that and it doesn’t make sense - only I can send something to myself!

These threads pop up from time to time and they always contain the same offences: reach out, curate, gifting, handcrafted, pop of colour, sourced etc etc. Another one is “eclectic”. There are so many fashion and gift shops and sites who have “sourced a carefully curated collection of eclectic pieces”. In the small fashion shops near me this means a pile of very expensive shapeless linen bought by the owner at some trade fair having completely forgotten their market. The eclectic (random) pieces (clothes) that have been sourced (bought) and curated (hung on a rail) and languish there until the shop has an “event” (heavily discounted sale).

UnDruidlyWords · 19/04/2023 10:18

ridemesideway · 19/04/2023 09:36

Why does coffee have to be grabbed? That one has pissed me off for a while.

That one has been bugging me for years. I see the encouragement of people 'grabbing' things - Grab and Go! - as being the start of the downfall of society.